Thanks, Victor. Following your instructions, I was able finally to install 
and run your activities.

This is all important and necessary information for anyone developing 
Activities for the OLPC. I just wish it were readily available for other 
"developers" like myself who are not Linux afficianados.

I've also verified, as Brian Redfern implied, that only the file 
csndsugui.py need be present in a directory along with the python GUI file 
and your .csd; Victor's entire csndsugui package is not required.

So my current questions are two:

1) Has anyone been successful, on the OLPC, running a Python GUI script 
using csndsugui from the Sugar command line? Victor doesn't think it can be 
done, and I haven't been able to do it. OTOH, Brian's article in the latest 
Csound Journal certainly *implies* that it is possible.

2) Assuming it is not, how do you practically develop a Python GUI 
application for the OLPC? Do you need to install some other Activity, like 
one of Victor's, modify it with your code, get it to work, then create a new 
.xo bundle to install? (Ouch!)

Or do you try to develop it on another machine? I installed Python 2.5 on my 
Windows XP, and can't get Brian's files (along with csndsugui) to work 
there. "Install pygtk" can't find pygtk (it isn't part of Python 2.5 for 
Windows apparently). Is there something reasonable I can do to use csndsugui 
on Windows?

Frankly, I still hope that maybe command-line Python on the OLPC, with 
csndsugui, will work. This would seem the simplest, most straightforward 
possibility. Meanwhile, I remain one "stymied developer".

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "victor" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:25 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC


> You will need to move the activity bundles to the top-level
> activities; GIT is just a repository, not a packaging system,
> so things don't get 'installed'.
>
> Do something like this (from the csndsugui directory)
>
> $ cp -R  *.activity  ~/Activities/
>
> and then restart X
>
> They should pop up in the activity list or bar (depending
> on the version of sugar you are using).
>
> Then you can edit the CSD/python files (but not csndsugui.py) to
> do what you want. For error logs you can look in the files in
>
> .sugar/default/logs/
>
> (from the home directory, ~)
>
> Victor
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Hunkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:39 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> When installing csndsugui via git-clone, this is where they get 
>> installed. But it is the *csndsugui* directory that is installed in 
>> Activities; Synth.activity, Waves.activity, etc. are installed in 
>> sub-directories of csndsugui. Does this fact perhaps make your activities 
>> invisible to Sugar?
>>
>> I've not been able to move any of your activities directly to the 
>> Activities folder; frankly, I don't know where they are disappearing to. 
>> For example, I do (from csndsugui): mv synth.activity Activities, and 
>> synth.activity vanishes (no trace even after restart).
>>
>> Actually, all I really want to do is to use csndsugui.py to create a GUI 
>> for my .csd's. Must the user download/install your *entire* csndsugui 
>> project (as I'm having trouble with), or is the only requirement that the 
>> single file, csndsugui.py, be included in the same directory with my 
>> .csd/.py?
>>
>> Sorry to be so completely confused.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "victor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:43 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>
>>
>>> you need to put them in the Activities directory in
>>> your home directory. Then restart X (ctl-alt-del).
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:19 PM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've not been able to run them from the sugar UI, as they don't show up 
>>>> in my list of activities. I've tried the git-clone download several 
>>>> times (after deletion and after completely redoing my system). 
>>>> Downloading/installing Csound-editor exhibits the same problem; 
>>>> however, in this case, I can get into the directory and run it from the 
>>>> command line (or at least the GUI shows up).
>>>>
>>>> The "normal" activities (.xo bundles from the laptop.org Activities 
>>>> page) install fine, but I've had no luck with your and Greg's 
>>>> project/activities.
>>>>
>>>> I presume when you talk about running from the sugar UI, you're 
>>>> clicking on their Activity listing icon. Correct?
>>>>
>>>> What can be causing these activities not to show up on my list? They 
>>>> are seemingly installed; during download they show no error messages.
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "victor" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:33 AM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed 
>>>> csd's for OLPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not sure. I have never run Activities from the command line, I
>>>>> always run them from the sugar UI. I am not sure they are meant
>>>>> to be run from the terminal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Felipe Sateler" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed 
>>>>> csd's for OLPC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is the possibility that the files have Victor's ownership, and
>>>>>> thus your user can't write to them. The pyc files are automatically
>>>>>> generated by python when you execute a py files. Check the output of
>>>>>> ls -l $file to determine if you have the right access permissions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:56, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>> I've no idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're Victor's files, and I did nothing special in relation to 
>>>>>>> them. I
>>>>>>> didn't know writing was involved. Hopefully, Victor has some idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Sateler" 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for 
>>>>>>> OLPC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have write access to those files/directories?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:18, Art Hunkins  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Victor,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Today I tried (on OLPC) to run your two Activities, Waves and 
>>>>>>>>> synth -
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> their respective directories within csndsugui. I ran both with -d 
>>>>>>>>> and -v
>>>>>>>>> flags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Among the myriad of messages output, two in each run may have some
>>>>>>>>> significance, and be related to why I'm getting no joy. (Both 
>>>>>>>>> activities
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> for about two seconds and come back to the command line 
>>>>>>>>> "normally".)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The messages:
>>>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc has 
>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>> mtime
>>>>>>>>> and several lines later
>>>>>>>>> can't create 
>>>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Of course, synth.activity substitutes synth.) BTW, both .pyc's 
>>>>>>>>> are (or
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> been) created (obviously compiled code with sporadic portions of 
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> like csndsugui.py scattered throughout).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The installed Python version is 2.5.1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is basically explained in:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's a bundle (a directory with all the required files). Your CSD 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> python script go there. You will need to include csndsugui.py in 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> bundle.
>>>>>>>>>> Look at the examples in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/csndsugui
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (you can get them using git clone...)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where does a Python script have to be located and run from to be 
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> find csndsugui? It is installed normally on my OLPC, and a 
>>>>>>>>>>> script run
>>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>> thumb drive cannot find it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Csndsugui
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Python opcodes are absent from OLPCsound, I'd like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>> embedding csd's in a Python script. My thought is to have an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "initialization dialog" allowing the performer to set 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> initialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>> values
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (accessed via chnget), then embark on real-time performance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance-time interaction. The run concludes as usual with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-C.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a Csound .py script that does just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this? (I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking that such a dialog could well substitute for a "setup 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not require other software, such as the csndsugui 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins

That is how it is done. You create your activity as per the
OLPC sugar recipes. The command-line is not really thought
as the main interface in the system and kids/educators are
not really being expected to use it.

No sugar Activity is really designed to be run from the command-line.
The csndsugui project is there to allow an easier integration of
csound and activities, but you need to learn how to build activities
(the basics at least) first. The OLPC wiki and sugar labs wiki have
very good pages about it.

Victor

>
> 2) Assuming it is not, how do you practically develop a Python GUI 
> application for the OLPC? Do you need to install some other Activity, like 
> one of Victor's, modify it with your code, get it to work, then create a 
> new .xo bundle to install? (Ouch!)
>
> Or do you try to develop it on another machine? I installed Python 2.5 on 
> my Windows XP, and can't get Brian's files (along with csndsugui) to work 
> there. "Install pygtk" can't find pygtk (it isn't part of Python 2.5 for 
> Windows apparently). Is there something reasonable I can do to use 
> csndsugui on Windows?
>
> Frankly, I still hope that maybe command-line Python on the OLPC, with 
> csndsugui, will work. This would seem the simplest, most straightforward 
> possibility. Meanwhile, I remain one "stymied developer".
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "victor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:25 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>
>
>> You will need to move the activity bundles to the top-level
>> activities; GIT is just a repository, not a packaging system,
>> so things don't get 'installed'.
>>
>> Do something like this (from the csndsugui directory)
>>
>> $ cp -R  *.activity  ~/Activities/
>>
>> and then restart X
>>
>> They should pop up in the activity list or bar (depending
>> on the version of sugar you are using).
>>
>> Then you can edit the CSD/python files (but not csndsugui.py) to
>> do what you want. For error logs you can look in the files in
>>
>> .sugar/default/logs/
>>
>> (from the home directory, ~)
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Art Hunkins" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:39 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>
>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> When installing csndsugui via git-clone, this is where they get 
>>> installed. But it is the *csndsugui* directory that is installed in 
>>> Activities; Synth.activity, Waves.activity, etc. are installed in 
>>> sub-directories of csndsugui. Does this fact perhaps make your 
>>> activities invisible to Sugar?
>>>
>>> I've not been able to move any of your activities directly to the 
>>> Activities folder; frankly, I don't know where they are disappearing to. 
>>> For example, I do (from csndsugui): mv synth.activity Activities, and 
>>> synth.activity vanishes (no trace even after restart).
>>>
>>> Actually, all I really want to do is to use csndsugui.py to create a GUI 
>>> for my .csd's. Must the user download/install your *entire* csndsugui 
>>> project (as I'm having trouble with), or is the only requirement that 
>>> the single file, csndsugui.py, be included in the same directory with my 
>>> .csd/.py?
>>>
>>> Sorry to be so completely confused.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "victor" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:43 PM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>
>>>
>>>> you need to put them in the Activities directory in
>>>> your home directory. Then restart X (ctl-alt-del).
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:19 PM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've not been able to run them from the sugar UI, as they don't show 
>>>>> up in my list of activities. I've tried the git-clone download several 
>>>>> times (after deletion and after completely redoing my system). 
>>>>> Downloading/installing Csound-editor exhibits the same problem; 
>>>>> however, in this case, I can get into the directory and run it from 
>>>>> the command line (or at least the GUI shows up).
>>>>>
>>>>> The "normal" activities (.xo bundles from the laptop.org Activities 
>>>>> page) install fine, but I've had no luck with your and Greg's 
>>>>> project/activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume when you talk about running from the sugar UI, you're 
>>>>> clicking on their Activity listing icon. Correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be causing these activities not to show up on my list? They 
>>>>> are seemingly installed; during download they show no error messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "victor" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed 
>>>>> csd's for OLPC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure. I have never run Activities from the command line, I
>>>>>> always run them from the sugar UI. I am not sure they are meant
>>>>>> to be run from the terminal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Felipe Sateler" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:01 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed 
>>>>>> csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is the possibility that the files have Victor's ownership, and
>>>>>>> thus your user can't write to them. The pyc files are automatically
>>>>>>> generated by python when you execute a py files. Check the output of
>>>>>>> ls -l $file to determine if you have the right access permissions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:56, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've no idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They're Victor's files, and I did nothing special in relation to 
>>>>>>>> them. I
>>>>>>>> didn't know writing was involved. Hopefully, Victor has some idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Sateler" 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:48 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's 
>>>>>>>> for OLPC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have write access to those files/directories?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:18, Art Hunkins  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Today I tried (on OLPC) to run your two Activities, Waves and 
>>>>>>>>>> synth -
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> their respective directories within csndsugui. I ran both with -d 
>>>>>>>>>> and -v
>>>>>>>>>> flags.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Among the myriad of messages output, two in each run may have 
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> significance, and be related to why I'm getting no joy. (Both 
>>>>>>>>>> activities
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> for about two seconds and come back to the command line 
>>>>>>>>>> "normally".)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The messages:
>>>>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc has 
>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>> mtime
>>>>>>>>>> and several lines later
>>>>>>>>>> can't create 
>>>>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Of course, synth.activity substitutes synth.) BTW, both .pyc's 
>>>>>>>>>> are (or
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> been) created (obviously compiled code with sporadic portions of 
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> like csndsugui.py scattered throughout).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The installed Python version is 2.5.1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:42 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is basically explained in:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a bundle (a directory with all the required files). Your 
>>>>>>>>>>> CSD and
>>>>>>>>>>> python script go there. You will need to include csndsugui.py in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> bundle.
>>>>>>>>>>> Look at the examples in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/csndsugui
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (you can get them using git clone...)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where does a Python script have to be located and run from to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> find csndsugui? It is installed normally on my OLPC, and a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> script run
>>>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> thumb drive cannot find it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Csndsugui
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Python opcodes are absent from OLPCsound, I'd like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embedding csd's in a Python script. My thought is to have an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "initialization dialog" allowing the performer to set 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (accessed via chnget), then embark on real-time performance. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance-time interaction. The run concludes as usual with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-C.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a Csound .py script that does just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this? (I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking that such a dialog could well substitute for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "setup GUI",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not require other software, such as the csndsugui 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>
>
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