another issue to add while working with midi in csoundqt (the usual 
midi, not the "internal midi interface" for the widgets) on osx:
after running and stopping any csd several times, midi is no longer 
working at all (for instance the MIDI_IO_Test shows nothing). we have to 
restart csoundqt, then midi is there again.
i guess this is because of some portmidi problems, and i am wondering 
whether coremidi could be included as a choice?
best -
	joachim


Am 14.02.2013 01:02, schrieb peiman khosravi:
> Hi Andres,
>
> Yes this is the internal widget control rather than Csound's MIDI input.
> I make a new csd with some slider widgets. Set the controller numbers
> correctly to correspond with my USB nanokontroler. All works fine.
>
> I quit the programme and reopen it again with the same csd. midi
> controllers don't work.
>
> Opening the widget inspector reveals the correct controller number. I
> zero this and retype it anyway and press OK. It now works!
>
> I don't have any way of checking if this applies only to a usb interface
> or nor but I doubt so.
>
> Thanks
> Peiman
>
>
> On 13 February 2013 23:10, Andres Cabrera  > wrote:
>
>     Hmm, interesting. Can you describe the behavior exactly? Does it
>     happen after a certain fixed time, or under particular conditions
>     that you can establish?
>
>     (I'm assuming this is for the internal MIDI control that goes
>     directly to widgets without passing through Csound)
>
>     I don't think anything has changed in that area of the code, but
>     maybe something new elsewhere has revealed a preexisting problem...
>
>     Cheers,
>     Andrés
>
>
>     On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:41 AM, peiman khosravi
>     > wrote:
>
>         Just a little, ever so gentle, bump! I could use some other
>         means of making the interface but I want the kids to play with
>         Csound in a more direct fashion.
>
>         P
>
>         On 8 February 2013 15:53, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>         > wrote:
>
>             Exactly.  This is a new "feature".
>
>             Sent from my iPhone.
>
>             On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, peiman khosravi
>             >
>             wrote:
>
>>             OK you're absolutely right. It doesn't work reliably. It
>>             loses connection when I restart CsoundQT. I'm working on a
>>             project for kids and really want csoundQT to work with my
>>             usb midi controllers.
>>
>>             P
>>
>>             On 8 February 2013 00:39, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>             >
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 same with me - OK with MaxMSP - disappears with CsoundQt.
>>
>>
>>                 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, peiman khosravi
>>                 >                 > wrote:
>>
>>                     I just don't think it should be so complicated. It
>>                     works on both maxmsp and pd without any faf, on
>>                     exactly the same machine and with the same set up.
>>
>>                     Thanks,
>>                     Peiman
>>
>>
>>                     On 7 February 2013 22:12, peiman khosravi
>>                     >                     > wrote:
>>
>>                         But does it work with a usb midi interface?
>>
>>                         P
>>
>>
>>                         On 7 February 2013 21:34, joachim heintz
>>                         >                         > wrote:
>>
>>                             "works for me" on osx 10.6, both with the
>>                             usual midi (via portmidi) and the internal
>>                             midi interface which lets you assign a
>>                             midi controller directly to a widget.
>>
>>                                     joachim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

This could be the portmidi reentrancy problem again. Yes, you could try using coremidi, -+rtmidi=cm or -+rtmidi=coremidi

Note that I have not implemented midi output in coremidi, but if this module becomes useful, I can implement it.

On 14 Feb 2013, at 07:27, joachim heintz wrote:

> another issue to add while working with midi in csoundqt (the usual midi, not the "internal midi interface" for the widgets) on osx:
> after running and stopping any csd several times, midi is no longer working at all (for instance the MIDI_IO_Test shows nothing). we have to restart csoundqt, then midi is there again.
> i guess this is because of some portmidi problems, and i am wondering whether coremidi could be included as a choice?
> best -
> 	joachim
> 
> 
> Am 14.02.2013 01:02, schrieb peiman khosravi:
>> Hi Andres,
>> 
>> Yes this is the internal widget control rather than Csound's MIDI input.
>> I make a new csd with some slider widgets. Set the controller numbers
>> correctly to correspond with my USB nanokontroler. All works fine.
>> 
>> I quit the programme and reopen it again with the same csd. midi
>> controllers don't work.
>> 
>> Opening the widget inspector reveals the correct controller number. I
>> zero this and retype it anyway and press OK. It now works!
>> 
>> I don't have any way of checking if this applies only to a usb interface
>> or nor but I doubt so.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Peiman
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 February 2013 23:10, Andres Cabrera > > wrote:
>> 
>>    Hmm, interesting. Can you describe the behavior exactly? Does it
>>    happen after a certain fixed time, or under particular conditions
>>    that you can establish?
>> 
>>    (I'm assuming this is for the internal MIDI control that goes
>>    directly to widgets without passing through Csound)
>> 
>>    I don't think anything has changed in that area of the code, but
>>    maybe something new elsewhere has revealed a preexisting problem...
>> 
>>    Cheers,
>>    Andrés
>> 
>> 
>>    On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:41 AM, peiman khosravi
>>    > wrote:
>> 
>>        Just a little, ever so gentle, bump! I could use some other
>>        means of making the interface but I want the kids to play with
>>        Csound in a more direct fashion.
>> 
>>        P
>> 
>>        On 8 February 2013 15:53, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>        > wrote:
>> 
>>            Exactly.  This is a new "feature".
>> 
>>            Sent from my iPhone.
>> 
>>            On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, peiman khosravi
>>            >
>>            wrote:
>> 
>>>            OK you're absolutely right. It doesn't work reliably. It
>>>            loses connection when I restart CsoundQT. I'm working on a
>>>            project for kids and really want csoundQT to work with my
>>>            usb midi controllers.
>>> 
>>>            P
>>> 
>>>            On 8 February 2013 00:39, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>            >
>>>            wrote:
>>> 
>>>                same with me - OK with MaxMSP - disappears with CsoundQt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, peiman khosravi
>>>                >>                > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                    I just don't think it should be so complicated. It
>>>                    works on both maxmsp and pd without any faf, on
>>>                    exactly the same machine and with the same set up.
>>> 
>>>                    Thanks,
>>>                    Peiman
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                    On 7 February 2013 22:12, peiman khosravi
>>>                    >>                    > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                        But does it work with a usb midi interface?
>>> 
>>>                        P
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                        On 7 February 2013 21:34, joachim heintz
>>>                        >>                        > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                            "works for me" on osx 10.6, both with the
>>>                            usual midi (via portmidi) and the internal
>>>                            midi interface which lets you assign a
>>>                            midi controller directly to a widget.
>>> 
>>>                                    joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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I have this same problem.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:27 AM, joachim heintz  wrote:

> another issue to add while working with midi in csoundqt (the usual midi, not the "internal midi interface" for the widgets) on osx:
> after running and stopping any csd several times, midi is no longer working at all (for instance the MIDI_IO_Test shows nothing). we have to restart csoundqt, then midi is there again.
> i guess this is because of some portmidi problems, and i am wondering whether coremidi could be included as a choice?
> best -
>    joachim
> 
> 
> Am 14.02.2013 01:02, schrieb peiman khosravi:
>> Hi Andres,
>> 
>> Yes this is the internal widget control rather than Csound's MIDI input.
>> I make a new csd with some slider widgets. Set the controller numbers
>> correctly to correspond with my USB nanokontroler. All works fine.
>> 
>> I quit the programme and reopen it again with the same csd. midi
>> controllers don't work.
>> 
>> Opening the widget inspector reveals the correct controller number. I
>> zero this and retype it anyway and press OK. It now works!
>> 
>> I don't have any way of checking if this applies only to a usb interface
>> or nor but I doubt so.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Peiman
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 February 2013 23:10, Andres Cabrera > > wrote:
>> 
>>    Hmm, interesting. Can you describe the behavior exactly? Does it
>>    happen after a certain fixed time, or under particular conditions
>>    that you can establish?
>> 
>>    (I'm assuming this is for the internal MIDI control that goes
>>    directly to widgets without passing through Csound)
>> 
>>    I don't think anything has changed in that area of the code, but
>>    maybe something new elsewhere has revealed a preexisting problem...
>> 
>>    Cheers,
>>    Andrés
>> 
>> 
>>    On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:41 AM, peiman khosravi
>>    > wrote:
>> 
>>        Just a little, ever so gentle, bump! I could use some other
>>        means of making the interface but I want the kids to play with
>>        Csound in a more direct fashion.
>> 
>>        P
>> 
>>        On 8 February 2013 15:53, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>        > wrote:
>> 
>>            Exactly.  This is a new "feature".
>> 
>>            Sent from my iPhone.
>> 
>>            On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, peiman khosravi
>>            >
>>            wrote:
>> 
>>>            OK you're absolutely right. It doesn't work reliably. It
>>>            loses connection when I restart CsoundQT. I'm working on a
>>>            project for kids and really want csoundQT to work with my
>>>            usb midi controllers.
>>> 
>>>            P
>>> 
>>>            On 8 February 2013 00:39, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>            >
>>>            wrote:
>>> 
>>>                same with me - OK with MaxMSP - disappears with CsoundQt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, peiman khosravi
>>>                >>                > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                    I just don't think it should be so complicated. It
>>>                    works on both maxmsp and pd without any faf, on
>>>                    exactly the same machine and with the same set up.
>>> 
>>>                    Thanks,
>>>                    Peiman
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                    On 7 February 2013 22:12, peiman khosravi
>>>                    >>                    > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                        But does it work with a usb midi interface?
>>> 
>>>                        P
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                        On 7 February 2013 21:34, joachim heintz
>>>                        >>                        > wrote:
>>> 
>>>                            "works for me" on osx 10.6, both with the
>>>                            usual midi (via portmidi) and the internal
>>>                            midi interface which lets you assign a
>>>                            midi controller directly to a widget.
>>> 
>>>                                    joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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I can't reproduce it. Works fine on 10.6
On 14 Feb 2013, at 15:02, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> I have this same problem.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone.
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:27 AM, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
>> another issue to add while working with midi in csoundqt (the usual midi, not the "internal midi interface" for the widgets) on osx:
>> after running and stopping any csd several times, midi is no longer working at all (for instance the MIDI_IO_Test shows nothing). we have to restart csoundqt, then midi is there again.
>> i guess this is because of some portmidi problems, and i am wondering whether coremidi could be included as a choice?
>> best -
>>   joachim
>> 
>> 
>> Am 14.02.2013 01:02, schrieb peiman khosravi:
>>> Hi Andres,
>>> 
>>> Yes this is the internal widget control rather than Csound's MIDI input.
>>> I make a new csd with some slider widgets. Set the controller numbers
>>> correctly to correspond with my USB nanokontroler. All works fine.
>>> 
>>> I quit the programme and reopen it again with the same csd. midi
>>> controllers don't work.
>>> 
>>> Opening the widget inspector reveals the correct controller number. I
>>> zero this and retype it anyway and press OK. It now works!
>>> 
>>> I don't have any way of checking if this applies only to a usb interface
>>> or nor but I doubt so.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Peiman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13 February 2013 23:10, Andres Cabrera >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hmm, interesting. Can you describe the behavior exactly? Does it
>>>   happen after a certain fixed time, or under particular conditions
>>>   that you can establish?
>>> 
>>>   (I'm assuming this is for the internal MIDI control that goes
>>>   directly to widgets without passing through Csound)
>>> 
>>>   I don't think anything has changed in that area of the code, but
>>>   maybe something new elsewhere has revealed a preexisting problem...
>>> 
>>>   Cheers,
>>>   Andrés
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:41 AM, peiman khosravi
>>>   > wrote:
>>> 
>>>       Just a little, ever so gentle, bump! I could use some other
>>>       means of making the interface but I want the kids to play with
>>>       Csound in a more direct fashion.
>>> 
>>>       P
>>> 
>>>       On 8 February 2013 15:53, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>       > wrote:
>>> 
>>>           Exactly.  This is a new "feature".
>>> 
>>>           Sent from my iPhone.
>>> 
>>>           On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, peiman khosravi
>>>           >
>>>           wrote:
>>> 
>>>>           OK you're absolutely right. It doesn't work reliably. It
>>>>           loses connection when I restart CsoundQT. I'm working on a
>>>>           project for kids and really want csoundQT to work with my
>>>>           usb midi controllers.
>>>> 
>>>>           P
>>>> 
>>>>           On 8 February 2013 00:39, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>>           >
>>>>           wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>               same with me - OK with MaxMSP - disappears with CsoundQt.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>               On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, peiman khosravi
>>>>               >>>               > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                   I just don't think it should be so complicated. It
>>>>                   works on both maxmsp and pd without any faf, on
>>>>                   exactly the same machine and with the same set up.
>>>> 
>>>>                   Thanks,
>>>>                   Peiman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                   On 7 February 2013 22:12, peiman khosravi
>>>>                   >>>                   > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                       But does it work with a usb midi interface?
>>>> 
>>>>                       P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                       On 7 February 2013 21:34, joachim heintz
>>>>                       >>>                       > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                           "works for me" on osx 10.6, both with the
>>>>                           usual midi (via portmidi) and the internal
>>>>                           midi interface which lets you assign a
>>>>                           midi controller directly to a widget.
>>>> 
>>>>                                   joachim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie