Looks like it is my Off-Topic day!

I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
consider others.  Even better if scriptable.

Bit like Csound for pictures.... 

Anyone got any suggestions?
==John ffitch


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Never used it but I think it is capable of doing what you are after http://processing.org/ 
  It also support OSC so it can communicate with csound.

And of course on the pc and mac Max/msp/jitter does all of that.  
Doesn't PD have a video-based counterpart too?

Best,

P

On 14 Jun 2010, at 18:01, John ff wrote:

> Looks like it is my Off-Topic day!
>
> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>
> Bit like Csound for pictures....
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?
> ==John ffitch
>
>
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Processing allows some manipulation and it's scripted. GEM or Gridflow
which are available as external in Pd let you process video in lots of
different ways. vvvv is another that I've played around with. Eyesweb
provides tools for video processing but it's only on windows.
AVSynthesis may also be worth a look.

Rory.



On 14 June 2010 18:01, John ff  wrote:
> Looks like it is my Off-Topic day!
>
> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>
> Bit like Csound for pictures....
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?
> ==John ffitch
>
>
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John ff wrote:
> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>
>   
Hi John,

Some video editors for Linux:

http://lives.sourceforge.net/

http://www.kdenlive.org/

http://www.openmovieeditor.org/

http://www.pitivi.org/

http://www.blender.org/

http://cinelerra.org/

http://www.kinodv.org/

http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/


I've used most of them. Btw, Blender is amazing, but it's considerably 
more than an editor. The other programs listed are more like typical 
non-linear video editors. I don't know if any support scripting. Some 
support JACK, btw.

To the poster who mentioned AVSynthesis: It creates videos, it does not 
process existing footage. Would be nice if it did though. :)

Best,

dp




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Blender certainly supports scripting, in Python.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Dave Phillips  wrote:
> John ff wrote:
>>
>> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
>> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
>> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
>> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>>
>>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Some video editors for Linux:
>
> http://lives.sourceforge.net/
>
> http://www.kdenlive.org/
>
> http://www.openmovieeditor.org/
>
> http://www.pitivi.org/
>
> http://www.blender.org/
>
> http://cinelerra.org/
>
> http://www.kinodv.org/
>
> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
>
>
> I've used most of them. Btw, Blender is amazing, but it's considerably more
> than an editor. The other programs listed are more like typical non-linear
> video editors. I don't know if any support scripting. Some support JACK,
> btw.
>
> To the poster who mentioned AVSynthesis: It creates videos, it does not
> process existing footage. Would be nice if it did though. :)
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
>
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Greetings,

I forgot to list OpenShot:

http://www.openshotvideo.com/

Btw, the LiVES editor is also controllable via OSC (and JACK).

Best,

dp



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Avidemux can also be scripted to do batch processing, but the 
documentation for that is not so good, although I got it working. It can 
apply colour filters, but not varying over time, so it won't help you. I 
use it a lot but only to convert video to a format that my portable 
video player can play.

Dave Phillips wrote:
> John ff wrote:
>> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
>> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
>> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
>> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>>
>>   
> Hi John,
>
> Some video editors for Linux:
>
> http://lives.sourceforge.net/
>
> http://www.kdenlive.org/
>
> http://www.openmovieeditor.org/
>
> http://www.pitivi.org/
>
> http://www.blender.org/
>
> http://cinelerra.org/
>
> http://www.kinodv.org/
>
> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
>
>
> I've used most of them. Btw, Blender is amazing, but it's considerably 
> more than an editor. The other programs listed are more like typical 
> non-linear video editors. I don't know if any support scripting. Some 
> support JACK, btw.
>
> To the poster who mentioned AVSynthesis: It creates videos, it does 
> not process existing footage. Would be nice if it did though. :)
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
>
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>
>

If the tools mentioned don't offer enough control, there's always C.
;)

-Chuckk

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:01 PM, John ff  wrote:
> Looks like it is my Off-Topic day!
>
> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>
> Bit like Csound for pictures....
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?
> ==John ffitch
>
>
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If the other tools don't offer enough control and you happen to have
nothing to do for next the next 5-10 years then I'd go along with
Chuckk for sure!

On 14 June 2010 22:57, Chuckk Hubbard  wrote:
> If the tools mentioned don't offer enough control, there's always C.
> ;)
>
> -Chuckk
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:01 PM, John ff  wrote:
>> Looks like it is my Off-Topic day!
>>
>> I was asked today about software for video editing.  Not creating the
>> video (that exists) but modifying it, running colour filters varying
>> over time, or brightness envelopes.  Preferably Linux but I would
>> consider others.  Even better if scriptable.
>>
>> Bit like Csound for pictures....
>>
>> Anyone got any suggestions?
>> ==John ffitch
>>
>>
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 23:00, Greg Schroeder  wrote:
> "If the other tools don't offer enough control and you happen to have
> nothing to do for next the next 5-10 years then I'd go along with
> Chuckk for sure!"
>
> Did a csounder just criticize a learning curve vs. functionality issue in a
> programming language? Really?

What would you call functionality in C? Having to manage your memory
manually? Or not having neither object orientation features nor
functional programming features?

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 23:00, Greg Schroeder  wrote:
>> "If the other tools don't offer enough control and you happen to have
>> nothing to do for next the next 5-10 years then I'd go along with
>> Chuckk for sure!"
>>
>> Did a csounder just criticize a learning curve vs. functionality issue in a
>> programming language? Really?
>
> What would you call functionality in C? Having to manage your memory
> manually? Or not having neither object orientation features nor
> functional programming features?

Complete control of that last nagging bit.

-Chuckk


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> Felipe Sateler
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I wasn't necessarily talking about C, I was referring to the
processing of video in general. We in the audio world only have to
worry about 44100 samples a second for a mono source. It's my
understanding that standard digital video has to deal with on average
800(Pixels)*600(Pixels)*3(RGB)*30(frames per second) 'samples' a
second. This works out at over a million 'samples' a second. And
that's using a rather low resolution. This is the only reason why I
shudder at the thought of writing low level C code to process video.

Rory.


On 15 June 2010 06:59, Greg Schroeder  wrote:
> I was being flippant - I was responding to people who seemed to  imply that
> a language (not Csound) was incredibly thorough, but had a steep learning
> curve.
> That's all.
> I don't feel like arguing, I just know that those first few months of 3 to 6
> oscillator additive synthesis were infuriating for me, anyway.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 23:00, Greg Schroeder 
>> wrote:
>> > "If the other tools don't offer enough control and you happen to have
>> > nothing to do for next the next 5-10 years then I'd go along with
>> > Chuckk for sure!"
>> >
>> > Did a csounder just criticize a learning curve vs. functionality issue
>> > in a
>> > programming language? Really?
>>
>> What would you call functionality in C? Having to manage your memory
>> manually? Or not having neither object orientation features nor
>> functional programming features?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
>>
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