In my musical youth I was a regular attender at symphony concerts
(Bournemouth Symphony Orcestra -- Constantin Silvestri) and enjoyed many
pieces.,  Only  two cpnposers had the "distinction" of my falling asleep
during a concert while playinf their pieces;one English amd one German.wrt
to the later I really cannot see the point of his maundering depression,
but otrhers seem to think he is the pinicle.  Strangely.my musocal hero,
Iannis Xenakis who I only met twice and got him an honori]ly Doctorate,
though he was the fount of music.
  Any suggestin sas who these two were?


Aesthetics are so individual...

==John ff



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Elgar (or possibly Vaughn Williams)

&

Bruckner

???

If so I'm with you all the way!!

P

On 4 January 2011 22:25,   wrote:
> In my musical youth I was a regular attender at symphony concerts
> (Bournemouth Symphony Orcestra -- Constantin Silvestri) and enjoyed many
> pieces.,  Only  two cpnposers had the "distinction" of my falling asleep
> during a concert while playinf their pieces;one English amd one German.wrt
> to the later I really cannot see the point of his maundering depression,
> but otrhers seem to think he is the pinicle.  Strangely.my musocal hero,
> Iannis Xenakis who I only met twice and got him an honori]ly Doctorate,
> though he was the fount of music.
>  Any suggestin sas who these two were?
>
>
> Aesthetics are so individual...
>
> ==John ff
>
>
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> Elgar (or possibly Vaughn Williams)
>
> &

Not an Elgar fan but it was not he.  Actually love VW
>
> Bruckner
>
> ???

a) He is Austrian
b( one of my loves

I suspect we are way apart on this

>
> If so I'm with you all the way!!
>
> P




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OK I didn't know he was Austrian, in fact I don't know much about him
and have always felt guilty for not giving his music some time.

P



On 5 January 2011 09:07,   wrote:
>> Elgar (or possibly Vaughn Williams)
>>
>> &
>
> Not an Elgar fan but it was not he.  Actually love VW
>>
>> Bruckner
>>
>> ???
>
> a) He is Austrian
> b( one of my loves
>
> I suspect we are way apart on this
>
>>
>> If so I'm with you all the way!!
>>
>> P
>
>
>
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I guess if Xenakis liked him then he can't have been one of the
romantics. I remember reading the interview with him and when asked
about Berg he said something like "his violin concerto is OK but he's
a romantic chap".

Dying to know! I can only hope that it's not Britten and Stockhausen
(I know I know he wasn't German, he was from Sirius).

P

On 5 January 2011 13:44, peiman khosravi  wrote:
> OK I didn't know he was Austrian, in fact I don't know much about him
> and have always felt guilty for not giving his music some time.
>
> P
>
>
>
> On 5 January 2011 09:07,   wrote:
>>> Elgar (or possibly Vaughn Williams)
>>>
>>> &
>>
>> Not an Elgar fan but it was not he.  Actually love VW
>>>
>>> Bruckner
>>>
>>> ???
>>
>> a) He is Austrian
>> b( one of my loves
>>
>> I suspect we are way apart on this
>>
>>>
>>> If so I'm with you all the way!!
>>>
>>> P
>>
>>
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On 5 Jan 2011, at 13:52, peiman khosravi wrote:

> I guess if Xenakis liked him then he can't have been one of the
> romantics.

According to Roger Woodward, his favourite composer was Brahms! I'll  
see if I can gig out the interview and post it somewhere. It was on  
BBC R3, before the UK première of Keqrops, so it's on a twenty-odd  
year old cassette somewhere. No promises about the audio quality (IF  
I can find it!)

Still remember listening to that concert, from the 1987(?) Proms:

Stravinsky - Agon
Xenakis - Keqrops
Stockhausen - Spiel
Birtwistle - The Triumph of Time

Those were the days…

At the moment, they're inflicting 13 days of Mozart - ONLY Mozart! -  
on us.

Joe

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Mhhhh Brahms. Yeahhhhh............ he had good taste. Probably my
favorite composer after Bach.

P



On 6 January 2011 14:41, Joe O'Farrell  wrote:
> On 5 Jan 2011, at 13:52, peiman khosravi wrote:
>
>> I guess if Xenakis liked him then he can't have been one of the
>> romantics.
>
> According to Roger Woodward, his favourite composer was Brahms! I'll see if
> I can gig out the interview and post it somewhere. It was on BBC R3, before
> the UK première of Keqrops, so it's on a twenty-odd year old cassette
> somewhere. No promises about the audio quality (IF I can find it!)
>
> Still remember listening to that concert, from the 1987(?) Proms:
>
> Stravinsky - Agon
> Xenakis - Keqrops
> Stockhausen - Spiel
> Birtwistle - The Triumph of Time
>
> Those were the days…
>
> At the moment, they're inflicting 13 days of Mozart - ONLY Mozart! - on us.
>
> Joe
>
> email:  info@joeofarrell.com
> web:    www.joeofarrell.com
>
> phone:  +353 85 788 8854
>
> skype:  joeofarrell
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>
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I heard Xenakis say that he was a follower of Brahms, at the Delph Music
Conference and festival in July 1992.
==John ff

> On 5 Jan 2011, at 13:52, peiman khosravi wrote:
>
>> I guess if Xenakis liked him then he can't have been one of the
>> romantics.
>
> According to Roger Woodward, his favourite composer was Brahms! I'll
> see if I can gig out the interview and post it somewhere. It was on
> BBC R3, before the UK première of Keqrops, so it's on a twenty-odd
> year old cassette somewhere. No promises about the audio quality (IF
> I can find it!)
>
> Still remember listening to that concert, from the 1987(?) Proms:
>
> Stravinsky - Agon
> Xenakis - Keqrops
> Stockhausen - Spiel
> Birtwistle - The Triumph of Time
>
> Those were the days…
>
> At the moment, they're inflicting 13 days of Mozart - ONLY Mozart! -
> on us.
>
> Joe
>
> email:	info@joeofarrell.com
> web:	www.joeofarrell.com
>
> phone:	+353 85 788 8854
>
> skype:	joeofarrell
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>
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On 06/01/2011 14:41, Joe O'Farrell wrote:
..
> Stravinsky - Agon
> Xenakis - Keqrops
> Stockhausen - Spiel
> Birtwistle - The Triumph of Time
>
> Those were the days…
>
> At the moment, they're inflicting 13 days of Mozart - ONLY Mozart! - on us.
>


Well, I like most of Mozart (though I don't like some of the ways he is 
performed) - the only real downside of this exercise for me is that I 
can't play "guess the composer". I only hope they do a similar feature 
on Haydn sometime, cos he wos better!

:-)

Richard Dobson



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On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:08, Richard Dobson wrote:

> Well, I like most of Mozart (though I don't like some of the ways  
> he is performed) - the only real downside of this exercise for me  
> is that I can't play "guess the composer". I only hope they do a  
> similar feature on Haydn sometime, cos he wos better!

One composer? 24 hours a day?? For 13 days???

How long before it just becomes aural wallpaper?

Can't say I'm a big fan of these single-composer fests that the  
powers that be on R3 seem to think are such a good idea. Context and  
contrast are important elements in any programming decisions, don't  
you think?

With you on Haydn, BTW! Though NOT like this, please…

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Re Haydn -- I've long felt this but haven't heard anyone
say it.  (He and Bartok were my favorites for awhile.)

Joe O'Farrell wrote:
> On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:08, Richard Dobson wrote:
> 
>> Well, I like most of Mozart (though I don't like some of the ways he 
>> is performed) - the only real downside of this exercise for me is that 
>> I can't play "guess the composer". I only hope they do a similar 
>> feature on Haydn sometime, cos he wos better!
> 
> One composer? 24 hours a day?? For 13 days???
> 
> How long before it just becomes aural wallpaper?
> 
> Can't say I'm a big fan of these single-composer fests that the powers 
> that be on R3 seem to think are such a good idea. Context and contrast 
> are important elements in any programming decisions, don't you think?
> 
> With you on Haydn, BTW! Though NOT like this, please…
> 
> Joe
> 
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Nor is it -- either/or -- for me.  That degree of preference would be 
absurd.


Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
> I love both Mozart and Haydn -- Mozart for his manic/depressive emotional
> depth (there are clouds of sadness even in his sunniest pieces---for me the
> eidos of this is the A major piano concerto, K.488) and Haydn for his proto
> Beethoven earthy gruffness and humor. Mozart reigns supreme in his piano
> concerti, the late symphonies, and operatic masterpieces. Haydn's symphonies
> and string quartets are all top notch, even the early ones.
> 
> It's not an eiher/or proposition for me!
> 
> AKJ
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:59 AM, PMA  wrote:
> 
>> Re Haydn -- I've long felt this but haven't heard anyone
>> say it.  (He and Bartok were my favorites for awhile.)
>>
>>
>> Joe O'Farrell wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 Jan 2011, at 15:08, Richard Dobson wrote:
>>>
>>>  Well, I like most of Mozart (though I don't like some of the ways he is
>>>> performed) - the only real downside of this exercise for me is that I can't
>>>> play "guess the composer". I only hope they do a similar feature on Haydn
>>>> sometime, cos he wos better!
>>>>
>>> One composer? 24 hours a day?? For 13 days???
>>>
>>> How long before it just becomes aural wallpaper?
>>>
>>> Can't say I'm a big fan of these single-composer fests that the powers
>>> that be on R3 seem to think are such a good idea. Context and contrast are
>>> important elements in any programming decisions, don't you think?
>>>
>>> With you on Haydn, BTW! Though NOT like this, please…
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
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On 07/01/2011 15:46, PMA wrote:
> Nor is it -- either/or -- for me. That degree of preference would be
> absurd.
>
>
  And of course I love both - the main aspect of chamber orchestra 
playing I really miss. I actually find the current Mozart fest on R3 
very interesting, not simply playing the famous masterworks but all the 
other twiddly bits we otherwise never know about much less hear. And the 
fact it transmits 24/7 does not mean you have to listen 24/7! Plenty of 
context and comparison there; just a little more subtle than the usuual 
Juke-Box character of R3. I do miss "Late Junction" though!

Richard Dobson



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