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[Csnd] Re: Re: Qutecsound Live event editor save feature

Date2010-10-09 20:24
FromDylan Kelly
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Qutecsound Live event editor save feature
Hi Andres,

   This small obstacle is easily avoided if one uses the QuteCsound live event controller to create a live event, and then copies the live event data into the text of the .csd file before saving and quitting.  In any case it's a simple work around, and it makes sense why QuteCsound would behave this way, as the live events do not change the text of the .csd.  The circumstance under which this occurs is if one quits QuteCsound without copying the live events into the score and saving3.  
   The live event editor is a great way to audition different several scores very quickly, and manage them in the same location, and it would be really nice to be able to save the data in the live event controller as as its own separate file.  A feature like this could add speed to the user experience, and it could also mean that users would be asked if they want to save the live events before quitting, which could add a little more safety for user data, and could also protect live event data in the event of a crash.
   I might have missed the save feature if it exists, but in the QuteCsound-0.60-beta, which is what I'm using, it looks like the save feature only applies to the .csd file. 

Happy weekend,
-Dylan Kelly
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Original E-mail
From: Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com>
Date: 10/05/2010 03:50 PM
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Qutecsound Live event editor save feature

Hi Dylan,

It should be saved as part of your csd. Can you check again, and try
to describe under what circumstances it's happening? (I seem to recall
in the release version, the shortcut to save does not work from the
live event sheets, so you need to save it from the menu, or from the
editor). As you mention, changes in the live event editor do not mark
a document as changed, so you have to remember to save, but this has
also been addressed for the next release.

Cheers,
Andres

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Dylan Kelly wrote:
> Hello All,
> I am a Csound student with Dr. Boulanger at Berklee, and I have been using
> the live event function to generate note lists.  I recently discovered that
> the live event feature does not have a save ability.  Maybe it could have
> the option to save the notes into the .csd file, or as a separate text file?
>  Of course you can manually insert the text into your score, but without a
> save feature for the live events, Qutecsound will not warn before it quits,
> clearing the live event editor.  This may cause some users to accidentally
> lose data.
> A save feature may not be a necessity, but it may help some users.
> -Dylan Kelly
> dskelly@berklee.net



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Date2010-10-09 20:39
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Qutecsound Live event editor save feature
Hi Dylan,

The live event sheets are saved as part of the csd file. You will see
them if you open the csd file in another text editor. The only thing
that is currently missing in the released version is that the live
event sheets mark the document as modified, so that QuteCsound warns
you if you close. However, you should be able to go to the main editor
and save the file and the live event sheets should be saved along with
the rest of the csd and the widgets. If this os npt the case then it's
a bug and I need to know.

When I meant it is fixed, I meant it is fixed in the main source code,
but I haven't prepared a release as I want to finish other features
I'm working on.

Cheers,
Andres

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Dylan Kelly  wrote:
> Hi Andres,
>    This small obstacle is easily avoided if one uses the QuteCsound live
> event controller to create a live event, and then copies the live event data
> into the text of the .csd file before saving and quitting.  In any case it's
> a simple work around, and it makes sense why QuteCsound would behave this
> way, as the live events do not change the text of the .csd.  The
> circumstance under which this occurs is if one quits QuteCsound without
> copying the live events into the score and saving3.
>    The live event editor is a great way to audition different several scores
> very quickly, and manage them in the same location, and it would be really
> nice to be able to save the data in the live event controller as as its own
> separate file.  A feature like this could add speed to the user experience,
> and it could also mean that users would be asked if they want to save the
> live events before quitting, which could add a little more safety for user
> data, and could also protect live event data in the event of a crash.
>    I might have missed the save feature if it exists, but in the
> QuteCsound-0.60-beta, which is what I'm using, it looks like the save
> feature only applies to the .csd file.
> Happy weekend,
> -Dylan Kelly
> ---------------------------------------
> Original E-mail
> From: Andres Cabrera 
> Date: 10/05/2010 03:50 PM
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Qutecsound Live event editor save feature
>
> Hi Dylan,
>
> It should be saved as part of your csd. Can you check again, and try
> to describe under what circumstances it's happening? (I seem to recall
> in the release version, the shortcut to save does not work from the
> live event sheets, so you need to save it from the menu, or from the
> editor). As you mention, changes in the live event editor do not mark
> a document as changed, so you have to remember to save, but this has
> also been addressed for the next release.
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Dylan Kelly wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> I am a Csound student with Dr. Boulanger at Berklee, and I have been using
>> the live event function to generate note lists.  I recently discovered
>> that
>> the live event feature does not have a save ability.  Maybe it could have
>> the option to save the notes into the .csd file, or as a separate text
>> file?
>>  Of course you can manually insert the text into your score, but without a
>> save feature for the live events, Qutecsound will not warn before it
>> quits,
>> clearing the live event editor.  This may cause some users to accidentally
>> lose data.
>> A save feature may not be a necessity, but it may help some users.
>> -Dylan Kelly
>> dskelly@berklee.net
>
>
>
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>
>
> Andrés
>
>
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> csound"
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>
>



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