[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC

Date	2009-03-10 01:39
From	"Art Hunkins"
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
	Victor, When installing csndsugui via git-clone, this is where they get installed. But it is the csndsugui directory that is installed in Activities; Synth.activity, Waves.activity, etc. are installed in sub-directories of csndsugui. Does this fact perhaps make your activities invisible to Sugar? I've not been able to move any of your activities directly to the Activities folder; frankly, I don't know where they are disappearing to. For example, I do (from csndsugui): mv synth.activity Activities, and synth.activity vanishes (no trace even after restart). Actually, all I really want to do is to use csndsugui.py to create a GUI for my .csd's. Must the user download/install your entire csndsugui project (as I'm having trouble with), or is the only requirement that the single file, csndsugui.py, be included in the same directory with my .csd/.py? Sorry to be so completely confused. Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" To: Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:43 PM Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC > you need to put them in the Activities directory in > your home directory. Then restart X (ctl-alt-del). > > Victor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Art Hunkins" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:19 PM > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC > > >> I've not been able to run them from the sugar UI, as they don't show up >> in my list of activities. I've tried the git-clone download several times >> (after deletion and after completely redoing my system). >> Downloading/installing Csound-editor exhibits the same problem; however, >> in this case, I can get into the directory and run it from the command >> line (or at least the GUI shows up). >> >> The "normal" activities (.xo bundles from the laptop.org Activities page) >> install fine, but I've had no luck with your and Greg's >> project/activities. >> >> I presume when you talk about running from the sugar UI, you're clicking >> on their Activity listing icon. Correct? >> >> What can be causing these activities not to show up on my list? They are >> seemingly installed; during download they show no error messages. >> >> Art Hunkins >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "victor" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:33 AM >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed >> csd's for OLPC >> >> >>> Not sure. I have never run Activities from the command line, I >>> always run them from the sugar UI. I am not sure they are meant >>> to be run from the terminal. >>> >>> Victor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Felipe Sateler" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:01 AM >>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's >>> for OLPC >>> >>> >>>> There is the possibility that the files have Victor's ownership, and >>>> thus your user can't write to them. The pyc files are automatically >>>> generated by python when you execute a py files. Check the output of >>>> ls -l $file to determine if you have the right access permissions >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:56, Art Hunkins wrote: >>>>> I've no idea. >>>>> >>>>> They're Victor's files, and I did nothing special in relation to them. >>>>> I >>>>> didn't know writing was involved. Hopefully, Victor has some idea. >>>>> >>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Sateler" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:48 PM >>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for >>>>> OLPC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Do you have write access to those files/directories? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:18, Art Hunkins wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Victor, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today I tried (on OLPC) to run your two Activities, Waves and >>>>>>> synth - >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> their respective directories within csndsugui. I ran both with -d >>>>>>> and -v >>>>>>> flags. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Among the myriad of messages output, two in each run may have some >>>>>>> significance, and be related to why I'm getting no joy. (Both >>>>>>> activities >>>>>>> run >>>>>>> for about two seconds and come back to the command line "normally".) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The messages: >>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc has bad >>>>>>> mtime >>>>>>> and several lines later >>>>>>> can't create >>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Of course, synth.activity substitutes synth.) BTW, both .pyc's are >>>>>>> (or >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> been) created (obviously compiled code with sporadic portions of >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> looks >>>>>>> like csndsugui.py scattered throughout). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The installed Python version is 2.5.1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:42 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is basically explained in: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's a bundle (a directory with all the required files). Your CSD >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> python script go there. You will need to include csndsugui.py in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> bundle. >>>>>>>> Look at the examples in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/csndsugui >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (you can get them using git clone...) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:28 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Victor, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where does a Python script have to be located and run from to be >>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> find csndsugui? It is installed normally on my OLPC, and a script >>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>> from a >>>>>>>>> thumb drive cannot find it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:23 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> See: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Csndsugui >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:12 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Since Python opcodes are absent from OLPCsound, I'd like to try >>>>>>>>>>> embedding csd's in a Python script. My thought is to have an >>>>>>>>>>> opening >>>>>>>>>>> Python >>>>>>>>>>> "initialization dialog" allowing the performer to set >>>>>>>>>>> initialization >>>>>>>>>>> values >>>>>>>>>>> (accessed via chnget), then embark on real-time performance. No >>>>>>>>>>> performance-time interaction. The run concludes as usual with >>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-C. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a Csound .py script that does just this? >>>>>>>>>>> (I'm >>>>>>>>>>> thinking that such a dialog could well substitute for a "setup >>>>>>>>>>> GUI", >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> would not require other software, such as the csndsugui >>>>>>>>>>> activity, to >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> downloaded.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Felipe Sateler >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Felipe Sateler >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound"

Date	2009-03-10 09:25
From	victor
Subject	[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC
	You will need to move the activity bundles to the top-level activities; GIT is just a repository, not a packaging system, so things don't get 'installed'. Do something like this (from the csndsugui directory) $ cp -R .activity ~/Activities/ and then restart X They should pop up in the activity list or bar (depending on the version of sugar you are using). Then you can edit the CSD/python files (but not csndsugui.py) to do what you want. For error logs you can look in the files in .sugar/default/logs/ (from the home directory, ~) Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:39 AM Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC > Victor, > > When installing csndsugui via git-clone, this is where they get installed. > But it is the csndsugui* directory that is installed in Activities; > Synth.activity, Waves.activity, etc. are installed in sub-directories of > csndsugui. Does this fact perhaps make your activities invisible to Sugar? > > I've not been able to move any of your activities directly to the > Activities folder; frankly, I don't know where they are disappearing to. > For example, I do (from csndsugui): mv synth.activity Activities, and > synth.activity vanishes (no trace even after restart). > > Actually, all I really want to do is to use csndsugui.py to create a GUI > for my .csd's. Must the user download/install your entire csndsugui > project (as I'm having trouble with), or is the only requirement that the > single file, csndsugui.py, be included in the same directory with my > .csd/.py? > > Sorry to be so completely confused. > > Art Hunkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "victor" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:43 PM > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC > > >> you need to put them in the Activities directory in >> your home directory. Then restart X (ctl-alt-del). >> >> Victor >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Art Hunkins" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:19 PM >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >> >> >>> I've not been able to run them from the sugar UI, as they don't show up >>> in my list of activities. I've tried the git-clone download several >>> times (after deletion and after completely redoing my system). >>> Downloading/installing Csound-editor exhibits the same problem; however, >>> in this case, I can get into the directory and run it from the command >>> line (or at least the GUI shows up). >>> >>> The "normal" activities (.xo bundles from the laptop.org Activities >>> page) install fine, but I've had no luck with your and Greg's >>> project/activities. >>> >>> I presume when you talk about running from the sugar UI, you're clicking >>> on their Activity listing icon. Correct? >>> >>> What can be causing these activities not to show up on my list? They are >>> seemingly installed; during download they show no error messages. >>> >>> Art Hunkins >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "victor" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:33 AM >>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed >>> csd's for OLPC >>> >>> >>>> Not sure. I have never run Activities from the command line, I >>>> always run them from the sugar UI. I am not sure they are meant >>>> to be run from the terminal. >>>> >>>> Victor >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Felipe Sateler" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:01 AM >>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed >>>> csd's for OLPC >>>> >>>> >>>>> There is the possibility that the files have Victor's ownership, and >>>>> thus your user can't write to them. The pyc files are automatically >>>>> generated by python when you execute a py files. Check the output of >>>>> ls -l $file to determine if you have the right access permissions >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:56, Art Hunkins wrote: >>>>>> I've no idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> They're Victor's files, and I did nothing special in relation to >>>>>> them. I >>>>>> didn't know writing was involved. Hopefully, Victor has some idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Sateler" >>>>>> >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:48 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for >>>>>> OLPC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you have write access to those files/directories? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:18, Art Hunkins wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Victor, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today I tried (on OLPC) to run your two Activities, Waves and >>>>>>>> synth - >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> their respective directories within csndsugui. I ran both with -d >>>>>>>> and -v >>>>>>>> flags. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Among the myriad of messages output, two in each run may have some >>>>>>>> significance, and be related to why I'm getting no joy. (Both >>>>>>>> activities >>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>> for about two seconds and come back to the command line >>>>>>>> "normally".) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The messages: >>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc has >>>>>>>> bad >>>>>>>> mtime >>>>>>>> and several lines later >>>>>>>> can't create >>>>>>>> /home/olpc/Activities/csndsugui/Waves.activity/csndsugui.pyc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Of course, synth.activity substitutes synth.) BTW, both .pyc's are >>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> been) created (obviously compiled code with sporadic portions of >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>> like csndsugui.py scattered throughout). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The installed Python version is 2.5.1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:42 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is basically explained in: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it's a bundle (a directory with all the required files). Your CSD >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> python script go there. You will need to include csndsugui.py in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> bundle. >>>>>>>>> Look at the examples in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/csndsugui >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (you can get them using git clone...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:28 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Victor, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where does a Python script have to be located and run from to be >>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> find csndsugui? It is installed normally on my OLPC, and a script >>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>> from a >>>>>>>>>> thumb drive cannot find it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "victor" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:23 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> See: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Csndsugui >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:12 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Python script to embed csd's for OLPC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since Python opcodes are absent from OLPCsound, I'd like to try >>>>>>>>>>>> embedding csd's in a Python script. My thought is to have an >>>>>>>>>>>> opening >>>>>>>>>>>> Python >>>>>>>>>>>> "initialization dialog" allowing the performer to set >>>>>>>>>>>> initialization >>>>>>>>>>>> values >>>>>>>>>>>> (accessed via chnget), then embark on real-time performance. No >>>>>>>>>>>> performance-time interaction. The run concludes as usual with >>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl-C. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a Csound .py script that does just >>>>>>>>>>>> this? (I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking that such a dialog could well substitute for a "setup >>>>>>>>>>>> GUI", >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> would not require other software, such as the csndsugui >>>>>>>>>>>> activity, to >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded.) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Felipe Sateler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Felipe Sateler >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound"