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[Csnd] Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux

Date2009-11-23 18:36
FromDjack
Subject[Csnd] Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
Hi list,

I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on Ubuntu
9.10)

I include a short csd and its render wav to show that. 

tempoval gives always zero for kval
and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes overlaps)

Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the command line
but the example given on the same page don't include it.


http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd tempo_tempoval.csd 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-tempoval.wav 

Best,
René
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Date2009-11-24 01:05
FromJacob Joaquin
Subject[Csnd] Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the
tempo opcodes don't really work all that well. I wrote some test
scripts back in the day, and the results led me to believe that there
are a lot of bugs with tempo and tempoval. It is possible that some of
these issues have been addressed, as this was a couple of years ago.

Best,
Jake
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Djack  wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on Ubuntu
> 9.10)
>
> I include a short csd and its render wav to show that.
>
> tempoval gives always zero for kval
> and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes overlaps)
>
> Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the command line
> but the example given on the same page don't include it.
>
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd tempo_tempoval.csd
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-tempoval.wav
>
> Best,
> René


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Date2009-11-24 08:54
FromRene Djack
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
Hi,
Thanks Jacob.

I am not an expert in csound, neither in software and neither in English language !!
But i like to play with this wonderful csound.

Before sending a message to the list i test and retest and i ask myself a lot of questions:

Is it Linux?
Is it Ubuntu?
Is it csound csv last release?
Is it my compilation? scons version, python version......etc
Is it the csd?

IS IT ME???

and after i post to the list to know if others have the same problem as me.

For tempo and tempoval opcodes,
I found in the manual for -t or --tempo flag the line: WARNING: this mode of operation is experimental and may be unreliable.

I think this line should be also included in the tempo and tempoval opcodes manual pages.

And why to keep unreliable opcode(s) and flag(s) in csound?

Best,
René





2009/11/24 Jacob Joaquin <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>
I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the
tempo opcodes don't really work all that well. I wrote some test
scripts back in the day, and the results led me to believe that there
are a lot of bugs with tempo and tempoval. It is possible that some of
these issues have been addressed, as this was a couple of years ago.

Best,
Jake
--
The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/



On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Djack <Rene.Djack@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on Ubuntu
> 9.10)
>
> I include a short csd and its render wav to show that.
>
> tempoval gives always zero for kval
> and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes overlaps)
>
> Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the command line
> but the example given on the same page don't include it.
>
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd tempo_tempoval.csd
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-tempoval.wav
>
> Best,
> René


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Date2009-11-24 09:33
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
Not sure. Who is the author of tempo and tempoval? If they are broken, they need to be fixed.
I was not aware of this, because I don't use them, but if no one with more expertise offers to do it,
I can take a look for the next release.

A CSD with the errors and an idea of what you're supposed to be getting will also help.

Victor 

On 24 Nov 2009, at 08:54, Rene Djack wrote:

Hi,
Thanks Jacob.

I am not an expert in csound, neither in software and neither in English language !!
But i like to play with this wonderful csound.

Before sending a message to the list i test and retest and i ask myself a lot of questions:

Is it Linux?
Is it Ubuntu?
Is it csound csv last release?
Is it my compilation? scons version, python version......etc
Is it the csd?

IS IT ME???

and after i post to the list to know if others have the same problem as me.

For tempo and tempoval opcodes,
I found in the manual for -t or --tempo flag the line: WARNING: this mode of operation is experimental and may be unreliable.

I think this line should be also included in the tempo and tempoval opcodes manual pages.

And why to keep unreliable opcode(s) and flag(s) in csound?

Best,
René





2009/11/24 Jacob Joaquin <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>
I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the
tempo opcodes don't really work all that well. I wrote some test
scripts back in the day, and the results led me to believe that there
are a lot of bugs with tempo and tempoval. It is possible that some of
these issues have been addressed, as this was a couple of years ago.

Best,
Jake
--
The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/



On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Djack <Rene.Djack@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on Ubuntu
> 9.10)
>
> I include a short csd and its render wav to show that.
>
> tempoval gives always zero for kval
> and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes overlaps)
>
> Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the command line
> but the example given on the same page don't include it.
>
>
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd tempo_tempoval.csd
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-tempoval.wav
>
> Best,
> René


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Date2009-11-24 10:06
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
I believe I am the author iod the ipcode to read the tempo -- I think it
as requested as I never use that stuff.

the tempo opcode is ancient -- it is in v3.30 and does not look new there.
 I think it is Barry's original code.

==John

> Not sure. Who is the author of tempo and tempoval? If they are broken,
> they need to be fixed.
> I was not aware of this, because I don't use them, but if no one with
> more expertise offers to do it,
> I can take a look for the next release.
>
> A CSD with the errors and an idea of what you're supposed to be
> getting will also help.
>
> Victor
>
> On 24 Nov 2009, at 08:54, Rene Djack wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks Jacob.
>>
>> I am not an expert in csound, neither in software and neither in
>> English language !!
>> But i like to play with this wonderful csound.
>>
>> Before sending a message to the list i test and retest and i ask
>> myself a lot of questions:
>>
>> Is it Linux?
>> Is it Ubuntu?
>> Is it csound csv last release?
>> Is it my compilation? scons version, python version......etc
>> Is it the csd?
>>
>> IS IT ME???
>>
>> and after i post to the list to know if others have the same problem
>> as me.
>>
>> For tempo and tempoval opcodes,
>> I found in the manual for -t or --tempo flag the line: WARNING: this
>> mode of operation is experimental and may be unreliable.
>>
>> I think this line should be also included in the tempo and tempoval
>> opcodes manual pages.
>>
>> And why to keep unreliable opcode(s) and flag(s) in csound?
>>
>> Best,
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/24 Jacob Joaquin 
>> I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the
>> tempo opcodes don't really work all that well. I wrote some test
>> scripts back in the day, and the results led me to believe that there
>> are a lot of bugs with tempo and tempoval. It is possible that some of
>> these issues have been addressed, as this was a couple of years ago.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>> --
>> The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Djack  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on
>> Ubuntu
>> > 9.10)
>> >
>> > I include a short csd and its render wav to show that.
>> >
>> > tempoval gives always zero for kval
>> > and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes
>> overlaps)
>> >
>> > Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the
>> command line
>> > but the example given on the same page don't include it.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd
>> tempo_tempoval.csd
>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-
>> tempoval.wav
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > René
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
>
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Date2009-11-24 10:36
FromRene Djack
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux
Thanks for all,

<<A CSD with the errors and an idea of what you're supposed to be getting will also help.>>
I think that setting tempo.csd in csound manual/example working well will be fine.

I always use these examples a a reference to understand how an opcode is performing before using.

Best,
René




2009/11/24 <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk>
I believe I am the author iod the ipcode to read the tempo -- I think it
as requested as I never use that stuff.

the tempo opcode is ancient -- it is in v3.30 and does not look new there.
 I think it is Barry's original code.

==John

> Not sure. Who is the author of tempo and tempoval? If they are broken,
> they need to be fixed.
> I was not aware of this, because I don't use them, but if no one with
> more expertise offers to do it,
> I can take a look for the next release.
>
> A CSD with the errors and an idea of what you're supposed to be
> getting will also help.
>
> Victor
>
> On 24 Nov 2009, at 08:54, Rene Djack wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks Jacob.
>>
>> I am not an expert in csound, neither in software and neither in
>> English language !!
>> But i like to play with this wonderful csound.
>>
>> Before sending a message to the list i test and retest and i ask
>> myself a lot of questions:
>>
>> Is it Linux?
>> Is it Ubuntu?
>> Is it csound csv last release?
>> Is it my compilation? scons version, python version......etc
>> Is it the csd?
>>
>> IS IT ME???
>>
>> and after i post to the list to know if others have the same problem
>> as me.
>>
>> For tempo and tempoval opcodes,
>> I found in the manual for -t or --tempo flag the line: WARNING: this
>> mode of operation is experimental and may be unreliable.
>>
>> I think this line should be also included in the tempo and tempoval
>> opcodes manual pages.
>>
>> And why to keep unreliable opcode(s) and flag(s) in csound?
>>
>> Best,
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/24 Jacob Joaquin <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>
>> I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the
>> tempo opcodes don't really work all that well. I wrote some test
>> scripts back in the day, and the results led me to believe that there
>> are a lot of bugs with tempo and tempoval. It is possible that some of
>> these issues have been addressed, as this was a couple of years ago.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>> --
>> The Csound Blog - http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Djack <Rene.Djack@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I can't get these  two opcodes working on my system (cvs csound on
>> Ubuntu
>> > 9.10)
>> >
>> > I include a short csd and its render wav to show that.
>> >
>> > tempoval gives always zero for kval
>> > and i can't understand why the output wav is like that (2 notes
>> overlaps)
>> >
>> > Please note that the tempo manual say to add the -t flag in the
>> command line
>> > but the example given on the same page don't include it.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo_tempoval.csd
>> tempo_tempoval.csd
>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26483590/tempo-tempoval.wav tempo-
>> tempoval.wav
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > René
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
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>
>
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Date2009-11-24 12:04
FromMichael Gogins
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Problem with tempo and tempoval opcodes on Linux

Once features are in csound we are obliged to keep them in case people have made pieces with them.

Mkg

On Nov 24, 2009 3:54 AM, "Rene Djack" <rene.djack@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Thanks Jacob.

I am not an expert in csound, neither in software and neither in English language !!
But i like to play with this wonderful csound.

Before sending a message to the list i test and retest and i ask myself a lot of questions:

Is it Linux?
Is it Ubuntu?
Is it csound csv last release?
Is it my compilation? scons version, python version......etc
Is it the csd?

IS IT ME???

and after i post to the list to know if others have the same problem as me.

For tempo and tempoval opcodes,
I found in the manual for -t or --tempo flag the line: WARNING: this mode of operation is experimental and may be unreliable.

I think this line should be also included in the tempo and tempoval opcodes manual pages.

And why to keep unreliable opcode(s) and flag(s) in csound?

Best,
René





2009/11/24 Jacob Joaquin <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>

> > I ran your csd on os x, and also got zeros. In my experience, the > tempo opcodes don't really ...