Has anyone thought about or even tried making a synthesizer based off the
phenomenon Sound-Color Synesthesia? What I'm talking about here is
essentially making music with colors. Am I able to prototype something like
this in Csound? I always hate asking that question, but I've yet to see
anything even remotely close to what I just described.

If anyone needs a more precise definition of Sound-Color Synesthesia, check
here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#Sound_.E2.86.92_color_synesthesia .

This has been fascinating me for quite a while now.



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Hello John,

That is certainly possible with Csound and some external programming
language like Processing.
Processing is very powerful in doing all sorts of graphical stuff, and it is
not too hard to learn.
You then could use OSC as an interface between Processing and Csound.

Richard



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Based on my wife's reporting of her experience with synesthesia, it
seems to be a highly individualized experience. Not everyone
associates the same colors with a given sound (and in her case,
specific tastes with a given color). So it seems to me that whatever
is done here it gets down to some sort of arbitrary mapping algorithm
that may or may not have much meaning to any specific individual who
experiences synesthesia.

--David Mooney

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM, John Colgrove  wrote:
> Has anyone thought about or even tried making a synthesizer based off the
> phenomenon Sound-Color Synesthesia? What I'm talking about here is
> essentially making music with colors. Am I able to prototype something like
> this in Csound? I always hate asking that question, but I've yet to see
> anything even remotely close to what I just described.
>
> If anyone needs a more precise definition of Sound-Color Synesthesia, check
> here
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia#Sound_.E2.86.92_color_synesthesia .
>
> This has been fascinating me for quite a while now.
>
>
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Well, there are 60 documented forms of synesthesia. I'm just narrowing it
down to the most appropriate one. According to the higher members of the
American Synesthesia Association (whom I asked), plus in books I've read on
sound color synesthesia, most people with sound color synesthesia associate
the same colors more commonly than you think. In many cases the associated
color is still the same, but it's usually a similar shade thereof.

For example, let's say, to keep it simple, people associate a sine wave with
a bright red color. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that's what it is, but it's
for sake of argument. Everyone will essentially see something different, but
it will most of the time be a similar shade of bright red.

I know the hint there is most of the time, but I'm willing to go the extra
mile and just take a chance, but first comes heavy research to make sure I
get it as accurately as possible.


David Mooney wrote
> 
> Based on my wife's reporting of her experience with synesthesia, it
> seems to be a highly individualized experience. Not everyone
> associates the same colors with a given sound (and in her case,
> specific tastes with a given color). So it seems to me that whatever
> is done here it gets down to some sort of arbitrary mapping algorithm
> that may or may not have much meaning to any specific individual who
> experiences synesthesia.




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Peiman, all these titles are great and useful to my current project ... thanks so much for sharing

John

Hi John,

Just out of curiosity, what is your project about if you don't mind me asking?

Best,
Peiman

On 12 August 2012 22:29, J Clements <jclements77@gmail.com> wrote:

Peiman, all these titles are great and useful to my current project ... thanks so much for sharing

John

On Aug 12, 2012 5:16 PM, "peiman khosravi" <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

I forgot this http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Meaning-Body-Aesthetics-Understanding/dp/0226401928

Not about synesthesia per se but discusses cognition as inherently multimodal.

P

On 12 August 2012 21:58, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd recommend this book. http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=10114

Stephen Handel's Perceptual Coherence is also a very good source.

If after reading these you still want to embark on the project then of course Csound is a a good choice.

Best,
Peiman

On 12 August 2012 20:55, John Colgrove <alpha.omega23@ymail.com> wrote:

Well, there are 60 documented forms of synesthesia. I'm just narrowing it
down to the most appropriate one. According to the higher members of the
American Synesthesia Association (whom I asked), plus in books I've read on
sound color synesthesia, most people with sound color synesthesia associate
the same colors more commonly than you think. In many cases the associated
color is still the same, but it's usually a similar shade thereof.

For example, let's say, to keep it simple, people associate a sine wave with
a bright red color. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that's what it is, but it's
for sake of argument. Everyone will essentially see something different, but
it will most of the time be a similar shade of bright red.

I know the hint there is most of the time, but I'm willing to go the extra
mile and just take a chance, but first comes heavy research to make sure I
get it as accurately as possible.


David Mooney wrote

>
> Based on my wife's reporting of her experience with synesthesia, it
> seems to be a highly individualized experience. Not everyone
> associates the same colors with a given sound (and in her case,
> specific tastes with a given color). So it seems to me that whatever
> is done here it gets down to some sort of arbitrary mapping algorithm
> that may or may not have much meaning to any specific individual who
> experiences synesthesia.

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^{The term ‘cognitive fluidity’ is used to describe the connection between different cognitive domains (capacity of metaphorical and cross-domain mental processing) that characterises the modern human mind (a fluid rather than a modular mind). This ability is thought to have historically led to the emergence of art and religion somewhere in the time-period between 60,000-30,000 years ago.  Cognitive fluidity can, for instance, be observed in the ‘anthropomorphism’ and ‘totemism’ of the Paleolithic cave-paintings (half human, half animal mythological figures), the mental conception of which, according to Mithen, entails “fluidity between social and natural history intelligence”. Mithen, Steven, The Prehistory of the Mind, Phoenix (1998), pp. 170-210.}

Just want to say that it appears they have a new version of The Handbook of
Multisensory Processing. I don't know much about it though. Here is a link:
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Handbook-Multisensory-Processing/dp/0262017121/ref=pd_sim_b_2

Also, for those interested in Sound-Color Synesthesia here are some books on
Synesthesia in general.

http://www.amazon.com/Synaesthesia-Strangest-Thing-John-Harrison/dp/0192632450/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1345518848&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Wednesday-Indigo-Blue-Discovering-Synesthesia/dp/0262516705/ref=pd_sim_b_1

http://www.amazon.com/Man-Tasted-Shapes-Richard-Cytowic/dp/0907845436/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342890687&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Sense-Synesthesia-Science-Leonardo/dp/0262220814/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342890682&sr=1-1


peiman wrote
> 
> I forgot this
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Meaning-Body-Aesthetics-Understanding/dp/0226401928
> 
> Not about synesthesia per se but discusses cognition as inherently
> multimodal.
> 
> P
> 
> On 12 August 2012 21:58, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@> wrote:
> 
>> I'd recommend this book.
>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=10114
>>
>> Stephen Handel's Perceptual Coherence is also a very good source.
>>
>> If after reading these you still want to embark on the project then of
>> course Csound is a a good choice.
>>
>> Best,
>> Peiman
>>
>>
>> On 12 August 2012 20:55, John Colgrove <alpha.omega23@> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, there are 60 documented forms of synesthesia. I'm just narrowing
>>> it
>>> down to the most appropriate one. According to the higher members of the
>>> American Synesthesia Association (whom I asked), plus in books I've read
>>> on
>>> sound color synesthesia, most people with sound color synesthesia
>>> associate
>>> the same colors more commonly than you think. In many cases the
>>> associated
>>> color is still the same, but it's usually a similar shade thereof.
>>>
>>> For example, let's say, to keep it simple, people associate a sine wave
>>> with
>>> a bright red color. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that's what it is, but
>>> it's
>>> for sake of argument. Everyone will essentially see something different,
>>> but
>>> it will most of the time be a similar shade of bright red.
>>>
>>> I know the hint there is most of the time, but I'm willing to go the
>>> extra
>>> mile and just take a chance, but first comes heavy research to make sure
>>> I
>>> get it as accurately as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Mooney wrote
>>> >
>>> > Based on my wife's reporting of her experience with synesthesia, it
>>> > seems to be a highly individualized experience. Not everyone
>>> > associates the same colors with a given sound (and in her case,
>>> > specific tastes with a given color). So it seems to me that whatever
>>> > is done here it gets down to some sort of arbitrary mapping algorithm
>>> > that may or may not have much meaning to any specific individual who
>>> > experiences synesthesia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Thank you John!

John Clements


On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:24 PM, John Colgrove  wrote:

> Just want to say that it appears they have a new version of The Handbook of
> Multisensory Processing. I don't know much about it though. Here is a link:
> http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Handbook-Multisensory-Processing/dp/0262017121/ref=pd_sim_b_2
> 
> Also, for those interested in Sound-Color Synesthesia here are some books on
> Synesthesia in general.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Synaesthesia-Strangest-Thing-John-Harrison/dp/0192632450/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1345518848&sr=1-1
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Wednesday-Indigo-Blue-Discovering-Synesthesia/dp/0262516705/ref=pd_sim_b_1
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Man-Tasted-Shapes-Richard-Cytowic/dp/0907845436/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342890687&sr=1-1
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Sense-Synesthesia-Science-Leonardo/dp/0262220814/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342890682&sr=1-1
> 
> 
> peiman wrote
>> 
>> I forgot this
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Meaning-Body-Aesthetics-Understanding/dp/0226401928
>> 
>> Not about synesthesia per se but discusses cognition as inherently
>> multimodal.
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> On 12 August 2012 21:58, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd recommend this book.
>>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=10114
>>> 
>>> Stephen Handel's Perceptual Coherence is also a very good source.
>>> 
>>> If after reading these you still want to embark on the project then of
>>> course Csound is a a good choice.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Peiman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12 August 2012 20:55, John Colgrove <alpha.omega23@> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, there are 60 documented forms of synesthesia. I'm just narrowing
>>>> it
>>>> down to the most appropriate one. According to the higher members of the
>>>> American Synesthesia Association (whom I asked), plus in books I've read
>>>> on
>>>> sound color synesthesia, most people with sound color synesthesia
>>>> associate
>>>> the same colors more commonly than you think. In many cases the
>>>> associated
>>>> color is still the same, but it's usually a similar shade thereof.
>>>> 
>>>> For example, let's say, to keep it simple, people associate a sine wave
>>>> with
>>>> a bright red color. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that's what it is, but
>>>> it's
>>>> for sake of argument. Everyone will essentially see something different,
>>>> but
>>>> it will most of the time be a similar shade of bright red.
>>>> 
>>>> I know the hint there is most of the time, but I'm willing to go the
>>>> extra
>>>> mile and just take a chance, but first comes heavy research to make sure
>>>> I
>>>> get it as accurately as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> David Mooney wrote
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on my wife's reporting of her experience with synesthesia, it
>>>>> seems to be a highly individualized experience. Not everyone
>>>>> associates the same colors with a given sound (and in her case,
>>>>> specific tastes with a given color). So it seems to me that whatever
>>>>> is done here it gets down to some sort of arbitrary mapping algorithm
>>>>> that may or may not have much meaning to any specific individual who
>>>>> experiences synesthesia.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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