It's the second point that I'm concerned about.  A license specified as a kind of footnote in the description of the piece isn't very apparent. By contrast, look at how explicit the license is on most web sites that serve CC content. Regardless, embedding the license in the file is a good idea.

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Gogins 
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:27:18 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Csound Music Archive

I think the bottom line is (a) the license must be acceptable to the contributor, and (b) it must be clearly visible to the listener/downloader.

I would also advise contributors to embed their copyright and license text into their soundfiles.

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
>From: Cesare Marilungo 
>Sent: Mar 25, 2008 3:04 PM
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Csound Music Archive
>
>Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
>> I like these suggestions too Michael ...
>> Maybe we can have links in the submissions page to the various Commons 
>> Licenses (and even recommendations)
>> - so that contributors can  jump to the pages and review the choices?
>>
>> - Cesare?  What do you think?
>Yes, we can put a link to creative commons. I don't know if it would be 
>better to force the choice among a set of licenses or just leave it up 
>to the user to specify it in the piece notes. In this way one can use 
>any kind of license (non necessarily one of the cc). Unless we want to 
>be able to search by license. It is needed?
>
>Best,
>
>-c.
>>
>> -dB
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>>> Two options would be acceptable to me.
>>>
>>> First, creative commons "Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives" 
>>> for everything. This is the most restrictive Creative Commons 
>>> license. It allows redistribution and non-commercial use, but no 
>>> commercial use and no derivative works.
>>>
>>> Second, license specified per upload by the contributor.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Michael Bechard 
>>>> Sent: Mar 25, 2008 1:52 PM
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Csound Music Archive
>>>>
>>>> What about licensing, etc?  It might be prudent to be explicit in 
>>>> this regard when said pieces are made available for download.  I 
>>>> would at least like the option of specifying a Creative Commons 
>>>> license for our works.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Bechard
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Dr. Richard Boulanger 
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:59:25 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Csound Music Archive
>>>>
>>>> If we can, I think we plan to support both...
>>>>
>>>> Imagine something like this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cSounds.com Csound Composition Archive/Library:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All pieces placed in an alphabetical list by the composer's last name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - maybe the letters are tabs that expand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> associated with each work would be fields where one can add 
>>>> information like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> composer name
>>>> contact info
>>>> title of composition
>>>> date of composition
>>>> duration of composition
>>>> program note
>>>> .csd
>>>> .mp3, ogg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Users could login and upload/update their info and add to the archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cSounds.com Csound Concert Hall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There might be a special option the future currator  to
>>>> go to the archive and select (check box) and number (number box)
>>>> some 6 - 10 pieces at a time - and these go into the Concert Hall 
>>>> Page - which is streamed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These concert pages would be archived as well - so that, if the 
>>>> curator get busy or
>>>> if someone comes along having missed some months or years, they can 
>>>> go back and listen
>>>> to previous concerts too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the Concert Hall Page there would be a few Fields where the 
>>>> curator could:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Title of Concert
>>>> Overview of Concert ("These are all remixes" "These are all granular 
>>>> pieces")
>>>> Curator Name
>>>> Dates of Concert Run
>>>> A Link to the Archive of past Concert Pages
>>>> A Button to Add this Concert to the Archive of past concert Pages
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
>>>> Sounds great!
>>>>
>>>> Is this in addition to the current pod cast and music forum on 
>>>> csounds.com or is it meant to replace them?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> Hello Jim, Michael and all Csounders,
>>>>
>>>> The webmaster at cSounds.com - Cesare Marilungo - and I have been
>>>> planning to add
>>>> *The Csound Concert Hall* section to cSounds.com since we started
>>>> with his new,
>>>> wonderful, and  very community-oriented design of cSounds.com.
>>>>
>>>> I have already given Cesare hundreds of Csound-based .mp3
>>>> compositions, songs, remixes to host there.
>>>> Plus, I have all the .csd files for these as well! (We might host
>>>> them as well - still considering.)
>>>>
>>>> Most of all we want to host ALL of your music too and make it
>>>> possible for you to add your music
>>>> to the archive.  (I purchased a ton more space from my webhost for
>>>> this purpose.)
>>>>
>>>> So, Cesare is in the process of building in the functionality and
>>>> openness right now.
>>>>
>>>> My thinking was to curate and stream monthly concerts showcasing
>>>> different aesthetics and
>>>> techniques, but to have the entire collection there in the database
>>>> for you to select from and
>>>> upload to your mp3 players and computers as well.
>>>>
>>>> The Csound Concert Hall is coming soon...  Until then, please post
>>>> your Csound Compositions,
>>>> Instruments, Ideas, .csds, etc.... in our new Community Forums -
>>>> under the appropriate sections:
>>>>
>>>> http://csounds.com/community
>>>>
>>>> -dB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Michael Rhoades wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a central repository would be great as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have a web site for my Csound music but I assure you more than
>>>>> just my
>>>>> friends listen to my compositions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> www.perceptionfactory.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/22/08 8:53 PM, "Jim Aikin"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In looking around today for music I could listen to that was created
>>>>>> using Csound, I didn't find much. This page
>>>>>> (http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2005/07/csound-internet-
>>>>>> concerts.html)
>>>>>> looks promising -- but the links there, which point back to items on
>>>>>> csounds.com, are dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Googling for "csound compositions," I find things like this
>>>>>> (http://www.mail-archive.com/linart@li.org/msg00421.html), which is a
>>>>>> nine-year-old mail message from a Paul Winkler. It has a link to a
>>>>>> site
>>>>>> that's described as being "under construction." After nine years?
>>>>>> Not a
>>>>>> good sign.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also found a page of compositions by Dr. B's students, which is the
>>>>>> type of thing I'm looking for ... but are his students the only ones
>>>>>> composing in Csound? And while that page is on the csounds.com
>>>>>> site, it
>>>>>> doesn't seem to be visible on the home page. What's up with that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure a lot of people are using Csound. Is it that no one is
>>>>>> producing finished work with it? Or are the composers all tucking
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> work away on their own websites, where no one but their friends
>>>>>> can find it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd love to see a central repository of great music that folks who
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> curious about Csound could explore. Does anyone else think this
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> a good thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Jim Aikin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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