The PYTHONPATH environment variable should specify the complete path to the 
directory containing csnd.pyd, in addition to whatever used to be in the 
PYTHONPATH variable.

This is assuming that you want to use Python features of Csound AND that you 
already have installed Python 2.5.

If you do not want to use the Python features, remove csnd.dll, _csnd.pyd, 
CsoundAC.pyd, _CsoundAC.pyd, and py.dll from your Csound installation.

The warning messages are only WARNING messages, they are not ERROR 
messsages. They do not mean Csound will not work. If they meant Csound will 
not work they would be ERROR messages.

I would prefer it if these messages were not even printed, but other Csound 
developers prefer them to be printed.

The 5.08 Windows installer attempts to detect if Python is installed on your 
system, and to give you a choice whether or not to install the Python 
features.

Please let me know if you do, or do not, have Python 2.5 installed on your 
computer.

Hope this helps,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Demers" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta


> The Python path should be write like this:
>
> PYTHONPATH= ;C:\Program Files\Csound\bin
>
> If C is where your Program Files is...
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Uğur Güney" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:17 AM
> To: 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta
>
>> # Hi,
>> # I'm experiencing a problem under XP, but I am not sure that it is
>> specific to the version 5.08.
>> # After the installation (and restarting the computer) I have all the
>> system variables set correctly: CSOUNDRC, OPCODEDIR64, Path,
>> RAWWAVE_PATH etc. I moved away the "py.dll" from the csound\plugins64
>> folder. (This is said in the manual that one should remove that file
>> for not getting the python not found error.)
>> # But I am always getting two warnings:
>>
>> WARNING: could not open library 'I:\Csound5.08\plugins64\csnd.dll' (-1)
>> and
>> This application has failed to start because python25.dll was not 
>> found...
>>
>> # First one does not affect the sound output. Csound renders normally
>> and I am sure that the file is there. Is csnd.dll not very important?
>> :-)
>> # And I have PYHTONPATH = csound\bin in my system variables.
>> # Do you have any idea why this is happening?
>> # Have a nice day!
>> -ugur-
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Anthony Kozar
>>  wrote:
>>> Right.  I did not update the front page because it was suggested on the
>>> developer list that we only announce the beta release to the mailing 
>>> lists
>>> and ask people to test it for us.  The page will be updated when the 
>>> final
>>> non-beta version of 5.08 is released.
>>>
>>> Anthony Kozar
>>> mailing-lists-1001 AT anthonykozar DOT net
>>> http://anthonykozar.net/
>>
>>
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Hi Uğur, I don't know how long you've been on this list but this python 
issue pops up almost every time a newbie tries to install Csound on 
windows. As a result I estimate that most new Csound users on windows 
just give up on the software and try something else. You make some good 
suggestions. The easiest solution and one which has been suggested 
before is to simply bundle all the python opcodes into a separate 
folder. If users wish to use them then they can install python 
themselves and place the files into the appropriate folder. I dislike 
the way Csound appears to have a dependency on python in windows and 
don't see why new users should even need to see the word Python in a 
Csound installer.

Rory.



Uğur Güney wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>>  If you do not want to use the Python features, remove csnd.dll, _csnd.pyd,
>>  CsoundAC.pyd, _CsoundAC.pyd, and py.dll from your Csound installation.
> 

+1, one more time (sigh)

Stef

Rory Walsh a écrit :
> Hi Uğur, I don't know how long you've been on this list but this python 
> issue pops up almost every time a newbie tries to install Csound on 
> windows. As a result I estimate that most new Csound users on windows 
> just give up on the software and try something else. You make some good 
> suggestions. The easiest solution and one which has been suggested 
> before is to simply bundle all the python opcodes into a separate 
> folder. If users wish to use them then they can install python 
> themselves and place the files into the appropriate folder. I dislike 
> the way Csound appears to have a dependency on python in windows and 
> don't see why new users should even need to see the word Python in a 
> Csound installer.
> 
> Rory.

I completely agree - and am so frustrated by the fact that Windows  
users are having such a hard time getting the program to install and  
run!

Beginners absolutely quit.

And it's incredibly sad.....

Most of my students at Berklee are MacUsers, and I am so grateful  
that Victor has such a simple installer for them.... it just works!
(although it would be even better for them if MacCsound was Intel.)

-dB

On Mar 15, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Rory Walsh wrote:

> Hi Uğur, I don't know how long you've been on this list but this  
> python issue pops up almost every time a newbie tries to install  
> Csound on windows. As a result I estimate that most new Csound  
> users on windows just give up on the software and try something  
> else. You make some good suggestions. The easiest solution and one  
> which has been suggested before is to simply bundle all the python  
> opcodes into a separate folder. If users wish to use them then they  
> can install python themselves and place the files into the  
> appropriate folder. I dislike the way Csound appears to have a  
> dependency on python in windows and don't see why new users should  
> even need to see the word Python in a Csound installer.
>
> Rory.
>
>
>
> Uğur Güney wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Michael Gogins  
>>  wrote:
>>>  If you do not want to use the Python features, remove csnd.dll,  
>>> _csnd.pyd,
>>>  CsoundAC.pyd, _CsoundAC.pyd, and py.dll from your Csound  
>>> installation.
>
>
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> "unsubscribe csound"

The windows installers do work well and get better with each release. 
For me however they're more like advanced installers for users who 
already know something about Csound. I can only ask again that all 
python opcodes be moved to a special folder from which users can then 
install them if they wish. The 'install python' was a nice feature but I 
don't think Python should come into the equation at all.

Rory.



Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
> I completely agree - and am so frustrated by the fact that Windows users 
> are having such a hard time getting the program to install and run!
> 
> Beginners absolutely quit.
> 
> And it's incredibly sad.....
> 
> Most of my students at Berklee are MacUsers, and I am so grateful that 
> Victor has such a simple installer for them.... it just works!
> (although it would be even better for them if MacCsound was Intel.)
> 
> -dB
> 
> On Mar 15, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Rory Walsh wrote:
> 
>> Hi Uğur, I don't know how long you've been on this list but this 
>> python issue pops up almost every time a newbie tries to install 
>> Csound on windows. As a result I estimate that most new Csound users 
>> on windows just give up on the software and try something else. You 
>> make some good suggestions. The easiest solution and one which has 
>> been suggested before is to simply bundle all the python opcodes into 
>> a separate folder. If users wish to use them then they can install 
>> python themselves and place the files into the appropriate folder. I 
>> dislike the way Csound appears to have a dependency on python in 
>> windows and don't see why new users should even need to see the word 
>> Python in a Csound installer.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>> Uğur Güney wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Michael Gogins  
>>> wrote:
>>>>  If you do not want to use the Python features, remove csnd.dll, 
>>>> _csnd.pyd,
>>>>  CsoundAC.pyd, _CsoundAC.pyd, and py.dll from your Csound installation.
>>
>>
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