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[Csnd] Note from the Metalevel CD

Date2010-06-05 22:21
FromRobert or Gretchen Foose
Subject[Csnd] Note from the Metalevel CD
Hi,
I've been reading Rick Taube's "Notes from the Metalevel" again. 
  There are some very interesting ideas and concepts in it.  I'm 
not really a Lisp programmer, but I'd like to maybe give it a 
try.  My problem is that the book came without the CD that is 
constantly referred to in the text.  I've made efforts through 
Amazon, Routledge Publishers, and Mr. Taube, to try and get a 
copy of it, or at least a website where I can download them.  I 
regret to say that only Amazon was at all helpful..allowing me 
to return my copy for another one..but it didn't have the CD 
either!  So, assuming there ever was a CD, I'm wondering if 
someone out there might be able to either provide me a copy, or 
let me know where I could obtain the files, or at least let Mr. 
Taube know that he'd make at least one person happy if he'd put 
the files on his website, or make the CD available through it. 
Thanks for any and all help.
Bob Foose


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Date2010-06-05 23:35
FromMichael Gogins
Subject[Csnd] Re: Note from the Metalevel CD
Regarding this, are you using the version of Common Music that is
called "Common Music" and that uses Lisp, or are you using the newer
version of Common Music that is sometimes called "Grace" and that uses
Scheme and/or SAL, an easier to read version of Scheme?

Grace comes with a bunch of examples, probably adapted from the Notes
from the Metalevel CD. But these examples are in SAL or Scheme.

Regards,
Mike

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Robert or Gretchen Foose
 wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been reading Rick Taube's "Notes from the Metalevel" again.  There are
> some very interesting ideas and concepts in it.  I'm not really a Lisp
> programmer, but I'd like to maybe give it a try.  My problem is that the
> book came without the CD that is constantly referred to in the text.  I've
> made efforts through Amazon, Routledge Publishers, and Mr. Taube, to try and
> get a copy of it, or at least a website where I can download them.  I regret
> to say that only Amazon was at all helpful..allowing me to return my copy
> for another one..but it didn't have the CD either!  So, assuming there ever
> was a CD, I'm wondering if someone out there might be able to either provide
> me a copy, or let me know where I could obtain the files, or at least let
> Mr. Taube know that he'd make at least one person happy if he'd put the
> files on his website, or make the CD available through it. Thanks for any
> and all help.
> Bob Foose
>
>
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Date2010-06-06 01:00
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Note from the Metalevel CD
Michael Gogins wrote:
> Regarding this, are you using the version of Common Music that is
> called "Common Music" and that uses Lisp, or are you using the newer
> version of Common Music that is sometimes called "Grace" and that uses
> Scheme and/or SAL, an easier to read version of Scheme?
>
> Grace comes with a bunch of examples, probably adapted from the Notes
> from the Metalevel CD. But these examples are in SAL or Scheme.
>   
>   

The original disc includes a Lisp-only implementation of Common Music.

The Grace system includes some examples and tutorial material from the 
book, but not everything in the book has been translated yet.

In case anyone is interested:

    
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/algorithmic-music-composition-linux-part-1

That article looks into Grace. Following articles will explore Michael 
Gogins' CsoundAC and Christopher Ariza's athenaCL.

Best,

dp





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Date2010-06-06 13:04
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Note from the Metalevel CD
That's a simple and attractive introduction, it's interesting to get
an introduction to these systems written in a manner so clear that I
don't even have to try it in practice to get an idea of how the system
works.
Looking forward to read more.

best
Oeyvind

2010/6/6 Dave Phillips :
> Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>> Regarding this, are you using the version of Common Music that is
>> called "Common Music" and that uses Lisp, or are you using the newer
>> version of Common Music that is sometimes called "Grace" and that uses
>> Scheme and/or SAL, an easier to read version of Scheme?
>>
>> Grace comes with a bunch of examples, probably adapted from the Notes
>> from the Metalevel CD. But these examples are in SAL or Scheme.
>>
>
> The original disc includes a Lisp-only implementation of Common Music.
>
> The Grace system includes some examples and tutorial material from the book,
> but not everything in the book has been translated yet.
>
> In case anyone is interested:
>
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/algorithmic-music-composition-linux-part-1
>
> That article looks into Grace. Following articles will explore Michael
> Gogins' CsoundAC and Christopher Ariza's athenaCL.
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
>
>
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>


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Date2010-06-06 13:56
Fromluis jure
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Note from the Metalevel CD
on 2010-06-05 at 20:00 Dave Phillips wrote:

>    
>http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/algorithmic-music-composition-linux-part-1
>
>That article looks into Grace. Following articles will explore Michael 
>Gogins' CsoundAC and Christopher Ariza's athenaCL.


great article, dave, looking forward to the following parts. please
keep us informed.

best,

lj


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