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[Csnd] Re: Re: Tentative request

Date2008-05-07 00:43
From"Art Hunkins"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Tentative request
Yes; getting Csound5GUI to work correctly (hopefully with FLTK) on all platforms is a top priority IMO.
 
Art Hunkins
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Tentative request

Agree on this too!  

Please. 
 The installers are great but Csound5GUI.app isn't all working correctly.
It seems so close, but it's not there yet - and how does it deal with fltk instruments (when you launch these?)

The text editor doesn't correctly deal with all .txt files and wrap lines correctly - like MacCsound did.
The editor doesn't link to the manual - and I can't get the help to open the manual
It doesn't come up with a default .csd (as it should) for a first time user!
and
There should be a collection of .csd that it points to by default - for beginners too - and some toots too.

-dB

On May 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

A working Csound GUI on os x would be nice.

Again, the ATS opcodes don't work so well and need attention. I cannot get Loris to work so an updated tutorial for os x on installation and use of Loris opcodes and analysis utility would be useful.

Some utility programs are not included in the os x distribution (e.g. the sdif to adsyn conversion utility).

A new pvs opcode for spectral stretching! Some other less conventional arbitrary fft stuff available in CDP (e.g. formant extraction and manipulation), shuffling/scattering bins, spectral tuning, tracing and so on!

Many Thanks
Peiman

2008/5/6 Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@csounds.com>:
completely agree.

Victor's Macintosh Installers are fantastic.

It needs to be as easy again for the Windows *users* *owners* *students* too.

It used to be that easy - back in the day of Winsound.

-dB


On May 6, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Stéphane Rollandin wrote:


2:  With even less promises, are there facilities that you REALLY
would like the developers to deliver?  Either in the next release or
soon.

windows binaries distributed as a plain zip, without installer, and without python dependency.

that would be nice :)


Stef



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Date2008-05-07 14:29
From"Andres Cabrera"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Tentative request
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Date2008-05-07 14:36
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative request
Looking forward to the release. Not sure about having it in the csound 
repository. You know better than I but apart from it using QT's qmake 
doesn't QT also have a rather strange licensing issue which might 
conflict with Csound's licence?

Rory.


Andres Cabrera wrote:
> I agree. A simple cross platform frontend-editor is extremely urgent, 
> I'm tired with csound5gui... I'm not really comfortable with that code, 
> and have probably done more ill than good to it. I've been whipping up a 
> simple editor (yet another csound editor...) made with qt, which is now 
> working in its early stage in Linux. I wanted to ask if it's ok to 
> commit in the csound repository, or if people would prefer if I maintain 
> a separate tree. It will not use scons, as it uses qt's qmake, so I 
> hesitate to add it in the csound repository.
> This editor is still a couple of weeks away from release, though...
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrés
> 
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Art Hunkins  > wrote:
> 
>     Yes; getting Csound5GUI to work correctly (hopefully with FLTK) on
>     all platforms is a top priority IMO.
>      
>     Art Hunkins
> 
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Dr. Richard Boulanger 
>         *To:* csound@lists.bath.ac.uk 
>         *Cc:* Andres Cabrera 
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:27 PM
>         *Subject:* [Csnd] Re: Tentative request
> 
>         Agree on this too!  
> 
>         Please. 
>          The installers are great but Csound5GUI.app isn't all working
>         correctly.
>         It seems so close, but it's not there yet - and how does it deal
>         with fltk instruments (when you launch these?)
> 
>         The text editor doesn't correctly deal with all .txt files and
>         wrap lines correctly - like MacCsound did.
>         The editor doesn't link to the manual - and I can't get the help
>         to open the manual
>         It doesn't come up with a default .csd (as it should) for a
>         first time user!
>         and
>         There should be a collection of .csd that it points to by
>         default - for beginners too - and some toots too.
> 
>         -dB
> 
>         On May 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:
> 
>>         A working Csound GUI on os x would be nice.
>>
>>         Again, the ATS opcodes don't work so well and need attention.
>>         I cannot get Loris to work so an updated tutorial for os x on
>>         installation and use of Loris opcodes and analysis utility
>>         would be useful.
>>
>>         Some utility programs are not included in the os x
>>         distribution (e.g. the sdif to adsyn conversion utility).
>>
>>         A new pvs opcode for spectral stretching! Some other less
>>         conventional arbitrary fft stuff available in CDP (e.g.
>>         formant extraction and manipulation), shuffling/scattering
>>         bins, spectral tuning, tracing and so on!
>>
>>         Many Thanks
>>         Peiman
>>
>>         2008/5/6 Dr. Richard Boulanger >         >:
>>
>>             completely agree.
>>
>>             Victor's Macintosh Installers are fantastic.
>>
>>             It needs to be as easy again for the Windows *users*
>>             *owners* *students* too.
>>
>>             It used to be that easy - back in the day of Winsound.
>>
>>             -dB
>>
>>
>>             On May 6, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
>>
>>
>>                     2:  With even less promises, are there facilities
>>                     that you REALLY
>>                     would like the developers to deliver?  Either in
>>                     the next release or
>>                     soon.
>>
>>
>>                 windows binaries distributed as a plain zip, without
>>                 installer, and without python dependency.
>>
>>                 that would be nice :)
>>
>>
>>                 Stef
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Send bugs reports to this list.
>>                 To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>                  with body "unsubscribe
>>                 csound"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>
> 
> 

Date2008-05-07 14:45
From"Andres Cabrera"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative request
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Date2008-05-07 15:09
From"peiman khosravi"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative request
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Date2008-05-07 15:37
From"Dale Stewart"
Subject[Csnd] RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative request

Perhaps allowing one or more macros to be defined on the command line, as in a compiler, would do the trick.

 


From: peiman khosravi [mailto:peimankhosravi@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:09 AM
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative request

 

I almost forgot! There is one thing I've wished for so long: to be precise, since I moved to os x and csound5. CsoundAV used to have an opcode that you could replace with a file name string and upon rendering the csd a browser would pop open that allowed you to choose a file. This would be very nice to have as a cross-platform opcode in csound5. Sometimes I don't want to hassle with any GUI and just want to run a csd to generically process a sound file, but it's annoying to have to open the editor and change the file name every time! I believe Supercollider 3 also has a similar function so why shouldn't csound? Please forgive me if such an opcode already exists (I have not found it yet!).


Thanks
Peiman

2008/5/7 Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com>:

Hi,
Not really. Qt is double licensed, so you can choose either GPL or pay for a commercial license. I chose the first one...
And since it is a separate entity from csound altogether, it will not conflict with Csound.But I´m thinking that since Qt will have to be bundled with the editor, this will make the program a bit large, so it will be better as a separate download from csound from a separate tree. I've just applied for a new sourceforge hosting space. I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,
Andrés

 

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

Looking forward to the release. Not sure about having it in the csound repository. You know better than I but apart from it using QT's qmake doesn't QT also have a rather strange licensing issue which might conflict with Csound's licence?

Rory.


Andres Cabrera wrote:

I agree. A simple cross platform frontend-editor is extremely urgent, I'm tired with csound5gui... I'm not really comfortable with that code, and have probably done more ill than good to it. I've been whipping up a simple editor (yet another csound editor...) made with qt, which is now working in its early stage in Linux. I wanted to ask if it's ok to commit in the csound repository, or if people would prefer if I maintain a separate tree. It will not use scons, as it uses qt's qmake, so I hesitate to add it in the csound repository.
This editor is still a couple of weeks away from release, though...

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu <mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu>> wrote:

   Yes; getting Csound5GUI to work correctly (hopefully with FLTK) on
   all platforms is a top priority IMO.
       Art Hunkins

       ----- Original Message -----

       *From:* Dr. Richard Boulanger <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>
       *To:* csound@lists.bath.ac.uk <mailto:csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>
       *Cc:* Andres Cabrera <mailto:mantaraya36@gmail.com>
       *Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:27 PM
       *Subject:* [Csnd] Re: Tentative request

       Agree on this too!  
       Please.         The installers are great but Csound5GUI.app isn't all working
       correctly.
       It seems so close, but it's not there yet - and how does it deal
       with fltk instruments (when you launch these?)

       The text editor doesn't correctly deal with all .txt files and
       wrap lines correctly - like MacCsound did.
       The editor doesn't link to the manual - and I can't get the help
       to open the manual
       It doesn't come up with a default .csd (as it should) for a
       first time user!
       and
       There should be a collection of .csd that it points to by
       default - for beginners too - and some toots too.

       -dB

       On May 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

       A working Csound GUI on os x would be nice.

       Again, the ATS opcodes don't work so well and need attention.
       I cannot get Loris to work so an updated tutorial for os x on
       installation and use of Loris opcodes and analysis utility
       would be useful.

       Some utility programs are not included in the os x
       distribution (e.g. the sdif to adsyn conversion utility).

       A new pvs opcode for spectral stretching! Some other less
       conventional arbitrary fft stuff available in CDP (e.g.
       formant extraction and manipulation), shuffling/scattering
       bins, spectral tuning, tracing and so on!

       Many Thanks
       Peiman

       2008/5/6 Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@csounds.com

       <mailto:rboulanger@csounds.com>>:



           completely agree.

           Victor's Macintosh Installers are fantastic.

           It needs to be as easy again for the Windows *users*
           *owners* *students* too.

           It used to be that easy - back in the day of Winsound.

           -dB


           On May 6, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Stéphane Rollandin wrote:


                   2:  With even less promises, are there facilities
                   that you REALLY
                   would like the developers to deliver?  Either in
                   the next release or
                   soon.


               windows binaries distributed as a plain zip, without
               installer, and without python dependency.

               that would be nice :)


               Stef



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