I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches

I realise I need fof but looking around I could not find that --
everything was either too complex to unravel/deploy, or too simple to
sound anywhere right.  I do not need MIDI controls or stuff -- I have
the score already.

Anyone got such a thing?  or can point me somewhere I can understand,
or do I have to commit time to it?

I realise this is unfair or cheeky but it would save time against a
deadline

==John ffitch

Can you use any additive synth-type stuff?

On 6/1/12, john ffitch  wrote:
> I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
> one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>
> I realise I need fof but looking around I could not find that --
> everything was either too complex to unravel/deploy, or too simple to
> sound anywhere right.  I do not need MIDI controls or stuff -- I have
> the score already.
>
> Anyone got such a thing?  or can point me somewhere I can understand,
> or do I have to commit time to it?
>
> I realise this is unfair or cheeky but it would save time against a
> deadline
>
> ==John ffitch
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>

There's an example from Cecilia that uses fofs and the cybil score
preprocessor. I used to have an example of a unified .csd with the
parts (soprano, alto, tenor, bass) separated out that didn't need
cybil but I think it's in my archives somewhere. As I'm digging
through them you might have a look at the Cecilia program where the
fof example originates. All you need to get it as a unified .csd is to
take it out of the temp directory after cybil has processed the score
and you have a malleable, complete .orc for further fiddling. I'll see
what I can find.

-David

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:15 PM, john ffitch  wrote:
> I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
> one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>
> I realise I need fof but looking around I could not find that --
> everything was either too complex to unravel/deploy, or too simple to
> sound anywhere right.  I do not need MIDI controls or stuff -- I have
> the score already.
>
> Anyone got such a thing?  or can point me somewhere I can understand,
> or do I have to commit time to it?
>
> I realise this is unfair or cheeky but it would save time against a
> deadline
>
> ==John ffitch
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>

on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:

>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches

a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
certain point it ceased to progress... 

here's a short report:

http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/

it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
think.

if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.

You can also take a look at the vowgen UDO in the database:
http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76



On 2 June 2012 03:08, luis jure  wrote:
>
> on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>
>>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>
> a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
> never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
> certain point it ceased to progress...
>
> here's a short report:
>
> http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>
> it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
> examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
> sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
> but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
> think.
>
> if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
> and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
> can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
> could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> You can also take a look at the vowgen UDO in the database:
> http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76
>
>
>
> On 2 June 2012 03:08, luis jure  wrote:
>>
>> on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>>
>>>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>>
>> a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
>> never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
>> certain point it ceased to progress...
>>
>> here's a short report:
>>
>> http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>>
>> it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
>> examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
>> sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
>> but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
>> think.
>>
>> if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
>> and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
>> can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
>> could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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That's odd. My apologies. Here's a search link:
https://www.google.de/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=vowgen+udo+csound


On 2 June 2012 12:03, jean-pierre lemoine  wrote:
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>
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>
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> visit this site. The detailed report explains the security risks on
> this site.
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> You can also take a look at the vowgen UDO in the database:
>> http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2012 03:08, luis jure  wrote:
>>>
>>> on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>>>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>>>
>>> a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
>>> never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
>>> certain point it ceased to progress...
>>>
>>> here's a short report:
>>>
>>> http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>>>
>>> it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
>>> examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
>>> sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
>>> but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
>>> think.
>>>
>>> if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
>>> and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
>>> can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
>>> could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>
>
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Thanks Rory, but www.csounds.com is blocked by my anti-malware. Site
administrator should look at this problem (or it is a nasty problem
with my browser)

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> That's odd. My apologies. Here's a search link:
> https://www.google.de/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=vowgen+udo+csound
>
>
> On 2 June 2012 12:03, jean-pierre lemoine  wrote:
>> This link is blocked by Symantec: safety issue
>>
>> Malicious Web Site Blocked
>>
>> You attempted to access:
>> http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76
>>
>> This is a known malicious web site. It is recommended that you do NOT
>> visit this site. The detailed report explains the security risks on
>> this site.
>>
>> http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.csounds.com%2Fudo%2FdisplayOpcode.php%3Fopcode_id=76&product=NIS&version=19.7.1.5&layout=Retail&lang=0901&source=toolbar
>> For your protection, this web site has been blocked. Visit Symantec to
>> learn more about phishing and internet security.
>>
>> Threats found: 1
>> Here is a complete list: (for more information about a specific
>> threat, click on the Threat Name below)
>> Threat Name:    HTTP Fake AV Redirect Request
>> Location:        http://www.csounds.com/downloads
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> You can also take a look at the vowgen UDO in the database:
>>> http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 June 2012 03:08, luis jure  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>>>>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>>>>
>>>> a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
>>>> never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
>>>> certain point it ceased to progress...
>>>>
>>>> here's a short report:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>>>>
>>>> it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
>>>> examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
>>>> sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
>>>> but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
>>>> think.
>>>>
>>>> if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
>>>> and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
>>>> can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
>>>> could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>
>>
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>
>
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That's even more serious. I know they were having some issues but I
thought it had been sorted out. I can access it here if you would like
me to retrieve the UDO code? Just say the word.

Thanks, but I have found it on my disk - I do not remenber I have
downloaded it ;)


On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> That's even more serious. I know they were having some issues but I
> thought it had been sorted out. I can access it here if you would like
> me to retrieve the UDO code? Just say the word.
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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Hi Luis,

Thanks for posting that report!  The audio examples were very
interesting; I had the impression at times where it would go into a
moment of sounding like a real human voice (generally when it had a
slight vibrato and was in the higher registers).  I saved the Google
Translated text to Pocket just now and will look forward to reading
through it!

steven

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:08 PM, luis jure  wrote:
>
> on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>
>>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>
> a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using fof.
> never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
> certain point it ceased to progress...
>
> here's a short report:
>
> http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>
> it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
> examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
> sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too sophisticated...),
> but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable, i
> think.
>
> if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the csd
> and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that you
> can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
> could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>

on 2012-06-02 at 13:08 Steven Yi wrote:

>Thanks for posting that report! 

and thank you for looking at it. there was room for much improvement, but
after a while i put it in the fridge, and it's still there... some time ago
i thought that, after some polishing, i could perhaps submit it for the
csound journal.


> I saved the Google Translated text to Pocket

you'll have many a good laugh...

lol, beatboxing Google Translate! :D

On 6/2/12, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> Talking google translate and voice.
>
> Paste this text into google translate and set the language to German to
> German. Then click on the speaker icon in the "from" section.
>
> pv zk pv pv zk pv zk kz zk pv pv pv zk pv zk zk pzk pzk pvzkpkzvpvzk kkkkkk
> bsch
>
>
> Best,
> Peiman
>
> On 2 June 2012 18:32, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>
>> There is a very nice fof example that comes with csound~ max external
>> too.
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2012 18:08, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Luis,
>>>
>>> Thanks for posting that report!  The audio examples were very
>>> interesting; I had the impression at times where it would go into a
>>> moment of sounding like a real human voice (generally when it had a
>>> slight vibrato and was in the higher registers).  I saved the Google
>>> Translated text to Pocket just now and will look forward to reading
>>> through it!
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:08 PM, luis jure  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > on 2012-06-01 at 20:15 john ffitch wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I am seeking two instruments for a small demo; human voice, one alto
>>> >>one baritone, singing a single vowel like an arhhhh on known pitches
>>> >
>>> > a few years ago i worked for some time on a soprano instrument, using
>>> fof.
>>> > never really finished it, it was a work in progress. only that after a
>>> > certain point it ceased to progress...
>>> >
>>> > here's a short report:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/pubs/soprano/
>>> >
>>> > it's in spanish, i'm afraid, but at the bottom you can find some audio
>>> > examples of the results. the instrument itself isn't terribly
>>> > sophisticated (i don't have the csound skills to be too
>>> sophisticated...),
>>> > but it isn't too basic either, and the results are more than passable,
>>> > i
>>> > think.
>>> >
>>> > if you find the examples good enough for your needs, i can rescue the
>>> csd
>>> > and translate the comments into something resembling english, so that
>>> you
>>> > can use it. i guess that adjusting the formant tables a little bit you
>>> > could adapt the instrument to use it as alto voice.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>> >            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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