Hello, all,

I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound and it
appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to purchase
a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.

Here¹s my dilemma:

1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound. There are
about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and responds to
325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.

2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should install
Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound. However,
checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5, only
versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving MacCsound to my
proposed new computer.

3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my extensive
body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound, but
this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC, OSX10.4,
early version of QuteCsound.)

4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4) because
QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while I'm
depending on MacCsound on this machine.

I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition to be
possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?

Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be coming.

-Lou Cohen

Hi Lou,

I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC

on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
which I install from a downloaded package.

David

On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:

> Hello, all,
>
> I’ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound  
> and it
> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I’m about to  
> purchase
> a new MacBook — this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>
> Here’s my dilemma:
>
> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.  
> There are
> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and  
> responds to
> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>
> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should  
> install
> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.  
> However,
> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,  
> only
> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving  
> MacCsound to my
> proposed new computer.
>
> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my  
> extensive
> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,  
> but
> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,  
> OSX10.4,
> early version of QuteCsound.)
>
> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)  
> because
> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while  
> I'm
> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>
> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition  
> to be
> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>
> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be  
> coming.
>
> -Lou Cohen
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body  
> "unsubscribe csound"

________________________________________________
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- Experimental Polymedia:	  www.avatar.com.au
- Sonification: sonification.com.au
- MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au

Thanks, David! that's great to know.

-Lou


On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:

> Hi Lou,
> 
> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
> 
> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
> which I install from a downloaded package.
> 
> David
> 
> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
> 
>> Hello, all,
>> 
>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>> and it
>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>> purchase
>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>> 
>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>> 
>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>> There are
>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>> responds to
>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>> 
>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>> install
>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>> However,
>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>> only
>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>> MacCsound to my
>> proposed new computer.
>> 
>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>> extensive
>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>> but
>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>> OSX10.4,
>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>> 
>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>> because
>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>> I'm
>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>> 
>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>> to be
>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>> coming.
>> 
>> -Lou Cohen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> "unsubscribe csound"
> 
> ________________________________________________
> Dr David Worrall.
> - Experimental Polymedia:      www.avatar.com.au
> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> csound"

Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
Csound, told me he gets this:

Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
image found.  Did find:
	/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
"

Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
either of you be willing to test my program?
http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.

Thanks a lot.
-Chuckk

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>
> -Lou
>
>
> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>
>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>> and it
>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>> purchase
>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>
>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>
>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>> There are
>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>> responds to
>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>
>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>> install
>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>> However,
>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>> only
>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>> MacCsound to my
>>> proposed new computer.
>>>
>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>> extensive
>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>> but
>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>> OSX10.4,
>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>
>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>> because
>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>> I'm
>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>> to be
>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>> coming.
>>>
>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Dr David Worrall.
>> - Experimental Polymedia:      www.avatar.com.au
>> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
>> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>
>
>
>
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That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
To make it work with Intel, he can try installing

1) MacPython 2.5
2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).

For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.

Victor.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what to 
do?


Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
Csound, told me he gets this:

Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
image found.  Did find:
/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
"

Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
either of you be willing to test my program?
http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.

Thanks a lot.
-Chuckk

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>
> -Lou
>
>
> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>
>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>> and it
>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>> purchase
>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>
>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>
>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>> There are
>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>> responds to
>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>
>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>> install
>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>> However,
>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>> only
>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>> MacCsound to my
>>> proposed new computer.
>>>
>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>> extensive
>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>> but
>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>> OSX10.4,
>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>
>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>> because
>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>> I'm
>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>> to be
>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>> coming.
>>>
>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>> ________________________________________________
>> Dr David Worrall.
>> - Experimental Polymedia: www.avatar.com.au
>> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
>> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to this list.
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> csound"



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csound"= 

That's what he did, but I just checked his email and he also tried
Csound 5.10 Intel 10.4. He says "it doesn't install the csound module
for python 2.5, probably because 10.4 only shipped with Python 2.3." I
can't check right now.

Great news about the 10.5 Intel machine. I'm not in any hurry for
Python 2.6 myself, having been told it wouldn't be "standard" for some
time. Seems like it's being picked up pretty quickly by people.

-Chuckk


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:03 PM, victor wrote:
> That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
> for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
> To make it work with Intel, he can try installing
>
> 1) MacPython 2.5
> 2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).
>
> For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
> create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
> as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.
>
> Victor.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuckk Hubbard"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what to
> do?
>
>
> Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
> haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
> Csound, told me he gets this:
>
> Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
> dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
> image found.  Did find:
> /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
> "
>
> Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
> there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
> either of you be willing to test my program?
> http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
> If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
> appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
> program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> -Chuckk
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>>
>> -Lou
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lou,
>>>
>>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>>
>>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, all,
>>>>
>>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>>> and it
>>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>>> purchase
>>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>>
>>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>>> There are
>>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>>> responds to
>>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>>
>>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>>> install
>>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>>> However,
>>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>>> only
>>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>>> MacCsound to my
>>>> proposed new computer.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>>> extensive
>>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>>> but
>>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>>> OSX10.4,
>>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>>
>>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>>> because
>>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>>> I'm
>>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>>> to be
>>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>>> coming.
>>>>
>>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________
>>> Dr David Worrall.
>>> - Experimental Polymedia: www.avatar.com.au
>>> - Sonification: sonification.com.au
>>> - MARCS Auditory Laboratories: marcs.uws.edu.au
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>> csound"
>>
>>
>>
>>
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For what it's worth, I'll reiterate.
It is recommended that anyone doing anything serious in python avoids  
the apple-shipped version like the plague.
There are multiple reasons for this; check the pythonmc sig for all  
the details, (pythonmac-sig@python.org) but they include their  
appalling record of maintaining their shipped version. Afterall, it  
would be no problem for Apple to keep it up-to-date in the way they do  
with other sw, but they don't (care). In addition, they have now  
started to include non-standard proprietary API tools (with no access  
to sources) with their python which will trap the unwary.

I understand Victor wanting to be inclusive, but IMO, especially given  
the amount of work involved in maintenance, it would be better to make  
it a requirement for csound that they use the mac-python version.

D.


On 08/08/2009, at 10:36 AM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:

> That's what he did, but I just checked his email and he also tried
> Csound 5.10 Intel 10.4. He says "it doesn't install the csound module
> for python 2.5, probably because 10.4 only shipped with Python 2.3." I
> can't check right now.
>
> Great news about the 10.5 Intel machine. I'm not in any hurry for
> Python 2.6 myself, having been told it wouldn't be "standard" for some
> time. Seems like it's being picked up pretty quickly by people.
>
> -Chuckk
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:03 PM, victor  
> wrote:
>> That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
>> for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
>> To make it work with Intel, he can try installing
>>
>> 1) MacPython 2.5
>> 2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).
>>
>> For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
>> create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
>> as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.
>>
>> Victor.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuckk Hubbard"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 --  
>> what to
>> do?
>>
>>
>> Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
>> haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
>> Csound, told me he gets this:
>>
>> Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
>> dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
>> image found.  Did find:
>> /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong  
>> architecture
>> "
>>
>> Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
>> there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me.  
>> Would
>> either of you be willing to test my program?
>> http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
>> If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
>> appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
>> program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> -Chuckk
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>>>
>>> -Lou
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lou,
>>>>
>>>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>>>
>>>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>>>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of  
>>>>> QuteCsound
>>>>> and it
>>>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about  
>>>>> to
>>>>> purchase
>>>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>>>> There are
>>>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>>>> responds to
>>>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard  
>>>>> activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>>>> install
>>>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>>>> However,
>>>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>>>> only
>>>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>>>> MacCsound to my
>>>>> proposed new computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>>>> extensive
>>>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on  
>>>>> QuteCsound,
>>>>> but
>>>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment  
>>>>> (PPC,
>>>>> OSX10.4,
>>>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>>>> because
>>>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this  
>>>>> while
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>>>> to be
>>>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>>>> coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>

________________________________________________
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- Experimental Polymedia:	  www.avatar.com.au
- Sonification: sonification.com.au
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As I said in my e-mail it does install Python 2.5 but for MacPython not
Apple Python. He will need to install MacPython 2.5 first.

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:36 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 --  
what to do?


That's what he did, but I just checked his email and he also tried
Csound 5.10 Intel 10.4. He says "it doesn't install the csound module
for python 2.5, probably because 10.4 only shipped with Python 2.3." I
can't check right now.

Great news about the 10.5 Intel machine. I'm not in any hurry for
Python 2.6 myself, having been told it wouldn't be "standard" for some
time. Seems like it's being picked up pretty quickly by people.

-Chuckk


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:03 PM, victor wrote:
> That is because he probably installed the PPC version of Csound 5.10
> for OSX, which is the only 10.5 installer available.
> To make it work with Intel, he can try installing
>
> 1) MacPython 2.5
> 2) Csound 5.10 for Intel (OSX 10.4).
>
> For the next release I should have a 10.5 Intel machine available to
> create binaries. I will also move to support Python 2.6 (MacPython),
> as well as the Apple-installed 2.5.
>
> Victor.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuckk Hubbard"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:48 PM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: MacCsound/QuteCsound/Intel/OSX10.5 -- what to
> do?
>
>
> Hi. While you're on the subject, I don't have 10.5 on Intel, so I
> haven't been able to test, but a user of my program, which links to
> Csound, told me he gets this:
>
> Installing the PPC version yields the error "ImportError:
> dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so, 2): no suitable
> image found. Did find:
> /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/_csnd.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
> "
>
> Using the PPC 10.5 version of 5.10. My program is a front end, so
> there's no QuteCsound involved, so maybe you guys can't help me. Would
> either of you be willing to test my program?
> http://rationale.sourceforge.net -version 0.2
> If so, and it's not immediately clear what to do to test it, I'd
> appreciate it if you'd drop me a line. I've delayed announcing my
> program in some forums (for 3 months) because of this.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> -Chuckk
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, David! that's great to know.
>>
>> -Lou
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/09 18:33, "DavidW"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lou,
>>>
>>> I run Csound5.09-OSX10.4-PPC
>>>
>>> on an Intel Mac under OS 10.5 when I want to use MacCsound
>>> which I install from a downloaded package.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 02/08/2009, at 1:23 AM, Lou Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, all,
>>>>
>>>> I¹ve followed the many discussions about the emergence of QuteCsound
>>>> and it
>>>> appears I will making the jump from MacCsound soon, as I¹m about to
>>>> purchase
>>>> a new MacBook ‹ this is an Intel Mac with OSX10.5 pre-installed.
>>>>
>>>> Here¹s my dilemma:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I have a very large csd file that works well with MacCsound.
>>>> There are
>>>> about 3200 lines of code in the orchestra, and it monitors and
>>>> responds to
>>>> 325 widgets as well as incoming sound and computer keyboard activity.
>>>>
>>>> 2. To use MacCsound on an Intel machine it appears that I should
>>>> install
>>>> Csound 5.09, PPC version. I understand that 5.10 breaks MacCsound.
>>>> However,
>>>> checking Sourceforge, I do not see a version of 5.09 for OSX 10.5,
>>>> only
>>>> versions for 10.4. So it seems that I cannot consider moving
>>>> MacCsound to my
>>>> proposed new computer.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Therefore I must move to QuteCsound. The last time I tried my
>>>> extensive
>>>> body of code with QuteCsound it made too many demands on QuteCsound,
>>>> but
>>>> this was months ago, and of course in a different environment (PPC,
>>>> OSX10.4,
>>>> early version of QuteCsound.)
>>>>
>>>> 4. I cannot try QuteCsound on my current machine (PPC, OSX10.4)
>>>> because
>>>> QuteCsound requires Csound 5.10, and I don't dare install this while
>>>> I'm
>>>> depending on MacCsound on this machine.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether the world has changed enough for a transition
>>>> to be
>>>> possible. Does anyone have any information or advice?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for all the thoughtful responses I know will be
>>>> coming.
>>>>
>>>> -Lou Cohen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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