I might just have a broken installation; this isn't the only strange thing
happening. But it's pretty strange. This prints out "0dbfs = 0". I've been
faithfully using 0dbfs instead of hard-coded values for years!

-Chuckk

I can confirm that it happens on my debian system too.

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 19:29, Chuckk Hubbard  wrote:
> I might just have a broken installation; this isn't the only strange thing
> happening. But it's pretty strange. This prints out "0dbfs = 0". I've been
> faithfully using 0dbfs instead of hard-coded values for years!
>
> -Chuckk
>
> --
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>

It works here on OSX 10.5 (Universal Binary!).
On 8 Jun 2010, at 00:54, Felipe Sateler wrote:

> I can confirm that it happens on my debian system too.
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 19:29, Chuckk Hubbard  > wrote:
>> I might just have a broken installation; this isn't the only  
>> strange thing
>> happening. But it's pretty strange. This prints out "0dbfs = 0".  
>> I've been
>> faithfully using 0dbfs instead of hard-coded values for years!
>>
>> -Chuckk
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
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Ubuntu10.04, csound64:

new alloc for instr 11:
instr 11:  0dbfs = 32767.000

Menno


Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> 
> I might just have a broken installation; this isn't the only strange thing
> happening. But it's pretty strange. This prints out "0dbfs = 0". I've been
> faithfully using 0dbfs instead of hard-coded values for years!
> 
> -Chuckk
> 
> -- 
> http://www.badmuthahubbard.com
> 
>  
> 

This sounds lik eth ebug that was fixed with the introduction of separate
input and output number of channels.  In one place the 0dbfs variable was
being read from the wrong place.

So EXACTLY which system are you using, and what is its provenence?

==John ff



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Mine is the  released 5.12 source tarball too, but using my built
packages, of course.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:02, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Try getting the CVS version instead.
> Victor
> On 8 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>
> Debian GNU/Linux testing, real time preempt kernel a la Molnar, 2.6.31.6
> kernel source, i686, Csound 5.12.1 from source; anything else?
> I'll try on Windows XP too when next I reboot.
>
> -Chuckk
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:59 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> This sounds lik eth ebug that was fixed with the introduction of separate
>> input and output number of channels.  In one place the 0dbfs variable was
>> being read from the wrong place.
>>
>> So EXACTLY which system are you using, and what is its provenence?
>>
>> ==John ff
>>
>>
>>
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A bug in the use of 0dbfs as a variable was fixed between Jan 16 and Feb
21 this year.

Not sure exactly when it was introduced.

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PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3


> Mine is the  released 5.12 source tarball too, but using my built
> packages, of course.
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:02, Victor Lazzarini 
> wrote:
>> Try getting the CVS version instead.
>> Victor
>> On 8 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>>
>> Debian GNU/Linux testing, real time preempt kernel a la Molnar, 2.6.31.6
>> kernel source, i686, Csound 5.12.1 from source; anything else?
>> I'll try on Windows XP too when next I reboot.
>>
>> -Chuckk
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:59 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> This sounds lik eth ebug that was fixed with the introduction of
>>> separate
>>> input and output number of channels.  In one place the 0dbfs variable
>>> was
>>> being read from the wrong place.
>>>
>>> So EXACTLY which system are you using, and what is its provenence?
>>>
>>> ==John ff
>>>
>>>
>>>
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There is no 5.12.3 source release...

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>
>
>> Mine is the  released 5.12 source tarball too, but using my built
>> packages, of course.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:02, Victor Lazzarini 
>> wrote:
>>> Try getting the CVS version instead.
>>> Victor
>>> On 8 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>>>
>>> Debian GNU/Linux testing, real time preempt kernel a la Molnar, 2.6.31.6
>>> kernel source, i686, Csound 5.12.1 from source; anything else?
>>> I'll try on Windows XP too when next I reboot.
>>>
>>> -Chuckk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:59 AM,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This sounds lik eth ebug that was fixed with the introduction of
>>>> separate
>>>> input and output number of channels.  In one place the 0dbfs variable
>>>> was
>>>> being read from the wrong place.
>>>>
>>>> So EXACTLY which system are you using, and what is its provenence?
>>>>
>>>> ==John ff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on replied. 
Personally I would like to get it out of the way before the summer coding
spree, but it seems I am alone in this.

OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple strings in
scoe events

> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>>




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I would like to see 5.12 released on Windows before we move to the  
next version. Maybe we should release 5.13 after the summer.

Victor
On 8 Jun 2010, at 17:15, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:

> I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on replied.
> Personally I would like to get it out of the way before the summer  
> coding
> spree, but it seems I am alone in this.
>
> OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple  
> strings in
> scoe events
>
>> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>>>
>
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Can I put in a "vote" to skip the 5.12 release for Windows in favor of
going straight to 5.13?

~ andy.f



On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> I would like to see 5.12 released on Windows before we move to the next
> version. Maybe we should release 5.13 after the summer.
>
> Victor
> On 8 Jun 2010, at 17:15, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>
>> I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on replied.
>> Personally I would like to get it out of the way before the summer coding
>> spree, but it seems I am alone in this.
>>
>> OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple strings in
>> scoe events
>>
>>> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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It doesn't make sense to me to release older (and buggier) code if a
better version is available, especially if it's going to delay the
5.13 release until the end of the summer.  That's all I was thinking.




On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM,   wrote:
> Why?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andy fillebrown 
> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:38 pm
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0dbfs=0
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>
>> Can I put in a "vote" to skip the 5.12 release for Windows in
>> favor of
>> going straight to 5.13?
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>> > I would like to see 5.12 released on Windows before we move to
>> the next
>> > version. Maybe we should release 5.13 after the summer.
>> >
>> > Victor
>> > On 8 Jun 2010, at 17:15, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on
>> replied.>> Personally I would like to get it out of the way
>> before the summer coding
>> >> spree, but it seems I am alone in this.
>> >>
>> >> OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple
>> strings in
>> >> scoe events
>> >>
>> >>> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Also, packages are usually built from CVS HEAD instead of from the
corresponding CVS tag... so the release would be closer to 5.13 than
5.12 anyway

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 02:12, andy fillebrown  wrote:
> It doesn't make sense to me to release older (and buggier) code if a
> better version is available, especially if it's going to delay the
> 5.13 release until the end of the summer.  That's all I was thinking.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM,   wrote:
>> Why?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: andy fillebrown 
>> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:38 pm
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0dbfs=0
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>
>>> Can I put in a "vote" to skip the 5.12 release for Windows in
>>> favor of
>>> going straight to 5.13?
>>>
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I would like to see 5.12 released on Windows before we move to
>>> the next
>>> > version. Maybe we should release 5.13 after the summer.
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> > On 8 Jun 2010, at 17:15, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on
>>> replied.>> Personally I would like to get it out of the way
>>> before the summer coding
>>> >> spree, but it seems I am alone in this.
>>> >>
>>> >> OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple
>>> strings in
>>> >> scoe events
>>> >>
>>> >>> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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Thanks for clearing that up.  I had incorrectly assumed it would be
built from the tag (phew!).  Feel free to disregard my "vote" to
proceed directly to 5.13.

Sorry for the noise,
~ andy.f



On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Also, packages are usually built from CVS HEAD instead of from the
> corresponding CVS tag... so the release would be closer to 5.13 than
> 5.12 anyway
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 02:12, andy fillebrown  wrote:
>> It doesn't make sense to me to release older (and buggier) code if a
>> better version is available, especially if it's going to delay the
>> 5.13 release until the end of the summer.  That's all I was thinking.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM,   wrote:
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: andy fillebrown 
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:38 pm
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0dbfs=0
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>
>>>> Can I put in a "vote" to skip the 5.12 release for Windows in
>>>> favor of
>>>> going straight to 5.13?
>>>>
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> > I would like to see 5.12 released on Windows before we move to
>>>> the next
>>>> > version. Maybe we should release 5.13 after the summer.
>>>> >
>>>> > Victor
>>>> > On 8 Jun 2010, at 17:15, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I have already asked when 5.13 shoudl be released but no on
>>>> replied.>> Personally I would like to get it out of the way
>>>> before the summer coding
>>>> >> spree, but it seems I am alone in this.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> OTOH it might be nice if I can find a workaround for multiple
>>>> strings in
>>>> >> scoe events
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> There is no 5.12.3 source release...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:16,   wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> PS that is it ws fixed in version 5.12.3
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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