hi,

Is there any free ((or cheap) server for os x that could show in settings->audio output, so that any sound regardless where it comes,  can be routed to the server and over lan to win 7? I've spent all the day building pulseaudio and esound and iceCast etc. Either they just don't build or work. I have iRapp, which I used   via RDP, but reordering mac mini monitor and using synergy, it's useless. iRapp audio server shows as a possible output, so it's possible to do the same with some other program.

Csound is probably not a problem, it has a network capability, which I've not tried yet because of getting mountain lion, several libs from framework can't  be loaded, need to rebuild csound. On lion it was quite easy, so hopefully on mountain lion (mountain lion is a smaller cat)  too.

thanks

-matti

Have you tried jack?

On 8/20/12, Matti Koskinen  wrote:
> hi,
>
> Is there any free ((or cheap) server for os x that could show in
> settings->audio output, so that any sound regardless where it comes,  can be
> routed to the server and over lan to win 7? I've spent all the day building
> pulseaudio and esound and iceCast etc. Either they just don't build or work.
> I have iRapp, which I used   via RDP, but reordering mac mini monitor and
> using synergy, it's useless. iRapp audio server shows as a possible output,
> so it's possible to do the same with some other program.
>
> Csound is probably not a problem, it has a network capability, which I've
> not tried yet because of getting mountain lion, several libs from framework
> can't  be loaded, need to rebuild csound. On lion it was quite easy, so
> hopefully on mountain lion (mountain lion is a smaller cat)  too.
>
> thanks
>
> -matti
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>
>

On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Adam Puckett  wrote:

> Have you tried jack?

only jack+jackpilot and they don't offer at least in my version networking. Do you know what (preferably  prebuilt) version to get?

thanks

-matti

Maybe this will help you Matti:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/openmixer/manual/using_netjack/netjack-under-osx



John Clements


On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Matti Koskinen  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried jack?
> 
> only jack+jackpilot and they don't offer at least in my version networking. Do you know what (preferably  prebuilt) version to get?
> 
> thanks
> 
> -matti
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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> 

Matti, you may have seen this also-  I have had success streaming via my LAN between win and Mac with netjack.

http://jackaudio.org/netjack

John Clements


On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Matti Koskinen  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried jack?
> 
> only jack+jackpilot and they don't offer at least in my version networking. Do you know what (preferably  prebuilt) version to get?
> 
> thanks
> 
> -matti
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

I tried this with a student, from one room to another. It works but with many drop-outs.

Best,
P

On 21 August 2012 00:20, John Clements <jclements77@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe this will help you Matti:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/openmixer/manual/using_netjack/netjack-under-osx



John Clements

On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Matti Koskinen <mjkoskin@kolumbus.fi> wrote:

>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Adam Puckett <adotsdothmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried jack?
>
> only jack+jackpilot and they don't offer at least in my version networking. Do you know what (preferably  prebuilt) version to get?
>
> thanks
>
> -matti
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>


Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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Now I know why I never had luck with jack. I once even had the qjackctl, but it never started jackd, the ccrma-page is more than helpful. It shows as jackd /usr/local/bin/jackd and I just tried the default. That never worked. Now jack starts but still can't see any outputs or inputs. It's getting late here, so I'll start fresh tomorrow.

many thanks to all!

-matti

Have you tried the jack-based network audio, like netjack, etc?
Csound has its net opcodes too, you could try them.

Victor

On 20 Aug 2012, at 23:47, Matti Koskinen  wrote:

> hi,
> 
> Is there any free ((or cheap) server for os x that could show in settings->audio output, so that any sound regardless where it comes,  can be routed to the server and over lan to win 7? I've spent all the day building pulseaudio and esound and iceCast etc. Either they just don't build or work. I have iRapp, which I used   via RDP, but reordering mac mini monitor and using synergy, it's useless. iRapp audio server shows as a possible output, so it's possible to do the same with some other program.
> 
> Csound is probably not a problem, it has a network capability, which I've not tried yet because of getting mountain lion, several libs from framework can't  be loaded, need to rebuild csound. On lion it was quite easy, so hopefully on mountain lion (mountain lion is a smaller cat)  too.
> 
> thanks
> 
> -matti
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Jack works, but what a clicking is needed. Network audio is unusable,  
due to jack_netsource, it prints infinitely send:no error messages, and 
causing great amount of xruns. Pressing play on jackControl presses it 
also on osx qjackctl, so net is up.

I have a cheap usb 5.1 audio card, which shows in jack as having 6 
outputs. Now the interesting thing. Tried csound using jack on win7 and 
it occurs in connect-window and then disappears, when csound is done.  
So so far so good. I tried connecting system inputs to multiple outputs 
and they are connected, so six-channel output should be possible.
Is it possible in csound to use 6-ch? Creating some spinning sounds 
would be interesting. Are there any (there are) guides or algorithms how 
to mix and hack 2-ch recorded or sampled sounds to multi-channel? 
Ambisonics was something like this I think, recalling from many years ago.

thanks,

-matti

>
> I have a cheap usb 5.1 audio card, which shows in jack as having 6
> outputs. Now the interesting thing. Tried csound using jack on win7 and
> it occurs in connect-window and then disappears, when csound is done.
> So so far so good. I tried connecting system inputs to multiple outputs
> and they are connected, so six-channel output should be possible.
> Is it possible in csound to use 6-ch?

No problem with 6 channels; just set nchnls=6 and write using outch or
whatever

You should be able to connect directly with no clicking by passing the correct destinations to -odac and -iadc.

With jack you could potentially use as many csound channels as you'd like and connect them to different destinations. So if two 6-channel soundcards show up on Jack, you could send say 6 channels to one and 6 to another, with a 12-channel csound output.

Victor
On 21 Aug 2012, at 13:51, Matti Koskinen wrote:

> Jack works, but what a clicking is needed. Network audio is unusable,  due to jack_netsource, it prints infinitely send:no error messages, and causing great amount of xruns. Pressing play on jackControl presses it also on osx qjackctl, so net is up.
> 
> I have a cheap usb 5.1 audio card, which shows in jack as having 6 outputs. Now the interesting thing. Tried csound using jack on win7 and it occurs in connect-window and then disappears, when csound is done.  So so far so good. I tried connecting system inputs to multiple outputs and they are connected, so six-channel output should be possible.
> Is it possible in csound to use 6-ch? Creating some spinning sounds would be interesting. Are there any (there are) guides or algorithms how to mix and hack 2-ch recorded or sampled sounds to multi-channel? Ambisonics was something like this I think, recalling from many years ago.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -matti
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie