I am a composer, and to an extent, a performer of Csound works; i.e., I'm a 
Csound *user*. I am not a developer/packager; i.e., I do not build Csound. I 
do give feedback to developers, and try out the new things they develop, in 
order to have better tools to compose with.

Of course, this distinction tends to break down in the Linux world - which 
is probably the prime reason I'm not a "Linux person". I simply don't want 
to get so heavily into the technical stuff; I don't want to construct my own 
"system". I want to construct my *compositions*.

Frankly, I've my hands more than full trying to get my compositions right, 
create simple performance GUIs, and writing Python scripts for Sugar (ugh). 
I count on developers to furnish me the tools - including working Csound 
binaries - to enable me to write my music. Furthermore, I'm not particularly 
picky; my needs are fairly mainstream.

Since I write realtime Csound pieces for *others* to play (hopefully not 
just myself), I wouldn't *dream* of asking a potential performer to build 
Csound. (I don't ask him to build a piano.) I want to make it as easy and 
approachable as possible for the performer. So, *please*, developers, make 
as many ready-to-go, bug-free, user-friendly tools/builds as possible.



Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows 
installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site


Removing portmidi from the windows installers doesn't mean removing it
from all csound. It's still available for windows if you build it and
it will still be available on the other platforms.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:
> Yes, yes, yes - please. (I've written an XO Activity based on multiple
> controllers.)
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gogins"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:25 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows
> installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site
>
>
>> Well, I said I would try to debug the PortMidi problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 8/12/09, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>
>>> Didn't Andres added code to the portmidi module to accept multi-port 
>>> MIDI
>>> input? That will certainly be missed.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>
>>> At 16:12 12/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Windows, winmme (Windows Multimedia Extensions) is a standard part
>>>> of the operating system and seems to work pretty well. Backward
>>>> compatibility would be a problem, I believe, only for the command-line
>>>> options. It should not affect MIDI behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 8/12/09, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>> > If not PortMidi, what?
>>>> >
>>>> > Backward compatibility?
>>>> >
>>>> > Art Hunkins
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>> > To: 
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:00 AM
>>>> > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows installer for >
>>>> > Csound
>>>> > 5.11 at my Web site
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Yes. That's one of the things I will debug. If I can't fix it, no >>
>>>> >> more
>>>> >> PortMidi on Windows.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> Mike
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 8/12/09, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>> >>> It seems like portmidi hangs at (Ctrl+c) exit still.
>>>> >>> Oeyvind
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 2009/8/12 Michael Gogins :
>>>> >>>> I'm updating tutorials, then debugging a few things, then the >>>>
>>>> >>>> final.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Mike
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Aug 12, 2009 5:21 AM, "Tim Mortimer" 
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> So just to clarify
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> id like to do this install when it becomes official (been out of
>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> loop
>>>> >>>> too long to participate in this trail sorry... havent been using
>>>> >>>> >>>> 5.10
>>>> >>>> because of the ctrl thing basically... hoping to re-enter with
>>>> >>>> 5.11 -
>>>> >>>> see
>>>> >>>> what QuteCsound is all about + Lua)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> would now be a good time to upgrade to python 2.6 then? shouldnt 
>>>> >>>> be
>>>> >>>> any
>>>> >>>> drama vs 2.5 for most bog standard types of scripts?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> assumedly no other dependencies necessary.... do i need to update
>>>> >>>> quicktime
>>>> >>>> or something? this is the only info i have seen...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> talking Windows obviously
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> many thanks.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> -----
>>>> >>>> http://www.timmortimer.net
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> View this message in context:
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Pre-release-Windows-installer-for-Csound-5.11-at-my-Web-site-tp24818767p24931887.html
>>>> >>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>> >>>>
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>>>
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>>> Music Department
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>>>
>>>
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Oh, OK. I thought you were concerned about the change breaking your
sugar application.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Art Hunkins wrote:
> 
>
> I am a composer, and to an extent, a performer of Csound works; i.e., I'm a
> Csound *user*. I am not a developer/packager; i.e., I do not build Csound. I
> do give feedback to developers, and try out the new things they develop, in
> order to have better tools to compose with.
>
> Of course, this distinction tends to break down in the Linux world - which
> is probably the prime reason I'm not a "Linux person". I simply don't want
> to get so heavily into the technical stuff; I don't want to construct my own
> "system". I want to construct my *compositions*.
>
> Frankly, I've my hands more than full trying to get my compositions right,
> create simple performance GUIs, and writing Python scripts for Sugar (ugh).
> I count on developers to furnish me the tools - including working Csound
> binaries - to enable me to write my music. Furthermore, I'm not particularly
> picky; my needs are fairly mainstream.
>
> Since I write realtime Csound pieces for *others* to play (hopefully not
> just myself), I wouldn't *dream* of asking a potential performer to build
> Csound. (I don't ask him to build a piano.) I want to make it as easy and
> approachable as possible for the performer. So, *please*, developers, make
> as many ready-to-go, bug-free, user-friendly tools/builds as possible.
>
> 
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:25 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows
> installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site
>
>
> Removing portmidi from the windows installers doesn't mean removing it
> from all csound. It's still available for windows if you build it and
> it will still be available on the other platforms.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:
>>
>> Yes, yes, yes - please. (I've written an XO Activity based on multiple
>> controllers.)
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gogins"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:25 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows
>> installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site
>>
>>
>>> Well, I said I would try to debug the PortMidi problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 8/12/09, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Didn't Andres added code to the portmidi module to accept multi-port
>>>> MIDI
>>>> input? That will certainly be missed.
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>> At 16:12 12/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Windows, winmme (Windows Multimedia Extensions) is a standard part
>>>>> of the operating system and seems to work pretty well. Backward
>>>>> compatibility would be a problem, I believe, only for the command-line
>>>>> options. It should not affect MIDI behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/12/09, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>> > If not PortMidi, what?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Backward compatibility?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Art Hunkins
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>>> > To: 
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:00 AM
>>>>> > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows installer for >
>>>>> > Csound
>>>>> > 5.11 at my Web site
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Yes. That's one of the things I will debug. If I can't fix it, no >>
>>>>> >> more
>>>>> >> PortMidi on Windows.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>> >> Mike
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 8/12/09, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>> >>> It seems like portmidi hangs at (Ctrl+c) exit still.
>>>>> >>> Oeyvind
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> 2009/8/12 Michael Gogins :
>>>>> >>>> I'm updating tutorials, then debugging a few things, then the >>>>
>>>>> >>>> final.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Mike
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Aug 12, 2009 5:21 AM, "Tim Mortimer" 
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> So just to clarify
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> id like to do this install when it becomes official (been out of
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> loop
>>>>> >>>> too long to participate in this trail sorry... havent been using
>>>>> >>>> >>>> 5.10
>>>>> >>>> because of the ctrl thing basically... hoping to re-enter with
>>>>> >>>> 5.11 -
>>>>> >>>> see
>>>>> >>>> what QuteCsound is all about + Lua)
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> would now be a good time to upgrade to python 2.6 then? shouldnt
>>>>> >>>> >>>> be
>>>>> >>>> any
>>>>> >>>> drama vs 2.5 for most bog standard types of scripts?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> assumedly no other dependencies necessary.... do i need to update
>>>>> >>>> quicktime
>>>>> >>>> or something? this is the only info i have seen...
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> talking Windows obviously
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> many thanks.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> -----
>>>>> >>>> http://www.timmortimer.net
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>> >>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Pre-release-Windows-installer-for-Csound-5.11-at-my-Web-site-tp24818767p24931887.html
>>>>> >>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. To unsubscribe, send email
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> csound"
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Michael Gogins
>>>>> >> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> >> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>>>> >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Music Technology Laboratory
>>>> Music Department
>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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I've probably asked this before, so please excuse the question -- why Sugar?

Regards,
Mike

On 8/13/09, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Oh, OK. I thought you were concerned about the change breaking your
> sugar application.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Art Hunkins wrote:
>> 
>>
>> I am a composer, and to an extent, a performer of Csound works; i.e., I'm
>> a
>> Csound *user*. I am not a developer/packager; i.e., I do not build Csound.
>> I
>> do give feedback to developers, and try out the new things they develop,
>> in
>> order to have better tools to compose with.
>>
>> Of course, this distinction tends to break down in the Linux world - which
>> is probably the prime reason I'm not a "Linux person". I simply don't want
>> to get so heavily into the technical stuff; I don't want to construct my
>> own
>> "system". I want to construct my *compositions*.
>>
>> Frankly, I've my hands more than full trying to get my compositions right,
>> create simple performance GUIs, and writing Python scripts for Sugar
>> (ugh).
>> I count on developers to furnish me the tools - including working Csound
>> binaries - to enable me to write my music. Furthermore, I'm not
>> particularly
>> picky; my needs are fairly mainstream.
>>
>> Since I write realtime Csound pieces for *others* to play (hopefully not
>> just myself), I wouldn't *dream* of asking a potential performer to build
>> Csound. (I don't ask him to build a piano.) I want to make it as easy and
>> approachable as possible for the performer. So, *please*, developers, make
>> as many ready-to-go, bug-free, user-friendly tools/builds as possible.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andres Cabrera"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:25 AM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release
>> Windows
>> installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site
>>
>>
>> Removing portmidi from the windows installers doesn't mean removing it
>> from all csound. It's still available for windows if you build it and
>> it will still be available on the other platforms.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, yes, yes - please. (I've written an XO Activity based on multiple
>>> controllers.)
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gogins"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows
>>> installer for Csound 5.11 at my Web site
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I said I would try to debug the PortMidi problem.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 8/12/09, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't Andres added code to the portmidi module to accept multi-port
>>>>> MIDI
>>>>> input? That will certainly be missed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>>
>>>>> At 16:12 12/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Windows, winmme (Windows Multimedia Extensions) is a standard part
>>>>>> of the operating system and seems to work pretty well. Backward
>>>>>> compatibility would be a problem, I believe, only for the command-line
>>>>>> options. It should not affect MIDI behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/12/09, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>> > If not PortMidi, what?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Backward compatibility?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Art Hunkins
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>>>> > To: 
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:00 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Pre-release Windows installer for >
>>>>>> > Csound
>>>>>> > 5.11 at my Web site
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Yes. That's one of the things I will debug. If I can't fix it, no
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> more
>>>>>> >> PortMidi on Windows.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>>> >> Mike
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 8/12/09, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>> >>> It seems like portmidi hangs at (Ctrl+c) exit still.
>>>>>> >>> Oeyvind
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 2009/8/12 Michael Gogins :
>>>>>> >>>> I'm updating tutorials, then debugging a few things, then the
>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> final.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Mike
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Aug 12, 2009 5:21 AM, "Tim Mortimer" 
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> So just to clarify
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> id like to do this install when it becomes official (been out of
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> loop
>>>>>> >>>> too long to participate in this trail sorry... havent been using
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> 5.10
>>>>>> >>>> because of the ctrl thing basically... hoping to re-enter with
>>>>>> >>>> 5.11 -
>>>>>> >>>> see
>>>>>> >>>> what QuteCsound is all about + Lua)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> would now be a good time to upgrade to python 2.6 then? shouldnt
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> any
>>>>>> >>>> drama vs 2.5 for most bog standard types of scripts?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> assumedly no other dependencies necessary.... do i need to update
>>>>>> >>>> quicktime
>>>>>> >>>> or something? this is the only info i have seen...
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> talking Windows obviously
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> many thanks.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> -----
>>>>>> >>>> http://www.timmortimer.net
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Pre-release-Windows-installer-for-Csound-5.11-at-my-Web-site-tp24818767p24931887.html
>>>>>> >>>> Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at
>>>>>> >>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>>> >> --
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>>>>>> >> Irreducible Productions
>>>>>> >> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>>>>> >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
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>>>>> Music Department
>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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