"musiques formelles" = Music Forms
    First couple pages is about scales (la musicala) or musicality

Just got a call back to work. I'll check it out more later.
- P

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To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject: [Csnd] Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:54 +1100

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


On 12/02/2008, at 5:10 PM, Super Pija wrote:

> Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation  
> to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>
>
> http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/fxe/ecrits/mus_form.html
>
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This book is available in English under the title: Formalized Music: Thought 
and Mathematics in Composition. Xénakis applied mathematical expression to 
compose many of his works, by doing that he «formalized» a process. But 
Miller Puckette (PureData) could better answer since he works for Xénakis 
while at IRCAM in the 1980's.

marc

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From: " Partev Barr Sarkissian" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:16 PM
To: 
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable 
available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!

> "musiques formelles" = Music Forms
>    First couple pages is about scales (la musicala) or musicality
>
> Just got a call back to work. I'll check it out more later.
> - P
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --- vip@avatar.com.au wrote:
>
> From: DavidW 
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable 
> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:54 +1100
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
>
> On 12/02/2008, at 5:10 PM, Super Pija wrote:
>
>> Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation
>> to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>>
>>
>> http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/fxe/ecrits/mus_form.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> process. But Miller Puckette (PureData) could better answer since he 
> works for Xénakis while at IRCAM in the 1980's.

And if anyone is heading to the Linux Audio Conference this year they 
can ask him in person as he is the keynote speaker; I can't wait!

Rory.


> 
> marc
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: " Partev Barr Sarkissian" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable 
> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
> 
>> "musiques formelles" = Music Forms
>>    First couple pages is about scales (la musicala) or musicality
>>
>> Just got a call back to work. I'll check it out more later.
>> - P
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>> --- vip@avatar.com.au wrote:
>>
>> From: DavidW 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable 
>> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:54 +1100
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>>
>>
>> On 12/02/2008, at 5:10 PM, Super Pija wrote:
>>
>>> Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation
>>> to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/fxe/ecrits/mus_form.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> - Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au
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Perhaps my link to it's commercial availability:
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

was too concise.
Here's Amazon's blurb:
> Product Description
> Pendragon Press is proud to offer this new, revised, and expanded  
> edition of Formalized Music, Iannis Xenakis's landmark book of 1971.  
> In addition to three totally new chapters examining recent  
> breakthroughs in music theory, two original computer programs  
> illustrating the actual realization of newly proposed methods of  
> composition, and an appendix of the very latest developments of  
> stochastic synthesis as an invitation to future exploration, Xenakis  
> offers a very critical self-examination of his theoretical  
> propositions and artistic output of the past thirty-five years. This  
> edition of Formalized Music is an essential tool for understanding  
> the man and the thought processes of one of this century's most  
> important and revolutionary musical figures.
>
> Language Notes
> Text: English, French (translation) --This text refers to an out of  
> print or unavailable edition of this title.

  The first was 1971 (from memory) Pub. by Indiana UP.  Translated by  
Chris Butchers. I still have my 1973 copy, heavily annotated! I was a  
first year undergraduate at the time. The extra chapters in the second  
edition include more on time&space, sieve theory, dynamic stochastic  
synthesis and an update bibliography etc.

It is a seminal, sometimes (technically) infuriating book.  If you  
have problem with the maths, just _read through_ them. The book is  
_much_ more than a "how to" book. I had the privilege of spending time  
with him in the 1980s and wrote a small article of his importance to  
me as a composer on his passing:
Iannis Xenakis: A composer’s perspective Organised Sound Vol 6 No. 1  
Cambridge University Press (2001) pp 75-76. Subtitle: Vale I.X.
It can be downloaded here:
  http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=85277
If you're really stuck and want to read it, email me off list.

And of course, the music is fantastic. I find the further we are  
historically removed from them, even the early stochastic works are  
amazing!

-David

On 13/02/2008, at 10:53 AM, Marc Demers wrote:

> This book is available in English under the title: Formalized Music:  
> Thought and Mathematics in Composition. Xénakis applied mathematical  
> expression to compose many of his works, by doing that he  
> «formalized» a process. But Miller Puckette (PureData) could better  
> answer since he works for Xénakis while at IRCAM in the 1980's.
>
> marc
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: " Partev Barr Sarkissian" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles"  
> downloadable available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>
>> "musiques formelles" = Music Forms
>>   First couple pages is about scales (la musicala) or musicality
>>
>> Just got a call back to work. I'll check it out more later.
>> - P
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> --- vip@avatar.com.au wrote:
>>
>> From: DavidW 
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable  
>> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:54 +1100
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>>
>>
>> On 12/02/2008, at 5:10 PM, Super Pija wrote:
>>
>>> Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation
>>> to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/fxe/ecrits/mus_form.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Hello All,

Miller is also going to be at the SEAMUS 2008 national conference in April.
He is the recipient of the Lifetime Achievement Award.

http://www.seamusonline.org

Take care,

Michael




On 2/12/08 8:10 PM, "Rory Walsh"  wrote:

>> process. But Miller Puckette (PureData) could better answer since he
>> works for Xénakis while at IRCAM in the 1980's.
> 
> And if anyone is heading to the Linux Audio Conference this year they
> can ask him in person as he is the keynote speaker; I can't wait!
> 
> Rory.
> 
> 
>> 
>> marc
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: " Partev Barr Sarkissian" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:16 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable
>> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>> 
>>> "musiques formelles" = Music Forms
>>>    First couple pages is about scales (la musicala) or musicality
>>> 
>>> Just got a call back to work. I'll check it out more later.
>>> - P
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- vip@avatar.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: DavidW 
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: [OT]Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable
>>> available <---translation to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:35:54 +1100
>>> 
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576470792/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/02/2008, at 5:10 PM, Super Pija wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Xenakis "musiques formelles" downloadable available <---translation
>>>> to english immediatly PLEASE!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/fxe/ecrits/mus_form.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________________
>>> David Worrall.
>>> - Experimental Polymedia: www.avatar.com.au
>>> - Education for Financial Independence: www.mindthemarkets.com.au
>>> Australian research affiliations:
>>> - Capital Markets Cooperative Research Centre: www.cmcrc.com
>>> - Sonic Communications Research Group: creative.canberra.edu.au/scrg