I believe this crashing is a bug that I have fixed in CVS and that will be 
available in Csound 5.08 beta Windows installers -- real soon now!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Demers" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: No Front End Works


> Hi Rory,
>
> I have the same problems than Victor...I have put Csound in the system 
> path and everything goes well execpt that Lettuce crash when we close 
> it...
>
> Regards,
>
> /mdd
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:51 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: No Front End Works
>
>> This all points to a problem with the Csound install. Can you check that 
>> the csound bin directory was added to the system path? Right click on my 
>> computer, go to advanced, hit system variables and check in there. If it 
>> is not there it should be. The installer should add it automatically.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Mooney/Maxine Heller wrote:
>>> Getting very frustrated here! Have been using an older 4.something 
>>> version of Csound with WCShell and it has worked flawlessly with good 
>>> results. Now I've spent two days trying to get ANY front end to work 
>>> with the current version of Csound with no luck. WCShell, which I 
>>> like--very direct, simple and to the point--will not run with the new 
>>> version.
>>>
>>> Csound is running fine from the command prompt, so I don't think it's a 
>>> csound installation problem.
>>> Winsound crashes without any useful message telling me why, as does 
>>> Csound5gui. Lettuce keeps telling me it's looking for files that are 
>>> clearly there (tried all combinations of "d" and "f" csound, "32" and 
>>> "64" versions of Lettuce, putting lettuce in its own directory, putting 
>>> it in csound\bin, etc.). csedit also couldn't locate files that are 
>>> definitely on the hard drive, then gave error messages concerning 
>>> incorrect registry info (an area I try to avoid). I don't really need a 
>>> bells and whistles front end like Blue or WinXound--just something that 
>>> will allow me to edit the files (orc, sco, csd) and quickly run csound. 
>>> Realtime is not a big issue. Right now I'm using using cseditor (which 
>>> is fine for editing) with a command prompt window open to run csound and 
>>> Adobe Audion to look at/hear the results. This works...but klunky.
>>>
>>> I'm using a stand alone computer running Windows XP Professional.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks--
>>>
>>> --David Mooney
>>>
>>>
>>> David Mooney:  dmooney@city-net.com
>>> Maxine Heller:  mheller@city-net.com
>>> Opaque Melodies:  www.city-net.com/~moko/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Thanks to all who replied. Looks the command line is the best option 
until 5.08 is ready, but I will look at the system path. Work 
intervenes, so it will be a few days.

--David Mooney

At 09:16 PM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
>I believe this crashing is a bug that I have fixed in CVS and that 
>will be available in Csound 5.08 beta Windows installers -- real soon now!
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Demers" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:42 PM
>Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: No Front End Works
>
>
>>Hi Rory,
>>
>>I have the same problems than Victor...I have put Csound in the 
>>system path and everything goes well execpt that Lettuce crash when 
>>we close it...
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>/mdd
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:51 PM
>>To: 
>>Subject: [Csnd] Re: No Front End Works
>>
>>>This all points to a problem with the Csound install. Can you 
>>>check that the csound bin directory was added to the system path? 
>>>Right click on my computer, go to advanced, hit system variables 
>>>and check in there. If it is not there it should be. The installer 
>>>should add it automatically.
>>>
>>>Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>David Mooney/Maxine Heller wrote:
>>>>Getting very frustrated here! Have been using an older 
>>>>4.something version of Csound with WCShell and it has worked 
>>>>flawlessly with good results. Now I've spent two days trying to 
>>>>get ANY front end to work with the current version of Csound with 
>>>>no luck. WCShell, which I like--very direct, simple and to the 
>>>>point--will not run with the new version.
>>>>
>>>>Csound is running fine from the command prompt, so I don't think 
>>>>it's a csound installation problem.
>>>>Winsound crashes without any useful message telling me why, as 
>>>>does Csound5gui. Lettuce keeps telling me it's looking for files 
>>>>that are clearly there (tried all combinations of "d" and "f" 
>>>>csound, "32" and "64" versions of Lettuce, putting lettuce in its 
>>>>own directory, putting it in csound\bin, etc.). csedit also 
>>>>couldn't locate files that are definitely on the hard drive, then 
>>>>gave error messages concerning incorrect registry info (an area I 
>>>>try to avoid). I don't really need a bells and whistles front end 
>>>>like Blue or WinXound--just something that will allow me to edit 
>>>>the files (orc, sco, csd) and quickly run csound. Realtime is not 
>>>>a big issue. Right now I'm using using cseditor (which is fine 
>>>>for editing) with a command prompt window open to run csound and 
>>>>Adobe Audion to look at/hear the results. This works...but klunky.
>>>>
>>>>I'm using a stand alone computer running Windows XP Professional.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks--
>>>>
>>>>--David Mooney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David Mooney:  dmooney@city-net.com
>>>>Maxine Heller:  mheller@city-net.com
>>>>Opaque Melodies:  www.city-net.com/~moko/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>"unsubscribe csound"
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David Mooney:  dmooney@city-net.com
Maxine Heller:  mheller@city-net.com
Opaque Melodies:  www.city-net.com/~moko/

You can also check out csound-X for emacs. I guess this pretty much lets 
you edit and run Csound from within emacs although I haven't ever used it.

Rory.


David Mooney/Maxine Heller wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied. Looks the command line is the best option 
> until 5.08 is ready, but I will look at the system path. Work 
> intervenes, so it will be a few days.
> 
> --David Mooney
> 
> At 09:16 PM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
>> I believe this crashing is a bug that I have fixed in CVS and that 
>> will be available in Csound 5.08 beta Windows installers -- real soon 
>> now!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Demers" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:42 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: No Front End Works
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I have the same problems than Victor...I have put Csound in the 
>>> system path and everything goes well execpt that Lettuce crash when 
>>> we close it...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> /mdd
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:51 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: No Front End Works
>>>
>>>> This all points to a problem with the Csound install. Can you check 
>>>> that the csound bin directory was added to the system path? Right 
>>>> click on my computer, go to advanced, hit system variables and check 
>>>> in there. If it is not there it should be. The installer should add 
>>>> it automatically.
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Mooney/Maxine Heller wrote:
>>>>> Getting very frustrated here! Have been using an older 4.something 
>>>>> version of Csound with WCShell and it has worked flawlessly with 
>>>>> good results. Now I've spent two days trying to get ANY front end 
>>>>> to work with the current version of Csound with no luck. WCShell, 
>>>>> which I like--very direct, simple and to the point--will not run 
>>>>> with the new version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Csound is running fine from the command prompt, so I don't think 
>>>>> it's a csound installation problem.
>>>>> Winsound crashes without any useful message telling me why, as does 
>>>>> Csound5gui. Lettuce keeps telling me it's looking for files that 
>>>>> are clearly there (tried all combinations of "d" and "f" csound, 
>>>>> "32" and "64" versions of Lettuce, putting lettuce in its own 
>>>>> directory, putting it in csound\bin, etc.). csedit also couldn't 
>>>>> locate files that are definitely on the hard drive, then gave error 
>>>>> messages concerning incorrect registry info (an area I try to 
>>>>> avoid). I don't really need a bells and whistles front end like 
>>>>> Blue or WinXound--just something that will allow me to edit the 
>>>>> files (orc, sco, csd) and quickly run csound. Realtime is not a big 
>>>>> issue. Right now I'm using using cseditor (which is fine for 
>>>>> editing) with a command prompt window open to run csound and Adobe 
>>>>> Audion to look at/hear the results. This works...but klunky.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a stand alone computer running Windows XP Professional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>
>>>>> --David Mooney
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Mooney:  dmooney@city-net.com
>>>>> Maxine Heller:  mheller@city-net.com
>>>>> Opaque Melodies:  www.city-net.com/~moko/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
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> David Mooney:  dmooney@city-net.com
> Maxine Heller:  mheller@city-net.com
> Opaque Melodies:  www.city-net.com/~moko/
> 
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Rory Walsh a écrit :
> You can also check out csound-X for emacs. I guess this pretty much lets 
> you edit and run Csound from within emacs although I haven't ever used it.

yes, but this is probably overkill :)
WinXsound seems fine...

Stef (csound-x author btw)

Not if one already know emacs? After speaking with John ffitch about it 
at the LAC and listening to Victor rave on about it for years I think I 
may finally try it out. Watch this space!

Rory.


Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
> Rory Walsh a écrit :
>> You can also check out csound-X for emacs. I guess this pretty much 
>> lets you edit and run Csound from within emacs although I haven't ever 
>> used it.
> 
> yes, but this is probably overkill :)
> WinXsound seems fine...
> 
> Stef (csound-x author btw)
> 
> 
> 
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Rory Walsh wrote:
> Not if one already know emacs? After speaking with John ffitch about 
> it at the LAC and listening to Victor rave on about it for years I 
> think I may finally try it out. Watch this space!
>
> Rory.
csound-x is nice :) - thanks stef

hi rory,

one word of advice that emacs gurus may disagree with but here it goes....
instead of struggling with unfamiliar cut copy paste keybindings... use 
the option to change them to C-x C-c C-v - this makes getting started 
with emacs a lot quicker
and don't forget to type this into the emacs prompt once in a while 
M-x tetris
:)

rob c
>
>     :(
> Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
>> Rory Walsh a écrit :
>>> You can also check out csound-X for emacs. I guess this pretty much 
>>> lets you edit and run Csound from within emacs although I haven't 
>>> ever used it.
>>
>> yes, but this is probably overkill :)
>> WinXsound seems fine...
>>
>> Stef (csound-x author btw)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>and don't forget to type this into the emacs prompt once in a while M-x tetris
>:)
>
>rob c

Now you've just spoilt my afternoon... it'll be a write-off.

Victor
Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Thanks Rob, I'm only getting your mail now, my internet was down for 
ages. I'm getting there, now to install csound-x and give that a whirl!

Rory.


robcanning wrote:
> Rory Walsh wrote:
>> Not if one already know emacs? After speaking with John ffitch about 
>> it at the LAC and listening to Victor rave on about it for years I 
>> think I may finally try it out. Watch this space!
>>
>> Rory.
> csound-x is nice :) - thanks stef
> 
> hi rory,
> 
> one word of advice that emacs gurus may disagree with but here it goes....
> instead of struggling with unfamiliar cut copy paste keybindings... use 
> the option to change them to C-x C-c C-v - this makes getting started 
> with emacs a lot quicker
> and don't forget to type this into the emacs prompt once in a while M-x 
> tetris
> :)
> 
> rob c
>>
>>     :(
>> Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
>>> Rory Walsh a écrit :
>>>> You can also check out csound-X for emacs. I guess this pretty much 
>>>> lets you edit and run Csound from within emacs although I haven't 
>>>> ever used it.
>>>
>>> yes, but this is probably overkill :)
>>> WinXsound seems fine...
>>>
>>> Stef (csound-x author btw)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
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