Contining this thread...

http://www.nabble.com/Victor%27s-csndgui-toolkit-for-Python-%28was-2006-thread---now-2008%29-tt16000828.html

Thanks Adam / Ugur...

Ive just skimmed through the first 100 pages of "Notes from the Metalevel" &
it's possibly a gross exercise in self flattery but i see a lot of parallels
between the use & design of common music as discussed in this book & what
i'm trying to do with Parseval...at least certain elements of it. (mind you
i could say that about Athena, & others too...)

So i can see myself exploring & potentially using Common Music further, & if
i have any problems getting set up & get desparate maybe Eduardo / Ugur /
Adam et al can give me some advice (Unfortunately the Metalevel Text says
"refer the accompanying CD" - but i think i can work out enough to get going
- particulary with your helpful posts) - is there a Common Music List?

My general observations & concerns going forward therefore are more to do
with wishing to use Common Music as a score analysis & database tool, rather
than necessarily generating material purely from defining pitch sets &
rhythms & hitting the "crunch" / gauss / lorenz attractor button.

One of the things I currently get using Parseval's txt based "tracker" that
i don't get anywhere else goes something like this..

I can work with Pitch Sets to create chords, voicepaths &/or 2-dimensional
"patterns" / motifs / & then start randomly selecting  PC set combinations
from my Pitch Class Master Collection (defined for that composition), &
Parseval says things like: 

"I select < 4-16 i t=3 > & u used this already in System 4 Bar 3, as a chord
/ voicepath etc... so now try something else with it !"

So GUI wise (for example) I would like to have something like a piano roll i
guess, but just so i could lay out the voice leading & clearly label the
parts & or subsets of interest, & then publish that as analysis to the
"PatternBook", as well as a Parseval ".txt tracker" template (at that is
still giving me a number of other spin offs other than simply "custom score
syntax" - a whole polyphony management system for one... a monophonic voice
designed to work with gk & ga controllers can be rendered to create a
polyphonic performance for example, the major benefit of the "render first,
playback later" approach so far...the other main benefit is the capacity for
notes to be randomised but keep there associated cc messages aligned to
their new initialisation times, despite being delivered from global a or k
rate controllers...)

Anyway, i digress - my Common Music Q's are:

1) can it be used in this responsive, "databasing & analysis" kind of way,
or is it ultimately more of a generative tool?

2) is it REALLY the be-all & end-all for generically organising
compositional data in a way that resides outside of the domains of csound
.sco , MIDI, or other "realisation" formats? (the initial response from you
guys however are fairly flattering - i wrote this away on my "non crashing"
PC...)

Because if it is, & it's a malleable & linkable tool in its own right,
offering quick access to score creation GUI tools in the process (not
looking so positive, but imminent?) then i think i want to begin to use it
as a bridge between some of the things im trying to do with Parseval & the
"outside" world.... plus i'm sure i'll get something out of it too ; ) (&
hopefully a lot more than i first thought...)

Although there is no Python/ Lisp - Common Music API per se?? Creating
significant excahanges of data between the 2 shouldn't be an issue. Michael
Goggins i think once again that's screaming out for some input from you if
you have any to give...

The sad news is i could go on... Oh to have had a proper musical education!
; ) 

Anyway for the mo back to notes from the metalevel...






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