What I'd like is for these messages to be *gone*.

Actually, what would likely satisfy most users is for the WARNING messages 
(and WARNING is a good enough title for me) - and much of the rest of the 
default initial messages? -  to be subject to a command-line flag that would 
turn them off by default.

That way, the more technically inclined could routinely turn them on for 
their edification, and the rest of us proceed with a more frequent smile on 
our faces.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Demers" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta


For my part, I still prefer WARNING instead of INFORMATION...

/mdd

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From: "Michael Gogins" 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta

> How about "Information" messages, since that is what this really is?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Hunkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta
>
>
>>I would prefer that the WARNING messages not be printed either.
>>
>> This issue has been discussed earlier. The point is that for the average 
>> user, the messages are misunderstood, and are thus misleading and 
>> frustrating.
>>
>> Again, I vote for their elimination.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:45 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta
>>
>>
>> The PYTHONPATH environment variable should specify the complete path to 
>> the
>> directory containing csnd.pyd, in addition to whatever used to be in the
>> PYTHONPATH variable.
>>
>> This is assuming that you want to use Python features of Csound AND that 
>> you
>> already have installed Python 2.5.
>>
>> If you do not want to use the Python features, remove csnd.dll, 
>> _csnd.pyd,
>> CsoundAC.pyd, _CsoundAC.pyd, and py.dll from your Csound installation.
>>
>> The warning messages are only WARNING messages, they are not ERROR
>> messsages. They do not mean Csound will not work. If they meant Csound 
>> will
>> not work they would be ERROR messages.
>>
>> I would prefer it if these messages were not even printed, but other 
>> Csound
>> developers prefer them to be printed.
>>
>> The 5.08 Windows installer attempts to detect if Python is installed on 
>> your
>> system, and to give you a choice whether or not to install the Python
>> features.
>>
>> Please let me know if you do, or do not, have Python 2.5 installed on 
>> your
>> computer.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marc Demers" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:11 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta
>>
>>
>>> The Python path should be write like this:
>>>
>>> PYTHONPATH= ;C:\Program Files\Csound\bin
>>>
>>> If C is where your Program Files is...
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Uğur Güney" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:17 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Csound 5.08Beta
>>>
>>>> # Hi,
>>>> # I'm experiencing a problem under XP, but I am not sure that it is
>>>> specific to the version 5.08.
>>>> # After the installation (and restarting the computer) I have all the
>>>> system variables set correctly: CSOUNDRC, OPCODEDIR64, Path,
>>>> RAWWAVE_PATH etc. I moved away the "py.dll" from the csound\plugins64
>>>> folder. (This is said in the manual that one should remove that file
>>>> for not getting the python not found error.)
>>>> # But I am always getting two warnings:
>>>>
>>>> WARNING: could not open library 'I:\Csound5.08\plugins64\csnd.dll' (-1)
>>>> and
>>>> This application has failed to start because python25.dll was not 
>>>> found...
>>>>
>>>> # First one does not affect the sound output. Csound renders normally
>>>> and I am sure that the file is there. Is csnd.dll not very important?
>>>> :-)
>>>> # And I have PYHTONPATH = csound\bin in my system variables.
>>>> # Do you have any idea why this is happening?
>>>> # Have a nice day!
>>>> -ugur-
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Anthony Kozar
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Right.  I did not update the front page because it was suggested on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> developer list that we only announce the beta release to the mailing 
>>>>> lists
>>>>> and ask people to test it for us.  The page will be updated when the 
>>>>> final
>>>>> non-beta version of 5.08 is released.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Kozar
>>>>> mailing-lists-1001 AT anthonykozar DOT net
>>>>> http://anthonykozar.net/
>>>>
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Art Hunkins wrote on 3/15/08 2:59 PM:

> What I'd like is for these messages to be *gone*.

The messages are necessary for understanding why a particular opcode may not
be available.

> Actually, what would likely satisfy most users is for the WARNING messages
> (and WARNING is a good enough title for me) - and much of the rest of the
> default initial messages? -  to be subject to a command-line flag that would
> turn them off by default.

John ff. already added some experimental code that makes the plugin warnings
subject to the -m flag.  It appears that this code will not be part of the
5.08 release though.  I would expect it to be finished for 5.09.

Anthony Kozar
mailing-lists-1001 AT anthonykozar DOT net
http://anthonykozar.net/