Hello,

I had a nice experience with my son's kindergarden group yestereday - I 
created a new interactive performance piece  for players on sliders and 
switches.  Soundwise it was based almost entirey on scanned synthesis (+ some 
resonant filters).

The sound was synthesized in real time and it was influenced by the actions of 
the children and computer itself - the pitch changes reflect the temperature 
changes of the computer's CPU, read at moments of certain switch combinations. 
Thus the computer performed along the children.
The controlling program  was written in C++ and Qt, using Csound API. 
The idea was to give children an experience that music can be also sound, not 
just only melody or beat...
It was great fun!
 A video about it is up on https://vimeo.com/43235666
If you have more specific questions, please let me know!

greetings,
tarmo

Loving it -- school was not that much fun in my day!
==John ff

> Hello,
>
> I had a nice experience with my son's kindergarden group yestereday - I
> created a new interactive performance piece  for players on sliders and
> switches.  Soundwise it was based almost entirey on scanned synthesis (+
> some
> resonant filters).
>
> The sound was synthesized in real time and it was influenced by the
> actions of
> the children and computer itself - the pitch changes reflect the
> temperature
> changes of the computer's CPU, read at moments of certain switch
> combinations.
> Thus the computer performed along the children.
> The controlling program  was written in C++ and Qt, using Csound API.
> The idea was to give children an experience that music can be also sound,
> not
> just only melody or beat...
> It was great fun!
>  A video about it is up on https://vimeo.com/43235666
> If you have more specific questions, please let me know!
>
> greetings,
> tarmo
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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> csound"
>
>
>
>

Hi Tarmo,

I smiled so much watching this: a really beautiful film and wondrous
sound world.  I am so inspired: thank you!

steven

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Tarmo Johannes
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had a nice experience with my son's kindergarden group yestereday - I
> created a new interactive performance piece  for players on sliders and
> switches.  Soundwise it was based almost entirey on scanned synthesis (+ some
> resonant filters).
>
> The sound was synthesized in real time and it was influenced by the actions of
> the children and computer itself - the pitch changes reflect the temperature
> changes of the computer's CPU, read at moments of certain switch combinations.
> Thus the computer performed along the children.
> The controlling program  was written in C++ and Qt, using Csound API.
> The idea was to give children an experience that music can be also sound, not
> just only melody or beat...
> It was great fun!
>  A video about it is up on https://vimeo.com/43235666
> If you have more specific questions, please let me know!
>
> greetings,
> tarmo
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>

On 6/1/2012 9:48 AM, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had a nice experience with my son's kindergarden group yestereday - I
> created a new interactive performance piece  for players on sliders and
> switches.  Soundwise it was based almost entirey on scanned synthesis (+ some
> resonant filters).
>
> The sound was synthesized in real time and it was influenced by the actions of
> the children and computer itself - the pitch changes reflect the temperature
> changes of the computer's CPU, read at moments of certain switch combinations.
> Thus the computer performed along the children.
> The controlling program  was written in C++ and Qt, using Csound API.
> The idea was to give children an experience that music can be also sound, not
> just only melody or beat...
> It was great fun!
>   A video about it is up on https://vimeo.com/43235666
> If you have more specific questions, please let me know!
>
> greetings,
> tarmo
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>              https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
great! What are the chlidren using as controllers? Would you mind 
telling how the interaction was set up, and how the children reacted? 
 From the video it is not so clear.

I remember meeting you and your son at the Ferienkurse in Darmstadt some 
years ago, nice to see you here!

best,
Eduardo Moguillansky

Thanks to everybody for warm an encouraging feedback!

Eduardo,, nice to meet you in thhis list! Of course I remember you, your music 
and extraordinary memory for fases.

Some explanations about the setup:

the was two groups of children, one playing on ON-OFF switches (4 swithces), 
other on slider.

Every time when the switches were turned (almost) together - either by chance 
or by my sign, a new cloud of sound was generated. When any of the switches 
was turned on, it triggered a resonant filter in specifiq frequency band. The 
swithc-players group was free to to play on their instruments in free rythm, 
so it created a kind of random layer of rythmical changes in the sound.
When a specific combination of tghe switches (0101 or 1010 in my case) was 
turned on, temperature changer of the CPU from previous reading was sent via 
setChannel to csound. That determinded  the fundamental frequency of the 
sound.

The sound consisted of a cloud of 10..14 waves of scanned synthesis (scanu and 
scans opcodes) on harmonic ratios to  the fundamental. I had defined presents 
of different parameters (mostly sets of different table numbers), every single 
wave took a random preset, so the cloud was every time different.

The slider players controlled the amplitude of every single wave and panning 
of another wave.

I used an arduino box to read the sate of sliders and an Redlab 1024LS digital 
IO controller for swithces.

I had signs for players "play", "don't change" and "to zero" and "together" - 
but this worked very little - it was a nice total chaos :)

greetings,
tarmo

On Saturday 02 June 2012 09:40:04 eduardo moguillansky wrote:
> On 6/1/2012 9:48 AM, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I had a nice experience with my son's kindergarden group yestereday - I
> > created a new interactive performance piece  for players on sliders and
> > switches.  Soundwise it was based almost entirey on scanned synthesis (+
> > some resonant filters).
> > 
> > The sound was synthesized in real time and it was influenced by the
> > actions of the children and computer itself - the pitch changes reflect
> > the temperature changes of the computer's CPU, read at moments of
> > certain switch combinations. Thus the computer performed along the
> > children.
> > The controlling program  was written in C++ and Qt, using Csound API.
> > The idea was to give children an experience that music can be also
> > sound, not just only melody or beat...
> > It was great fun!
> > 
> >   A video about it is up on https://vimeo.com/43235666
> > 
> > If you have more specific questions, please let me know!
> > 
> > greetings,
> > tarmo
> > 
> > 
> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
> > 
> >              https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=8196
> >              8&atid=564599
> > 
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> > csound"
> great! What are the chlidren using as controllers? Would you mind
> telling how the interaction was set up, and how the children reacted?
>  From the video it is not so clear.
> 
> I remember meeting you and your son at the Ferienkurse in Darmstadt some
> years ago, nice to see you here!
> 
> best,
> Eduardo Moguillansky
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> csound"

hello list,

I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
Soundflower/IAC driver?
Max for Live?
are there other tricks that you know of?

sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.

cheers!

Andreas

What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
comes with it. It's the best place to start.

Rory.

p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!

On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
> hello list,
>
> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
> Soundflower/IAC driver?
> Max for Live?
> are there other tricks that you know of?
>
> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>
> cheers!
>
> Andreas
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>

The website:
http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/

On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>
> Rory.
>
> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>
> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>> hello list,
>>
>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> Max for Live?
>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>
>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>

rory,

thanks for the link.
I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago, but I completely forgot about it.

I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
how about AU?
any options?

Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
it might be for me to get more into Live.

On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:

> The website:
> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
> 
> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> 
>> Rory.
>> 
>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> 
>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>> hello list,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>> Max for Live?
>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>> 
>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>> 
>>> cheers!
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> 

AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
it's not Peiman will have my head!

On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
> rory,
>
> thanks for the link.
> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>
> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
> how about AU?
> any options?
>
> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
>> The website:
>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>>
>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>>> hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>>> Max for Live?
>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>>
>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>>>
>>>> cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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You said it :-)

BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in protools.

P

On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
> it's not Peiman will have my head!
>
> On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>> rory,
>>
>> thanks for the link.
>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>>
>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> how about AU?
>> any options?
>>
>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> The website:
>>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>>
>>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>>>
>>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>>>> hello list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>>>> Max for Live?
>>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>>>
>>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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hello,

just to mention: on the open source side csound works very well with ardour  - 
as arouting over jack (jacko opcodes) or as ladspa plugin (But Andreas, of 
course, your favourite tools are of another league)

tarmo

On Saturday 09 June 2012 15:24:43 andreas russo wrote:
> rory,
> 
> thanks for the link.
> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
> but I completely forgot about it.
> 
> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
> how about AU?
> any options?
> 
> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
> it might be for me to get more into Live.
> 
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
> > The website:
> > http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
> > 
> > On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> >> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
> >> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
> >> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
> >> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
> >> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
> >> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
> >> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
> >> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
> >> 
> >> Rory.
> >> 
> >> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
> >> 
> >> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
> >>> hello list,
> >>> 
> >>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a
> >>> DAW.
> >>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
> >>> Max for Live?
> >>> are there other tricks that you know of?
> >>> 
> >>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
> >>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for
> >>> visuals.
> >>> 
> >>> cheers!
> >>> 
> >>> Andreas
> >>> 
> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
> >>> 
> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> >>> 
> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> >>> csound"> 
> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
> > 
> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> > 
> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> > csound"
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"

If it's using Jack then protools also works with jack and Csound.
Trouble is you can't automate anything. Of course there is always
csLADSPA that works inside ardour but I never found it very smooth as
it would make Ardour crash occasionally (when consolidating). Not to
mention that Ardour's automation editing is pretty much non existent,
which defeats the object.

Rory, we are all waiting for the day :-)

P

On 9 June 2012 20:43, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
> hello,
>
> just to mention: on the open source side csound works very well with ardour  -
> as arouting over jack (jacko opcodes) or as ladspa plugin (But Andreas, of
> course, your favourite tools are of another league)
>
> tarmo
>
> On Saturday 09 June 2012 15:24:43 andreas russo wrote:
>> rory,
>>
>> thanks for the link.
>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
>> but I completely forgot about it.
>>
>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> how about AU?
>> any options?
>>
>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> > The website:
>> > http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>> >
>> > On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> >> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>> >> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>> >> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>> >> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>> >> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>> >> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>> >> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> >>
>> >> Rory.
>> >>
>> >> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> >>
>> >> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >>> hello list,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a
>> >>> DAW.
>> >>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> >>> Max for Live?
>> >>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> >>>
>> >>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>> >>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for
>> >>> visuals.
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers!
>> >>>
>> >>> Andreas
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>
>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> >>> csound">
>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >
>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >
>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> > csound"
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>

PS I don't know what DAW I'd use since PT doesn't have AU support. I
was thinking of trying Adobe Audition along with cabbage vst (or AU
when available) for sound transformations.

P

On 9 June 2012 22:40, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> If it's using Jack then protools also works with jack and Csound.
> Trouble is you can't automate anything. Of course there is always
> csLADSPA that works inside ardour but I never found it very smooth as
> it would make Ardour crash occasionally (when consolidating). Not to
> mention that Ardour's automation editing is pretty much non existent,
> which defeats the object.
>
> Rory, we are all waiting for the day :-)
>
> P
>
> On 9 June 2012 20:43, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> just to mention: on the open source side csound works very well with ardour  -
>> as arouting over jack (jacko opcodes) or as ladspa plugin (But Andreas, of
>> course, your favourite tools are of another league)
>>
>> tarmo
>>
>> On Saturday 09 June 2012 15:24:43 andreas russo wrote:
>>> rory,
>>>
>>> thanks for the link.
>>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
>>> but I completely forgot about it.
>>>
>>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>> how about AU?
>>> any options?
>>>
>>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>> > The website:
>>> > http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>> >
>>> > On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> >> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>> >> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>> >> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>> >> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>> >> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>> >> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>> >> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>> >> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>> >>
>>> >> Rory.
>>> >>
>>> >> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>> >>> hello list,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a
>>> >>> DAW.
>>> >>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>> >>> Max for Live?
>>> >>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>>> >>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for
>>> >>> visuals.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> cheers!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Andreas
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>>
>>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> >>> csound">
>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >
>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>> csound"
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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actually, using something like the IAC driver in OSX would let you automate, but it clearly isn't the most straightforward option, plus I can't imagine anyone looking at it with a good eye in a fast-pace professional environment.
but then again, Csound isn't exactly your ordinary Reason instrument. =)

Andreas

On Jun 9, 2012, at 17:40, peiman khosravi  wrote:

> If it's using Jack then protools also works with jack and Csound.
> Trouble is you can't automate anything. Of course there is always
> csLADSPA that works inside ardour but I never found it very smooth as
> it would make Ardour crash occasionally (when consolidating). Not to
> mention that Ardour's automation editing is pretty much non existent,
> which defeats the object.
> 
> Rory, we are all waiting for the day :-)
> 
> P
> 
> On 9 June 2012 20:43, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>> hello,
>> 
>> just to mention: on the open source side csound works very well with ardour  -
>> as arouting over jack (jacko opcodes) or as ladspa plugin (But Andreas, of
>> course, your favourite tools are of another league)
>> 
>> tarmo
>> 
>> On Saturday 09 June 2012 15:24:43 andreas russo wrote:
>>> rory,
>>> 
>>> thanks for the link.
>>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
>>> but I completely forgot about it.
>>> 
>>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>> how about AU?
>>> any options?
>>> 
>>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>> The website:
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>>>>> hello list,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a
>>>>>> DAW.
>>>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>>>>> Max for Live?
>>>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>>>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for
>>>>>> visuals.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound">
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>> 
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> 
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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> 

But isn't that midi only? If only life was that simple and 127 steps
was a good resolution! If it was then I would start using Reason and
give up Csound altogether :p

On 9 June 2012 22:49, andreas russo  wrote:
> actually, using something like the IAC driver in OSX would let you automate, but it clearly isn't the most straightforward option, plus I can't imagine anyone looking at it with a good eye in a fast-pace professional environment.
> but then again, Csound isn't exactly your ordinary Reason instrument. =)
>
> Andreas
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 17:40, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>
>> If it's using Jack then protools also works with jack and Csound.
>> Trouble is you can't automate anything. Of course there is always
>> csLADSPA that works inside ardour but I never found it very smooth as
>> it would make Ardour crash occasionally (when consolidating). Not to
>> mention that Ardour's automation editing is pretty much non existent,
>> which defeats the object.
>>
>> Rory, we are all waiting for the day :-)
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 20:43, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> just to mention: on the open source side csound works very well with ardour  -
>>> as arouting over jack (jacko opcodes) or as ladspa plugin (But Andreas, of
>>> course, your favourite tools are of another league)
>>>
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>> On Saturday 09 June 2012 15:24:43 andreas russo wrote:
>>>> rory,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the link.
>>>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
>>>> but I completely forgot about it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>>> how about AU?
>>>> any options?
>>>>
>>>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>>> The website:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>>>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>>>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>>>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>>>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>>>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>>>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>>>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>>>>>> hello list,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a
>>>>>>> DAW.
>>>>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>>>>>> Max for Live?
>>>>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>>>>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for
>>>>>>> visuals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound">
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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Max for lived and the csound~ object have been great for that DAW.  With Logic, I have had success with using soundflower and midi over iac, though this is more tedious than using M4L.  There are definitely some good examples in the Csound for Live package.

Hope this helps,

John Clements


On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:54 PM, andreas russo  wrote:

> hello list,
> 
> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
> Soundflower/IAC driver?
> Max for Live?
> are there other tricks that you know of?
> 
> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
> 
> cheers!
> 
> Andreas
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

peiman:

MIDI only, indeed.
good enough for triggering MIDI notes and most commercial applications, not so much for other purposes.
still better than not being able to automate at all. plus, if you want higher resolution 14 bit MIDI will get you closer.

john:

M4L is amazing, and I love it.
if I could implement that in other DAWs I would use it all the time... but Live just drives me crazy.

Andreas


On Jun 9, 2012, at 18:31, John Clements wrote:

> Max for lived and the csound~ object have been great for that DAW.  With Logic, I have had success with using soundflower and midi over iac, though this is more tedious than using M4L.  There are definitely some good examples in the Csound for Live package.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> John Clements
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:54 PM, andreas russo  wrote:
> 
>> hello list,
>> 
>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> Max for Live?
>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> 
>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>> 
>> cheers!
>> 
>> Andreas
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

OK thanks. Well it doesn't sound like it's an option for me.

Max4Live, yes, I'm still working on my Csound4Live devices, whenever I
get the time. One major issue is that live doesn't support
multichannel and I don't see myself going back to stereo composition
any time soon. But yes, it seems like the best option right now.

P

On 9 June 2012 23:43, andreas russo  wrote:
> peiman:
>
> MIDI only, indeed.
> good enough for triggering MIDI notes and most commercial applications, not so much for other purposes.
> still better than not being able to automate at all. plus, if you want higher resolution 14 bit MIDI will get you closer.
>
> john:
>
> M4L is amazing, and I love it.
> if I could implement that in other DAWs I would use it all the time... but Live just drives me crazy.
>
> Andreas
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 18:31, John Clements wrote:
>
>> Max for lived and the csound~ object have been great for that DAW.  With Logic, I have had success with using soundflower and midi over iac, though this is more tedious than using M4L.  There are definitely some good examples in the Csound for Live package.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> John Clements
>>
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:54 PM, andreas russo  wrote:
>>
>>> hello list,
>>>
>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>> Max for Live?
>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>
>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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All daws drive me crazy.  You can get the best of both , maybe , and try rewiring live in your daw of choice and just use it to host your .csd .  Havent tried this but I assume it would work.  I believe m4l and rewire are compatible ...

Good luck,

John

Peiman, agreed.  I just wish more people and venues owned systems with which to enjoy good multichannel music. 

Let's hope for some improvements with Live 9.

John

A solid solution and some nice tutorials.  Good find.  Thanks much for sharing.

John

Jack works fine with PT, csound and max.

I forever curse cycling74 for putting an end to pluggo.

P

On 10 June 2012 02:04, andreas russo  wrote:
> sending audio from Max to PT is simple.
> looks like there's now way to go the other way around though (unless you use
> SoundFlower, in which case I can't seem to be able to send audio back to PT
> from Max).
> I can basically use Max as an instrument, but not as an "effect".
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 21:01, J Clements wrote:
>
> A solid solution and some nice tutorials.  Good find.  Thanks much for
> sharing.
>
> John
>
> On Jun 9, 2012 8:21 PM, "andreas russo"  wrote:
>>
>> actually, there's no way to rewire Live into another DAW while using M4L
>> plugins.
>> from Ableton website:
>>
>> Can I use Max for Live devices when Live is running as ReWire slave?
>> You can use Max for Live devices only while running Live as ReWire master
>> or as a stand-alone application.
>>
>> I noticed though that in Logic you can simply create an aux track, and
>> have the input being Max/MSP, just like you would do with ReWire.
>> seems to work fine so far.
>> the same thing seems to work for Pro Tools when selecting the Max/MSP
>> plugin.
>>
>> in case anyone is interested, there's also a simple
>> tutorial: http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=20361
>>
>> andreas
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 15:33, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
>> AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>> it's not Peiman will have my head!
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>>
>> rory,
>>
>>
>> thanks for the link.
>>
>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time ago,
>> but I completely forgot about it.
>>
>>
>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>
>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>
>> how about AU?
>>
>> any options?
>>
>>
>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>
>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
>>
>> The website:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>
>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>
>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>
>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements since
>>
>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>
>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to get
>>
>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>
>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>
>> hello list,
>>
>>
>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with a DAW.
>>
>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>
>> Max for Live?
>>
>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>
>>
>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>

Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
software buses?

Thanks

P

On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for Mac
> (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with fxpansion's VST
> to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for work.
> Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my plugin
> as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's gonna be
> a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the wrapper
> might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools into
> their workflow.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi 
> wrote:
>>
>> You said it :-)
>>
>> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>> protools.
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> > AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>> > it's not Peiman will have my head!
>> >
>> > On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >> rory,
>> >>
>> >> thanks for the link.
>> >> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time
>> >> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>> >>
>> >> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> >> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> >> how about AU?
>> >> any options?
>> >>
>> >> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> >> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The website:
>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> >>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>> >>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>> >>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>> >>>> since
>> >>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>> >>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>> >>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rory.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >>>>> hello list,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with
>> >>>>> a DAW.
>> >>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> >>>>> Max for Live?
>> >>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>> >>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> cheers!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Andreas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> > csound"
>> >
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>

PS maybe we (I!) should test cabbage more extensively with the plug-in
wrapper too. It would be worth considering it Rory?

P

On 11 June 2012 00:28, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
> software buses?
>
> Thanks
>
> P
>
> On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for Mac
>> (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with fxpansion's VST
>> to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for work.
>> Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my plugin
>> as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's gonna be
>> a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the wrapper
>> might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools into
>> their workflow.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You said it :-)
>>>
>>> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>>> protools.
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> > AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>>> > it's not Peiman will have my head!
>>> >
>>> > On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>>> >> rory,
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks for the link.
>>> >> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time
>>> >> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>> >> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>> >> how about AU?
>>> >> any options?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>> >> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> The website:
>>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> >>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>> >>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new version
>>> >>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update the
>>> >>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>>> >>>> since
>>> >>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>> >>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to
>>> >>>> get
>>> >>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>> >>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Rory.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo  wrote:
>>> >>>>> hello list,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound with
>>> >>>>> a DAW.
>>> >>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>> >>>>> Max for Live?
>>> >>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the commercial
>>> >>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design for visuals.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> cheers!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Andreas
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> > csound"
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>

wow, nice. Looking forward to it! I use protools too and it would be
nice not to have to keep exporting/importing sounds and do everything
in PT.

Best,
Peiman

On 11 June 2012 00:32, Alex Weiss  wrote:
> Yes, that's the goal. I haven't implemented it yet, but my goal is to have a
> proof of concept ready by the end of the next week.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:28 PM, peiman khosravi 
> wrote:
>>
>> Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
>> software buses?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for Mac
>> > (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with fxpansion's
>> > VST
>> > to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for
>> > work.
>> > Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my
>> > plugin
>> > as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's gonna
>> > be
>> > a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the
>> > wrapper
>> > might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools
>> > into
>> > their workflow.
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You said it :-)
>> >>
>> >> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>> >> protools.
>> >>
>> >> P
>> >>
>> >> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> > AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>> >> > it's not Peiman will have my head!
>> >> >
>> >> > On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >> >> rory,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks for the link.
>> >> >> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time
>> >> >> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> >> >> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> >> >> how about AU?
>> >> >> any options?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> >> >> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> The website:
>> >> >>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> >>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> >> >>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new
>> >> >>>> version
>> >> >>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>> >> >>>> since
>> >> >>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>> >> >>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to
>> >> >>>> get
>> >> >>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>> >> >>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Rory.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo 
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> hello list,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound
>> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >>>>> a DAW.
>> >> >>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> >> >>>>> Max for Live?
>> >> >>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the
>> >> >>>>> commercial
>> >> >>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design
>> >> >>>>> for visuals.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> cheers!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Andreas
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >
>> >> >  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> > "unsubscribe
>> >> > csound"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >> csound"
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>

Yes, at the moment cabbage doesn't seem to support the wrapper.

On 11 June 2012 00:33, Alex Weiss  wrote:
> That would definitely be worth it. Just be aware that the wrapper can be
> very picky; I've seen quite a few commercial plug-ins that displayed very
> strange GUI behavior (which seems to be the hardest part to get right,
> anyway).
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM, peiman khosravi 
> wrote:
>>
>> PS maybe we (I!) should test cabbage more extensively with the plug-in
>> wrapper too. It would be worth considering it Rory?
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 11 June 2012 00:28, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>> > Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
>> > software buses?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> > On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for
>> >> Mac
>> >> (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with
>> >> fxpansion's VST
>> >> to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for
>> >> work.
>> >> Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my
>> >> plugin
>> >> as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's
>> >> gonna be
>> >> a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the
>> >> wrapper
>> >> might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools
>> >> into
>> >> their workflow.
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You said it :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>> >>> protools.
>> >>>
>> >>> P
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>> > AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly.
>> >>> > If
>> >>> > it's not Peiman will have my head!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >>> >> rory,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> thanks for the link.
>> >>> >> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some
>> >>> >> time
>> >>> >> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> >>> >> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> >>> >> how about AU?
>> >>> >> any options?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> >>> >> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> The website:
>> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >>> >>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> >>> >>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new
>> >>> >>>> version
>> >>> >>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update
>> >>> >>>> the
>> >>> >>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>> >>> >>>> since
>> >>> >>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In
>> >>> >>>> the
>> >>> >>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available
>> >>> >>>> to
>> >>> >>>> get
>> >>> >>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor
>> >>> >>>> that
>> >>> >>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Rory.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo 
>> >>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> hello list,
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound
>> >>> >>>>> with
>> >>> >>>>> a DAW.
>> >>> >>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> >>> >>>>> Max for Live?
>> >>> >>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the
>> >>> >>>>> commercial
>> >>> >>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design
>> >>> >>>>> for visuals.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> cheers!
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Andreas
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> > "unsubscribe
>> >>> > csound"
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >>> "unsubscribe
>> >>> csound"
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>

This sounds very promising. Looking forward to doing some testing!

P

On 11 June 2012 07:41, Alex Weiss  wrote:
> I had some downtime today so I went ahead and implemented a small POC. I'm
> happy to say that it works. Automation is correctly recorded into Pro Tools
> and plays back as it should. There's still a couple of kinks, but it looks
> like it'll work.
> The next step would be to test if it's possible to have the plugin deal with
> MIDI directly instead of through Pro Tools; that way csound would be
> MIDI-automatable (unlike regular PT plug-ins).
>
> I'll post again once I made more progress.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:28 PM, peiman khosravi 
> wrote:
>>
>> Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
>> software buses?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for Mac
>> > (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with fxpansion's
>> > VST
>> > to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for
>> > work.
>> > Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my
>> > plugin
>> > as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's gonna
>> > be
>> > a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the
>> > wrapper
>> > might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools
>> > into
>> > their workflow.
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You said it :-)
>> >>
>> >> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>> >> protools.
>> >>
>> >> P
>> >>
>> >> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> > AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>> >> > it's not Peiman will have my head!
>> >> >
>> >> > On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>> >> >> rory,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks for the link.
>> >> >> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time
>> >> >> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>> >> >> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>> >> >> how about AU?
>> >> >> any options?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>> >> >> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> The website:
>> >> >>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >> >>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>> >> >>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new
>> >> >>>> version
>> >> >>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>> >> >>>> since
>> >> >>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>> >> >>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to
>> >> >>>> get
>> >> >>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>> >> >>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Rory.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo 
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> hello list,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound
>> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >>>>> a DAW.
>> >> >>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>> >> >>>>> Max for Live?
>> >> >>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the
>> >> >>>>> commercial
>> >> >>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design
>> >> >>>>> for visuals.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> cheers!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Andreas
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >>> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> >> "unsubscribe csound"
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >> >
>> >> >  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> > "unsubscribe
>> >> > csound"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> >>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> >> "unsubscribe
>> >> csound"
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>

Alex, it sound amazing.
This could radically change my audion production.
looking forward to it.

Andreas

On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:24, peiman khosravi  wrote:

> This sounds very promising. Looking forward to doing some testing!
> 
> P
> 
> On 11 June 2012 07:41, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>> I had some downtime today so I went ahead and implemented a small POC. I'm
>> happy to say that it works. Automation is correctly recorded into Pro Tools
>> and plays back as it should. There's still a couple of kinks, but it looks
>> like it'll work.
>> The next step would be to test if it's possible to have the plugin deal with
>> MIDI directly instead of through Pro Tools; that way csound would be
>> MIDI-automatable (unlike regular PT plug-ins).
>> 
>> I'll post again once I made more progress.
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:28 PM, peiman khosravi 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good to know this. Would this eventually enable automating channel
>>> software buses?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> P
>>> 
>>> On 11 June 2012 00:01, Alex Weiss  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm actually in the process of developing a version of CsoundVST for Mac
>>>> (starting from scratch). The goal is to use it together with fxpansion's
>>>> VST
>>>> to RTAS wrapper so that I can use it in Pro Tools, which I need for
>>>> work.
>>>> Amazingly enough, things are working so far and I am able to use my
>>>> plugin
>>>> as an insert in Pro Tools and route audio into and out of it. It's gonna
>>>> be
>>>> a while till I'm done, but I just wanted to let people know that the
>>>> wrapper
>>>> might be a potential solution for those who want to integrate Pro Tools
>>>> into
>>>> their workflow.
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM, peiman khosravi
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You said it :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW I tried the vst to RTAS convertor and they don't seem to work in
>>>>> protools.
>>>>> 
>>>>> P
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 June 2012 20:33, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>> AU is under development but should hopefully be available shortly. If
>>>>>> it's not Peiman will have my head!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 June 2012 20:24, andreas russo  wrote:
>>>>>>> rory,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks for the link.
>>>>>>> I'm sure someone (probably Dr. B.) mentioned Cabbage to me some time
>>>>>>> ago, but I completely forgot about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm on OSX, and my main DAWs are Logic and Pro Tools.
>>>>>>> I suppose finding some Csound to RTAS version would be impossible.
>>>>>>> how about AU?
>>>>>>> any options?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cabbage seems to be pretty amazing though.
>>>>>>> it might be for me to get more into Live.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The website:
>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/cabbage/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 June 2012 19:10, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What platform are you on? I use Cabbage which lets me run Csound
>>>>>>>>> instruments as VST plugins. I'm planning on releasing a new
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> for Windows in the next week or so. After that I'll try to update
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> OSX binaries. The latest version has made some nice improvements
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> the last release but I'll need to test it before releasing. In the
>>>>>>>>> mean time you can try the releases that are currently available to
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> a feel for it. There is an integrated help file in the editor that
>>>>>>>>> comes with it. It's the best place to start.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> p.s. all the other ways you mentioned will work fine btw!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9 June 2012 18:54, andreas russo 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> hello list,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering how most people (if any) here interface Csound
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a DAW.
>>>>>>>>>> Soundflower/IAC driver?
>>>>>>>>>> Max for Live?
>>>>>>>>>> are there other tricks that you know of?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I wish I could use my Csound instruments in the
>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>> productions I work on, especially when it comes to sound design
>>>>>>>>>> for visuals.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> cheers!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
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Hello Csounders,

I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.

I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:

imode = 2	; [square wave]
kpw = .5		; [pule width]

kcps cpsmidib 24
kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
outs ares,ares


problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
any suggestion?

andreas

First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
access?

Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?

==John ff

> Hello Csounders,
>
> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>
> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>
> imode = 2	; [square wave]
> kpw = .5		; [pule width]
>
> kcps cpsmidib 24
> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
> outs ares,ares
>
>
> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
> any suggestion?
>
> andreas
>

john,

here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.

I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?

thanks for your help john.

andreas

On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:

> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
> access?
> 
> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
> 
> ==John ff
> 
>> Hello Csounders,
>> 
>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>> 
>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>> 
>> imode = 2	; [square wave]
>> kpw = .5		; [pule width]
>> 
>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>> outs ares,ares
>> 
>> 
>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>> any suggestion?
>> 
>> andreas
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

No.
On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:

> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

Can we see the CSD?
On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:

> john,
> 
> here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
> I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
> I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
> also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
> with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.
> 
> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?
> 
> thanks for your help john.
> 
> andreas
> 
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
> 
>> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
>> access?
>> 
>> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
>> 
>> ==John ff
>> 
>>> Hello Csounders,
>>> 
>>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>>> 
>>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>>> 
>>> imode = 2	; [square wave]
>>> kpw = .5		; [pule width]
>>> 
>>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>>> outs ares,ares
>>> 
>>> 
>>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>>> any suggestion?
>>> 
>>> andreas
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

Do you have your computer's mic turned on and feeding Csound?

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Can we see the CSD?
> On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:
>
>> john,
>>
>> here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
>> I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
>> I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
>> also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
>> with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.
>>
>> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
>> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?
>>
>> thanks for your help john.
>>
>> andreas
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>>> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
>>> access?
>>>
>>> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
>>>
>>> ==John ff
>>>
>>>> Hello Csounders,
>>>>
>>>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>>>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>>>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>>>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>>>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>>>>
>>>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>>>>
>>>> imode = 2   ; [square wave]
>>>> kpw = .5            ; [pule width]
>>>>
>>>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>>>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>>>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>>>> outs ares,ares
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>>>> any suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> andreas
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>



-- 
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://www.michael-gogins.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

I do not: nothing is selected as an input device.

this is a simplified .csd



sr	 =	44100
kr	 =	4410
nchnls	=	2
0dbfs	 =	1

turnon "minimoog"

instr minimoog

kcf = 2000
kres = .5
kpw = .5
imode	= 2 ; 12 triangle; 10 square; 8 integrated saw; 6 pulse; 4 saw/triangle/ramp;	2 square/PWM

kcps cpsmidib 24
kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01

ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
asig moogvcf ares, kcf, kres

outs asig,asig
endin


f0 999



On Jun 16, 2012, at 22:01, Michael Gogins wrote:

> Do you have your computer's mic turned on and feeding Csound?
> 
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> Can we see the CSD?
>> On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:
>> 
>>> john,
>>> 
>>> here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
>>> I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
>>> I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
>>> also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
>>> with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.
>>> 
>>> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
>>> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?
>>> 
>>> thanks for your help john.
>>> 
>>> andreas
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
>>>> access?
>>>> 
>>>> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
>>>> 
>>>> ==John ff
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Csounders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>>>>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>>>>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>>>>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>>>>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>>>>> 
>>>>> imode = 2   ; [square wave]
>>>>> kpw = .5            ; [pule width]
>>>>> 
>>>>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>>>>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>>>>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>>>>> outs ares,ares
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>>>>> any suggestion?
>>>>> 
>>>>> andreas
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
>> 
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> 

Remove turnon opcode if you are playing with midi kbd.
René


On 06/17/2012 07:01 AM, andreas russo wrote:
> I do not: nothing is selected as an input device.
>
> this is a simplified .csd
>
> 
> 
> sr	 =	44100
> kr	 =	4410
> nchnls	=	2
> 0dbfs	 =	1
>
> turnon "minimoog"
>
> instr minimoog
>
> kcf = 2000
> kres = .5
> kpw = .5
> imode	= 2 ; 12 triangle; 10 square; 8 integrated saw; 6 pulse; 4 saw/triangle/ramp;	2 square/PWM
>
> kcps cpsmidib 24
> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>
> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
> asig moogvcf ares, kcf, kres
>
> outs asig,asig
> endin
> 
> 
> f0 999
> 
> 
>
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 22:01, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> Do you have your computer's mic turned on and feeding Csound?
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>   wrote:
>>> Can we see the CSD?
>>> On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:
>>>
>>>> john,
>>>>
>>>> here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
>>>> I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
>>>> I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
>>>> also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
>>>> with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
>>>> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your help john.
>>>>
>>>> andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
>>>>> access?
>>>>>
>>>>> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
>>>>>
>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Csounders,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>>>>>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>>>>>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>>>>>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>>>>>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> imode = 2   ; [square wave]
>>>>>> kpw = .5            ; [pule width]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>>>>>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>>>>>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>>>>>> outs ares,ares
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>>>>>> any suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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rene...
... thank you!

I tried controlling the instrument without using midi, but didn't know turnon could do this!

On Jun 17, 2012, at 02:33, Rene Jopi wrote:

> Remove turnon opcode if you are playing with midi kbd.
> René
> 
> 
> On 06/17/2012 07:01 AM, andreas russo wrote:
>> I do not: nothing is selected as an input device.
>> 
>> this is a simplified .csd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> sr	 =	44100
>> kr	 =	4410
>> nchnls	=	2
>> 0dbfs	 =	1
>> 
>> turnon "minimoog"
>> 
>> instr minimoog
>> 
>> kcf = 2000
>> kres = .5
>> kpw = .5
>> imode	= 2 ; 12 triangle; 10 square; 8 integrated saw; 6 pulse; 4 saw/triangle/ramp;	2 square/PWM
>> 
>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>> 
>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>> asig moogvcf ares, kcf, kres
>> 
>> outs asig,asig
>> endin
>> 
>> 
>> f0 999
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 22:01, Michael Gogins wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you have your computer's mic turned on and feeding Csound?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>   wrote:
>>>> Can we see the CSD?
>>>> On 16 Jun 2012, at 20:15, andreas russo wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> john,
>>>>> 
>>>>> here's a short recording I made: http://soundcloud.com/saemola/vco2-rumble
>>>>> I'm running the score, than playing a couple of notes on the keyboard.
>>>>> I'm using CsoundQT 0.6.0, but running it from the terminal does the same thing.
>>>>> also, the problem seems to appear with imode = 2 [square/PWM] and 10 [square].
>>>>> with imode = 6 [pulse] in this case no sound comes out, just sporadic loud clicks, and with imode = 12 [saw] or 4 [saw/tri/ramp], the level is way lower, but it's still there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm on Csound 5.14 for OSX.
>>>>> speaking of which... do I have to disinstall csound when installing updates (like 5.17)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks for your help john.
>>>>> 
>>>>> andreas
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 03:37, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> First the obvious question -- does it happen to file and if so can we have
>>>>>> access?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second question (sorry to repeat this) which platform and which version?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Csounders,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am creating a simple moog synth emulation with Csound, but I am having a
>>>>>>> weird problem when using a MIDI keyboard to track pitch and gate the
>>>>>>> synth: even when not playin any note, there's a constant very low
>>>>>>> frequency playing (around 8 Hz).
>>>>>>> the same doesn't happen with, say, oscil.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I simplified the patch, but the problem persists:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> imode = 2   ; [square wave]
>>>>>>> kpw = .5            ; [pule width]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> kcps cpsmidib 24
>>>>>>> kadsr madsr .01, .01, .5, .01
>>>>>>> ares vco2 .5*kadsr, kcps, imode, kpw
>>>>>>> outs ares,ares
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> problem is there both with cpsmidi and with cpsmidib.
>>>>>>> any suggestion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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