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[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what todo?

Date2009-08-07 21:46
Fromloucohen@jolc.net
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what todo?

Hello all,

At this point this message relates only to MacCsound and Mac/Intel/10.5:

I did indeed acquire an Intel machine and installed csound 5.09 and MacCsound. The combination works, although sometimes MacCsound dies upon launch. It then runs fine after another attempt to launch.

I do want to try QuteCsound with my improvising software, but I'm not sure how to allow csound versions 5.09 and 5.10 to co-exist on one computer.

best,
Lou Cohen



On Fri 07/08/09 2:03 PM , victor Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie sent:

That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
To make it work with Intel, he can try installing

1) MacPython 2.5
2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).

For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.

Victor.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <badmuthahubbard@gmail.com>
To: <csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what to
do?


Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
Csound, told me he gets this:

Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
image found. Did find:
/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
"

Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
either of you be willing to test my program?
http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.

Thanks a lot.
-Chuckk

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen<loucohen@jolc.net> wrote:
> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>
> -Lou
>
>
> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW" <vip@avatar.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>
>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>> and it
>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>> purchase
>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>
>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>
>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>> There are
>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>> responds to
>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>
>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>> install
>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>> However,
>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>> only
>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>> MacCsound to my
>>> proposed new computer.
>>>
>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>> extensive
>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>> but
>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>> OSX10.4,
>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>
>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>> because
>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>> I'm
>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>> to be
>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>> coming.
>>>
>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Dr David Worrall.
>> - Experimental Polymedia: http://www.avatar.com.au">www.avatar.com.au
>> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
>> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>> csound"
>
>
>
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Date2009-08-07 22:44
Fromvictor
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what todo?
5.10 comes with 5.08 too, which (if you install the PPC version) would allow you to
run MacCsound. However you would need a PPC version of QuteCsound too.
 
My suggestion is for you to move to QuteCsound. AFAIK it is now fully compatible
with older MacCsound projects.
 
Victor
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what todo?

Hello all,

At this point this message relates only to MacCsound and Mac/Intel/10.5:

I did indeed acquire an Intel machine and installed csound 5.09 and MacCsound. The combination works, although sometimes MacCsound dies upon launch. It then runs fine after another attempt to launch.

I do want to try QuteCsound with my improvising software, but I'm not sure how to allow csound versions 5.09 and 5.10 to co-exist on one computer.

best,
Lou Cohen



On Fri 07/08/09 2:03 PM , victor Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie sent:
That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
To make it work with Intel, he can try installing

1) MacPython 2.5
2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).

For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.

Victor.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <badmuthahubbard@gmail.com>
To: <csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what to
do?


Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
Csound, told me he gets this:

Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
image found. Did find:
/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
"

Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
either of you be willing to test my program?
http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.

Thanks a lot.
-Chuckk

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen<loucohen@jolc.net> wrote:
> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>
> -Lou
>
>
> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW" <vip@avatar.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>
>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>> and it
>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>> purchase
>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>
>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>
>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>> There are
>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>> responds to
>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>
>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>> install
>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>> However,
>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>> only
>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>> MacCsound to my
>>> proposed new computer.
>>>
>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>> extensive
>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>> but
>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>> OSX10.4,
>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>
>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>> because
>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>> I'm
>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>> to be
>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>> coming.
>>>
>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Dr David Worrall.
>> - Experimental Polymedia: http://www.avatar.com.au">www.avatar.com.au
>> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
>> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>
>
>
>
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