/usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through all these plugins and download stuff I don't need, and rename plugins all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty but with more and more releases I end up wanting to break things because none of these things are included, or for some reason I have to rename things.  And it's always things I don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for general operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't through some already.  
I... just... don't....

If these things are required to run, why are these things not in the release and named properly?  And if they aren't required to run csound why can I not just be given a warning and move on.

really, really frustrated...
please help

p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause csound can't see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my keyboard

once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just cannot wrap my head around why more and more of these things are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not a fatal error/exit program condition in my view.  But still,  why won't...
.. I don't... even.....

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What OS are you using? And perhaps this was just a mistake in
packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for the person who is
packaging to realize as they may already have this library on their
system and would not see this error.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
> /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through all these plugins and download stuff I don't need, and rename plugins all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty but with more and more releases I end up wanting to break things because none of these things are included, or for some reason I have to rename things.  And it's always things I don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for general operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't through some already.
> I... just... don't....
>
> If these things are required to run, why are these things not in the release and named properly?  And if they aren't required to run csound why can I not just be given a warning and move on.
>
> really, really frustrated...
> please help
>
> p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause csound can't see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my keyboard
>
> once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just cannot wrap my head around why more and more of these things are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not a fatal error/exit program condition in my view.  But still,  why won't...
> .. I don't... even.....
>
> ?
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I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10) 

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:

> From: Steven Yi 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
> What OS are you using? And perhaps
> this was just a mistake in
> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for the person
> who is
> packaging to realize as they may already have this library
> on their
> system and would not see this error.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
> wrote:
> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared
> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> >
> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T
> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through all these
> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and rename plugins
> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty but with
> more and more releases I end up wanting to break things
> because none of these things are included, or for some
> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always things I
> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for general
> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't
> through some already.
> > I... just... don't....
> >
> > If these things are required to run, why are these
> things not in the release and named properly?  And if they
> aren't required to run csound why can I not just be given a
> warning and move on.
> >
> > really, really frustrated...
> > please help
> >
> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and
> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause csound can't
> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my keyboard
> >
> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just
> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of these things
> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not a fatal
> error/exit program condition in my view.  But still,  why
> won't...
> > .. I don't... even.....
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
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Did you use apt-get to install Csound from repos or did you download
Csound separately?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
> I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Yi 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
>> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>> this was just a mistake in
>> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for the person
>> who is
>> packaging to realize as they may already have this library
>> on their
>> system and would not see this error.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
>> wrote:
>> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared
>> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No
>> such file or directory
>> >
>> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T
>> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through all these
>> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and rename plugins
>> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty but with
>> more and more releases I end up wanting to break things
>> because none of these things are included, or for some
>> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always things I
>> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for general
>> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't
>> through some already.
>> > I... just... don't....
>> >
>> > If these things are required to run, why are these
>> things not in the release and named properly?  And if they
>> aren't required to run csound why can I not just be given a
>> warning and move on.
>> >
>> > really, really frustrated...
>> > please help
>> >
>> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and
>> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause csound can't
>> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my keyboard
>> >
>> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just
>> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of these things
>> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not a fatal
>> error/exit program condition in my view.  But still,  why
>> won't...
>> > .. I don't... even.....
>> >
>> > ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
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I have requested that this message be renamed from an error to a
warning, and it hasn't happened. It is not an error, it should only be
a warning.

If there are no objections, I will go ahead and change the code myself
so that this message is indeed just a warning, and I may even go ahead
and disable the printout by default.

Repeat: this message does not mean anything is actually wrong,
everything will still work.

Regards,
Mike Gogins

On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
> What OS are you using? And perhaps this was just a mistake in
> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for the person who is
> packaging to realize as they may already have this library on their
> system and would not see this error.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
>> /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared libraries:
>> libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.
>>  Why do I have to go through all these plugins and download stuff I don't
>> need, and rename plugins all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty
>> but with more and more releases I end up wanting to break things because
>> none of these things are included, or for some reason I have to rename
>> things.  And it's always things I don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>> for general operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't
>> through some already.
>> I... just... don't....
>>
>> If these things are required to run, why are these things not in the
>> release and named properly?  And if they aren't required to run csound why
>> can I not just be given a warning and move on.
>>
>> really, really frustrated...
>> please help
>>
>> p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and i've installed, then
>> copied it everywhere cause csound can't see it, and i'm still smashing my
>> head on my keyboard
>>
>> once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just cannot wrap my head
>> around why more and more of these things are happening with each new
>> RELEASE.  This is not a fatal error/exit program condition in my view.
>>  But still,  why won't...
>> .. I don't... even.....
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
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downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I can't handle
.

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:

> From: Steven Yi 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
> from repos or did you download
> Csound separately?
> 
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
> wrote:
> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
> loading?)
> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
> >> this was just a mistake in
> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for
> the person
> >> who is
> >> packaging to realize as they may already have this
> library
> >> on their
> >> system and would not see this error.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
> >> wrote:
> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while
> loading shared
> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object
> file: No
> >> such file or directory
> >> >
> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.
>  I DON"T
> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through
> all these
> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and
> rename plugins
> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty
> but with
> >> more and more releases I end up wanting to break
> things
> >> because none of these things are included, or for
> some
> >> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always
> things I
> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for
> general
> >> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.
>  I wen't
> >> through some already.
> >> > I... just... don't....
> >> >
> >> > If these things are required to run, why are
> these
> >> things not in the release and named properly?
>  And if they
> >> aren't required to run csound why can I not just
> be given a
> >> warning and move on.
> >> >
> >> > really, really frustrated...
> >> > please help
> >> >
> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse
> thing and
> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause
> csound can't
> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my
> keyboard
> >> >
> >> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.
>  I just
> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of
> these things
> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not
> a fatal
> >> error/exit program condition in my view.  But
> still,  why
> >> won't...
> >> > .. I don't... even.....
> >> >
> >> > ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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for the love of csound please do!

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:

> From: Michael Gogins 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:40 PM
> I have requested that this message be
> renamed from an error to a
> warning, and it hasn't happened. It is not an error, it
> should only be
> a warning.
> 
> If there are no objections, I will go ahead and change the
> code myself
> so that this message is indeed just a warning, and I may
> even go ahead
> and disable the printout by default.
> 
> Repeat: this message does not mean anything is actually
> wrong,
> everything will still work.
> 
> Regards,
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Just in case you are interested in what is happening, Csound loads
plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded modules by scanning
configured directories, loading all shared libraries found, and trying
to open certain named Csound-specific functions. If Csound loads a
library and does not find any Csound-specific functions, it prints
this message. The libraries are then unloaded and the only cost is the
time spent loading the library and looking for the functions. On most
computers this time is truly trivial. And, this only happens if for
some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found in the configured
directory or directories.

The real purpose of the message is alert users, and above people
maintaining the Csound installers or people building Csound from
scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in Csound-specific
directories.

Regards,
Mike

On 11/6/09, Alex Drader  wrote:
> I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Yi 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
>> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>> this was just a mistake in
>> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for the person
>> who is
>> packaging to realize as they may already have this library
>> on their
>> system and would not see this error.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
>> wrote:
>> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while loading shared
>> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object file: No
>> such file or directory
>> >
>> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.  I DON"T
>> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through all these
>> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and rename plugins
>> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty but with
>> more and more releases I end up wanting to break things
>> because none of these things are included, or for some
>> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always things I
>> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for general
>> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.  I wen't
>> through some already.
>> > I... just... don't....
>> >
>> > If these things are required to run, why are these
>> things not in the release and named properly?  And if they
>> aren't required to run csound why can I not just be given a
>> warning and move on.
>> >
>> > really, really frustrated...
>> > please help
>> >
>> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse thing and
>> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause csound can't
>> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my keyboard
>> >
>> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.  I just
>> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of these things
>> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not a fatal
>> error/exit program condition in my view.  But still,  why
>> won't...
>> > .. I don't... even.....
>> >
>> > ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
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T

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:

> From: Michael Gogins 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
> Just in case you are interested in
> what is happening, Csound loads
> plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded modules by
> scanning
> configured directories, loading all shared libraries found,
> and trying
> to open certain named Csound-specific functions. If Csound
> loads a
> library and does not find any Csound-specific functions, it
> prints
> this message. The libraries are then unloaded and the only
> cost is the
> time spent loading the library and looking for the
> functions. On most
> computers this time is truly trivial. And, this only
> happens if for
> some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found in the
> configured
> directory or directories.
> 
> The real purpose of the message is alert users, and above
> people
> maintaining the Csound installers or people building Csound
> from
> scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in
> Csound-specific
> directories.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> On 11/6/09, Alex Drader 
> wrote:
> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
> loading?)
> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
> >> this was just a mistake in
> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for
> the person
> >> who is
> >> packaging to realize as they may already have this
> library
> >> on their
> >> system and would not see this error.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
> >> wrote:
> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while
> loading shared
> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object
> file: No
> >> such file or directory
> >> >
> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this
> thing.  I DON"T
> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go
> through all these
> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and
> rename plugins
> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds
> nasty but with
> >> more and more releases I end up wanting to break
> things
> >> because none of these things are included, or for
> some
> >> reason I have to rename things.  And it's
> always things I
> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for
> general
> >> operation.  This is only the present
> obstacle.  I wen't
> >> through some already.
> >> > I... just... don't....
> >> >
> >> > If these things are required to run, why are
> these
> >> things not in the release and named
> properly?  And if they
> >> aren't required to run csound why can I not just
> be given a
> >> warning and move on.
> >> >
> >> > really, really frustrated...
> >> > please help
> >> >
> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse
> thing and
> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause
> csound can't
> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my
> keyboard
> >> >
> >> > once again, sorry if this email sounds
> rude.  I just
> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of
> these things
> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is
> not a fatal
> >> error/exit program condition in my view.  But
> still,  why
> >> won't...
> >> > .. I don't... even.....
> >> >
> >> > ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
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Thanks for the reply.  I knew this but It's just that if it's not a core component, can I just have a command-line option to skip through, and run my code, and not be completely rejected.  I mean I have this thing installed and pasted everywhere, cause csound STILL can't find it

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:

> From: Michael Gogins 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
> Just in case you are interested in
> what is happening, Csound loads
> plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded modules by
> scanning
> configured directories, loading all shared libraries found,
> and trying
> to open certain named Csound-specific functions. If Csound
> loads a
> library and does not find any Csound-specific functions, it
> prints
> this message. The libraries are then unloaded and the only
> cost is the
> time spent loading the library and looking for the
> functions. On most
> computers this time is truly trivial. And, this only
> happens if for
> some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found in the
> configured
> directory or directories.
> 
> The real purpose of the message is alert users, and above
> people
> maintaining the Csound installers or people building Csound
> from
> scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in
> Csound-specific
> directories.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
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Actually, I think I misunderstood your original message. I thought you
were saying that Csound scanned this shared library and printed an
error (people have complained about this before, hence my confusion).

But I think what is happening is Csound loads an opcode, but the
opcode can't find a shared library it needs. So, Csound crashes.
That's what happens, right?

Regards,
Mike

On 11/6/09, Alex Drader  wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.  I knew this but It's just that if it's not a core
> component, can I just have a command-line option to skip through, and run my
> code, and not be completely rejected.  I mean I have this thing installed
> and pasted everywhere, cause csound STILL can't find it
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>
>> From: Michael Gogins 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
>> Just in case you are interested in
>> what is happening, Csound loads
>> plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded modules by
>> scanning
>> configured directories, loading all shared libraries found,
>> and trying
>> to open certain named Csound-specific functions. If Csound
>> loads a
>> library and does not find any Csound-specific functions, it
>> prints
>> this message. The libraries are then unloaded and the only
>> cost is the
>> time spent loading the library and looking for the
>> functions. On most
>> computers this time is truly trivial. And, this only
>> happens if for
>> some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found in the
>> configured
>> directory or directories.
>>
>> The real purpose of the message is alert users, and above
>> people
>> maintaining the Csound installers or people building Csound
>> from
>> scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in
>> Csound-specific
>> directories.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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correct

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:

> From: Michael Gogins 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:56 PM
> Actually, I think I misunderstood
> your original message. I thought you
> were saying that Csound scanned this shared library and
> printed an
> error (people have complained about this before, hence my
> confusion).
> 
> But I think what is happening is Csound loads an opcode,
> but the
> opcode can't find a shared library it needs. So, Csound
> crashes.
> That's what happens, right?
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> On 11/6/09, Alex Drader 
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply.  I knew this but It's just
> that if it's not a core
> > component, can I just have a command-line option to
> skip through, and run my
> > code, and not be completely rejected.  I mean I
> have this thing installed
> > and pasted everywhere, cause csound STILL can't find
> it
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Michael Gogins 
> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
> to skip loading?)
> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
> >> Just in case you are interested in
> >> what is happening, Csound loads
> >> plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded
> modules by
> >> scanning
> >> configured directories, loading all shared
> libraries found,
> >> and trying
> >> to open certain named Csound-specific functions.
> If Csound
> >> loads a
> >> library and does not find any Csound-specific
> functions, it
> >> prints
> >> this message. The libraries are then unloaded and
> the only
> >> cost is the
> >> time spent loading the library and looking for
> the
> >> functions. On most
> >> computers this time is truly trivial. And, this
> only
> >> happens if for
> >> some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found
> in the
> >> configured
> >> directory or directories.
> >>
> >> The real purpose of the message is alert users,
> and above
> >> people
> >> maintaining the Csound installers or people
> building Csound
> >> from
> >> scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in
> >> Csound-specific
> >> directories.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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I'd recommend using apt-get to download the version that Felipe has
managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll have all the
dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
> downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I can't handle
> .
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Yi 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>> from repos or did you download
>> Csound separately?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>> wrote:
>> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
>> loading?)
>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
>> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>> >> this was just a mistake in
>> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for
>> the person
>> >> who is
>> >> packaging to realize as they may already have this
>> library
>> >> on their
>> >> system and would not see this error.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while
>> loading shared
>> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object
>> file: No
>> >> such file or directory
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.
>>  I DON"T
>> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through
>> all these
>> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and
>> rename plugins
>> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty
>> but with
>> >> more and more releases I end up wanting to break
>> things
>> >> because none of these things are included, or for
>> some
>> >> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always
>> things I
>> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for
>> general
>> >> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.
>>  I wen't
>> >> through some already.
>> >> > I... just... don't....
>> >> >
>> >> > If these things are required to run, why are
>> these
>> >> things not in the release and named properly?
>>  And if they
>> >> aren't required to run csound why can I not just
>> be given a
>> >> warning and move on.
>> >> >
>> >> > really, really frustrated...
>> >> > please help
>> >> >
>> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse
>> thing and
>> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause
>> csound can't
>> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my
>> keyboard
>> >> >
>> >> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.
>>  I just
>> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of
>> these things
>> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not
>> a fatal
>> >> error/exit program condition in my view.  But
>> still,  why
>> >> won't...
>> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>> >> >
>> >> > ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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special repository?

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:

> From: Steven Yi 
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
> I'd recommend using apt-get to
> download the version that Felipe has
> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
> have all the
> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
> wrote:
> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
> can't handle
> > .
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
> to skip loading?)
> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
> >> from repos or did you download
> >> Csound separately?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
> >> >
> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
> to skip
> >> loading?)
> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
> PM
> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
> >> >> this was just a mistake in
> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
> problem for
> >> the person
> >> >> who is
> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
> have this
> >> library
> >> >> on their
> >> >> system and would not see this error.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
> Drader 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
> while
> >> loading shared
> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
> shared object
> >> file: No
> >> >> such file or directory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
> this thing.
> >>  I DON"T
> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
> go through
> >> all these
> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
> and
> >> rename plugins
> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
> sounds nasty
> >> but with
> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
> to break
> >> things
> >> >> because none of these things are
> included, or for
> >> some
> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
> it's always
> >> things I
> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
> for
> >> general
> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
> obstacle.
> >>  I wen't
> >> >> through some already.
> >> >> > I... just... don't....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
> why are
> >> these
> >> >> things not in the release and named
> properly?
> >>  And if they
> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
> not just
> >> be given a
> >> >> warning and move on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
> >> >> > please help
> >> >> >
> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
> wiiuse
> >> thing and
> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
> cause
> >> csound can't
> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
> my
> >> keyboard
> >> >> >
> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
> sounds rude.
> >>  I just
> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
> more of
> >> these things
> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>  This is not
> >> a fatal
> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>  But
> >> still,  why
> >> >> won't...
> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ?
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I will see if there some way to catch these errors and prevent Csound
from crashing. This would only be done while trying to load opcodes
and other Csound modules, not for shared libraries that the Csound
engine itself needs.

Regards,
Mike

On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
> I'd recommend using apt-get to download the version that Felipe has
> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll have all the
> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
>> downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.  I was compiling from
>> cvs but that's a nightmare now I can't handle
>> .
>>
>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>> from repos or did you download
>>> Csound separately?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>> >
>>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
>>> loading?)
>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
>>> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>> >> this was just a mistake in
>>> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a problem for
>>> the person
>>> >> who is
>>> >> packaging to realize as they may already have this
>>> library
>>> >> on their
>>> >> system and would not see this error.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex Drader 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error while
>>> loading shared
>>> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open shared object
>>> file: No
>>> >> such file or directory
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use this thing.
>>>  I DON"T
>>> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to go through
>>> all these
>>> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need, and
>>> rename plugins
>>> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email sounds nasty
>>> but with
>>> >> more and more releases I end up wanting to break
>>> things
>>> >> because none of these things are included, or for
>>> some
>>> >> reason I have to rename things.  And it's always
>>> things I
>>> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary for
>>> general
>>> >> operation.  This is only the present obstacle.
>>>  I wen't
>>> >> through some already.
>>> >> > I... just... don't....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If these things are required to run, why are
>>> these
>>> >> things not in the release and named properly?
>>>  And if they
>>> >> aren't required to run csound why can I not just
>>> be given a
>>> >> warning and move on.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > really, really frustrated...
>>> >> > please help
>>> >> >
>>> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this wiiuse
>>> thing and
>>> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere cause
>>> csound can't
>>> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on my
>>> keyboard
>>> >> >
>>> >> > once again, sorry if this email sounds rude.
>>>  I just
>>> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and more of
>>> these things
>>> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.  This is not
>>> a fatal
>>> >> error/exit program condition in my view.  But
>>> still,  why
>>> >> won't...
>>> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ?
>>> >> >
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No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
virtual machine to test this)

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
> special repository?
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Yi 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>> download the version that Felipe has
>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>> have all the
>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
>> wrote:
>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>> can't handle
>> > .
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>> to skip loading?)
>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>> >> from repos or did you download
>> >> Csound separately?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>> to skip
>> >> loading?)
>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>> PM
>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>> problem for
>> >> the person
>> >> >> who is
>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
>> have this
>> >> library
>> >> >> on their
>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>> Drader 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>> while
>> >> loading shared
>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>> shared object
>> >> file: No
>> >> >> such file or directory
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
>> this thing.
>> >>  I DON"T
>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>> go through
>> >> all these
>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>> and
>> >> rename plugins
>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>> sounds nasty
>> >> but with
>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
>> to break
>> >> things
>> >> >> because none of these things are
>> included, or for
>> >> some
>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
>> it's always
>> >> things I
>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>> for
>> >> general
>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
>> obstacle.
>> >>  I wen't
>> >> >> through some already.
>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
>> why are
>> >> these
>> >> >> things not in the release and named
>> properly?
>> >>  And if they
>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
>> not just
>> >> be given a
>> >> >> warning and move on.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
>> >> >> > please help
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
>> wiiuse
>> >> thing and
>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>> cause
>> >> csound can't
>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>> my
>> >> keyboard
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
>> sounds rude.
>> >>  I just
>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>> more of
>> >> these things
>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>  This is not
>> >> a fatal
>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>  But
>> >> still,  why
>> >> >> won't...
>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ?
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On OSX, if  a plugin opcode dependency is not found, the opcode is not  
loaded, but Csound still runs.

Victor


On 6 Nov 2009, at 18:57, Alex Drader wrote:

> correct
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>
>> From: Michael Gogins 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip  
>> loading?)
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:56 PM
>> Actually, I think I misunderstood
>> your original message. I thought you
>> were saying that Csound scanned this shared library and
>> printed an
>> error (people have complained about this before, hence my
>> confusion).
>>
>> But I think what is happening is Csound loads an opcode,
>> but the
>> opcode can't find a shared library it needs. So, Csound
>> crashes.
>> That's what happens, right?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/6/09, Alex Drader 
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply.  I knew this but It's just
>> that if it's not a core
>>> component, can I just have a command-line option to
>> skip through, and run my
>>> code, and not be completely rejected.  I mean I
>> have this thing installed
>>> and pasted everywhere, cause csound STILL can't find
>> it
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Michael Gogins 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Michael Gogins 
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>> to skip loading?)
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
>>>> Just in case you are interested in
>>>> what is happening, Csound loads
>>>> plugin opcodes and other dynamically loaded
>> modules by
>>>> scanning
>>>> configured directories, loading all shared
>> libraries found,
>>>> and trying
>>>> to open certain named Csound-specific functions.
>> If Csound
>>>> loads a
>>>> library and does not find any Csound-specific
>> functions, it
>>>> prints
>>>> this message. The libraries are then unloaded and
>> the only
>>>> cost is the
>>>> time spent loading the library and looking for
>> the
>>>> functions. On most
>>>> computers this time is truly trivial. And, this
>> only
>>>> happens if for
>>>> some reason non-Csound shared libraries are found
>> in the
>>>> configured
>>>> directory or directories.
>>>>
>>>> The real purpose of the message is alert users,
>> and above
>>>> people
>>>> maintaining the Csound installers or people
>> building Csound
>>>> from
>>>> scratch, that non-Csound files have been found in
>>>> Csound-specific
>>>> directories.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi Alex,

On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.

steven

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
> virtual machine to test this)
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
>> special repository?
>>
>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>> have all the
>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
>>> wrote:
>>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>> can't handle
>>> > .
>>> >
>>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>> to skip loading?)
>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>> >> from repos or did you download
>>> >> Csound separately?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>> to skip
>>> >> loading?)
>>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>> PM
>>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
>>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>> problem for
>>> >> the person
>>> >> >> who is
>>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
>>> have this
>>> >> library
>>> >> >> on their
>>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>> Drader 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>> while
>>> >> loading shared
>>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>> shared object
>>> >> file: No
>>> >> >> such file or directory
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>> this thing.
>>> >>  I DON"T
>>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>> go through
>>> >> all these
>>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>> and
>>> >> rename plugins
>>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>> sounds nasty
>>> >> but with
>>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>> to break
>>> >> things
>>> >> >> because none of these things are
>>> included, or for
>>> >> some
>>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>> it's always
>>> >> things I
>>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>> for
>>> >> general
>>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
>>> obstacle.
>>> >>  I wen't
>>> >> >> through some already.
>>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
>>> why are
>>> >> these
>>> >> >> things not in the release and named
>>> properly?
>>> >>  And if they
>>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>> not just
>>> >> be given a
>>> >> >> warning and move on.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
>>> >> >> > please help
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
>>> wiiuse
>>> >> thing and
>>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>> cause
>>> >> csound can't
>>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>> my
>>> >> keyboard
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
>>> sounds rude.
>>> >>  I just
>>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>> more of
>>> >> these things
>>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>  This is not
>>> >> a fatal
>>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>  But
>>> >> still,  why
>>> >> >> won't...
>>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ?
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And how is this implemented?

Regards,
Mike

On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
>
> steven
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
>> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
>> virtual machine to test this)
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
>>> special repository?
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
>>>> loading?)
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>>> have all the
>>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>>> can't handle
>>>> > .
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>> to skip loading?)
>>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>>> >> from repos or did you download
>>>> >> Csound separately?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>> to skip
>>>> >> loading?)
>>>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>>> PM
>>>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
>>>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>>> problem for
>>>> >> the person
>>>> >> >> who is
>>>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
>>>> have this
>>>> >> library
>>>> >> >> on their
>>>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>>> Drader 
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>>> while
>>>> >> loading shared
>>>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>>> shared object
>>>> >> file: No
>>>> >> >> such file or directory
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>>> this thing.
>>>> >>  I DON"T
>>>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>>> go through
>>>> >> all these
>>>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>>> and
>>>> >> rename plugins
>>>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>>> sounds nasty
>>>> >> but with
>>>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>>> to break
>>>> >> things
>>>> >> >> because none of these things are
>>>> included, or for
>>>> >> some
>>>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>>> it's always
>>>> >> things I
>>>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>>> for
>>>> >> general
>>>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
>>>> obstacle.
>>>> >>  I wen't
>>>> >> >> through some already.
>>>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
>>>> why are
>>>> >> these
>>>> >> >> things not in the release and named
>>>> properly?
>>>> >>  And if they
>>>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>>> not just
>>>> >> be given a
>>>> >> >> warning and move on.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
>>>> >> >> > please help
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
>>>> wiiuse
>>>> >> thing and
>>>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>>> cause
>>>> >> csound can't
>>>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>>> my
>>>> >> keyboard
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
>>>> sounds rude.
>>>> >>  I just
>>>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>>> more of
>>>> >> these things
>>>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>>  This is not
>>>> >> a fatal
>>>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>>  But
>>>> >> still,  why
>>>> >> >> won't...
>>>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
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Is this referring to Victor's email?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> And how is this implemented?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
>> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
>>> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
>>> virtual machine to test this)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
>>>> special repository?
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
>>>>> loading?)
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>>>> have all the
>>>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>>>> can't handle
>>>>> > .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>> to skip loading?)
>>>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>>>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>>>> >> from repos or did you download
>>>>> >> Csound separately?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>> to skip
>>>>> >> loading?)
>>>>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>>>> PM
>>>>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>>>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
>>>>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>>>> problem for
>>>>> >> the person
>>>>> >> >> who is
>>>>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
>>>>> have this
>>>>> >> library
>>>>> >> >> on their
>>>>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>>>> Drader 
>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>>>> while
>>>>> >> loading shared
>>>>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>>>> shared object
>>>>> >> file: No
>>>>> >> >> such file or directory
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>>>> this thing.
>>>>> >>  I DON"T
>>>>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>>>> go through
>>>>> >> all these
>>>>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> rename plugins
>>>>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>>>> sounds nasty
>>>>> >> but with
>>>>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>>>> to break
>>>>> >> things
>>>>> >> >> because none of these things are
>>>>> included, or for
>>>>> >> some
>>>>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>>>> it's always
>>>>> >> things I
>>>>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>>>> for
>>>>> >> general
>>>>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
>>>>> obstacle.
>>>>> >>  I wen't
>>>>> >> >> through some already.
>>>>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
>>>>> why are
>>>>> >> these
>>>>> >> >> things not in the release and named
>>>>> properly?
>>>>> >>  And if they
>>>>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>>>> not just
>>>>> >> be given a
>>>>> >> >> warning and move on.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
>>>>> >> >> > please help
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
>>>>> wiiuse
>>>>> >> thing and
>>>>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>>>> cause
>>>>> >> csound can't
>>>>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>>>> my
>>>>> >> keyboard
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
>>>>> sounds rude.
>>>>> >>  I just
>>>>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>>>> more of
>>>>> >> these things
>>>>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>>>  This is not
>>>>> >> a fatal
>>>>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>>>  But
>>>>> >> still,  why
>>>>> >> >> won't...
>>>>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > ?
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>  __________________________________________________________________
>>>>> >> >> > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from
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Yes.

Mike

On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Is this referring to Victor's email?
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Gogins 
> wrote:
>> And how is this implemented?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
>>> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
>>>> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
>>>> virtual machine to test this)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> special repository?
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip
>>>>>> loading?)
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>>>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>>>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>>>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>>>>> have all the
>>>>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>>>>> can't handle
>>>>>> > .
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>> to skip loading?)
>>>>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>>>>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>>>>> >> from repos or did you download
>>>>>> >> Csound separately?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>> to skip
>>>>>> >> loading?)
>>>>>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>>>>> PM
>>>>>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>>>>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
>>>>>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>>>>> problem for
>>>>>> >> the person
>>>>>> >> >> who is
>>>>>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
>>>>>> have this
>>>>>> >> library
>>>>>> >> >> on their
>>>>>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>>>>> Drader 
>>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >> loading shared
>>>>>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>>>>> shared object
>>>>>> >> file: No
>>>>>> >> >> such file or directory
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>>>>> this thing.
>>>>>> >>  I DON"T
>>>>>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>>>>> go through
>>>>>> >> all these
>>>>>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >> rename plugins
>>>>>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>>>>> sounds nasty
>>>>>> >> but with
>>>>>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>>>>> to break
>>>>>> >> things
>>>>>> >> >> because none of these things are
>>>>>> included, or for
>>>>>> >> some
>>>>>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>>>>> it's always
>>>>>> >> things I
>>>>>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >> general
>>>>>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
>>>>>> obstacle.
>>>>>> >>  I wen't
>>>>>> >> >> through some already.
>>>>>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
>>>>>> why are
>>>>>> >> these
>>>>>> >> >> things not in the release and named
>>>>>> properly?
>>>>>> >>  And if they
>>>>>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>>>>> not just
>>>>>> >> be given a
>>>>>> >> >> warning and move on.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
>>>>>> >> >> > please help
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
>>>>>> wiiuse
>>>>>> >> thing and
>>>>>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>>>>> cause
>>>>>> >> csound can't
>>>>>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> >> keyboard
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
>>>>>> sounds rude.
>>>>>> >>  I just
>>>>>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>>>>> more of
>>>>>> >> these things
>>>>>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>>>>  This is not
>>>>>> >> a fatal
>>>>>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>>>>  But
>>>>>> >> still,  why
>>>>>> >> >> won't...
>>>>>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > ?
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>  __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> >> >> > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from
>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>> >> on the
>>>>>> >> >> web, and bookmark your favourite sites.
>>>>>> Download
>>>>>> >> it now
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>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
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>>>>>> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> >> >> with body "unsubscribe csound"
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>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
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>>>>>> safer, easier.
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>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail.
>>>>>>  Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or
>>>>>> register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>
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My impression is that this is an OS thing. The code now is the same as  
in Linux (using dlopen), but it seems to behave differently.

Victor
On 6 Nov 2009, at 21:05, Michael Gogins wrote:

> Yes.
>
> Mike
>
> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Is this referring to Victor's email?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Gogins > >
>> wrote:
>>> And how is this implemented?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>
>>>> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
>>>> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
>>>>
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi   
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't  
>>>>> installed on
>>>>> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu  
>>>>> 9.10 in a
>>>>> virtual machine to test this)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> special repository?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to  
>>>>>>> skip
>>>>>>> loading?)
>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>>>>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>>>>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>>>>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>>>>>> have all the
>>>>>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader >>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>>>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>>>>>> can't handle
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>>> to skip loading?)
>>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>>>>>>>> from repos or did you download
>>>>>>>>> Csound separately?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader >>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>>> to skip
>>>>>>>>> loading?)
>>>>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>> this was just a mistake in
>>>>>>>>>>> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>>>>>> problem for
>>>>>>>>> the person
>>>>>>>>>>> who is
>>>>>>>>>>> packaging to realize as they may already
>>>>>>> have this
>>>>>>>>> library
>>>>>>>>>>> on their
>>>>>>>>>>> system and would not see this error.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>>>>>> Drader 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> loading shared
>>>>>>>>>>> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>>>>>> shared object
>>>>>>>>> file: No
>>>>>>>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>>>>>> this thing.
>>>>>>>>>  I DON"T
>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>>>>>> go through
>>>>>>>>> all these
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> rename plugins
>>>>>>>>>>> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>>>>>> sounds nasty
>>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>>>>> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>>>>>> to break
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> because none of these things are
>>>>>>> included, or for
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>>>>>> it's always
>>>>>>>>> things I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>> operation.  This is only the present
>>>>>>> obstacle.
>>>>>>>>>  I wen't
>>>>>>>>>>> through some already.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I... just... don't....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If these things are required to run,
>>>>>>> why are
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> things not in the release and named
>>>>>>> properly?
>>>>>>>>>  And if they
>>>>>>>>>>> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>>>>>> not just
>>>>>>>>> be given a
>>>>>>>>>>> warning and move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> really, really frustrated...
>>>>>>>>>>>> please help
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> p.s.  I did go and download this
>>>>>>> wiiuse
>>>>>>>>> thing and
>>>>>>>>>>> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>> csound can't
>>>>>>>>>>> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> once again, sorry if this email
>>>>>>> sounds rude.
>>>>>>>>>  I just
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>>>>>> more of
>>>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>>>>>> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>>>>>  This is not
>>>>>>>>> a fatal
>>>>>>>>>>> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>>>>>  But
>>>>>>>>> still,  why
>>>>>>>>>>> won't...
>>>>>>>>>>>> .. I don't... even.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>> web, and bookmark your favourite sites.
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>>>>>>>>> it now
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I was afraid of that...

Regards,
Mike

On 11/6/09, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> My impression is that this is an OS thing. The code now is the same as
> in Linux (using dlopen), but it seems to behave differently.
>
> Victor
> On 6 Nov 2009, at 21:05, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Is this referring to Victor's email?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Gogins >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> And how is this implemented?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
>>>>> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> steven
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't
>>>>>> installed on
>>>>>> Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu
>>>>>> 9.10 in a
>>>>>> virtual machine to test this)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> special repository?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to
>>>>>>>> skip
>>>>>>>> loading?)
>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
>>>>>>>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
>>>>>>>> download the version that Felipe has
>>>>>>>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
>>>>>>>> have all the
>>>>>>>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader >>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
>>>>>>>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
>>>>>>>> can't handle
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>>>> to skip loading?)
>>>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
>>>>>>>>>> from repos or did you download
>>>>>>>>>> Csound separately?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader >>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Steven Yi 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
>>>>>>>> to skip
>>>>>>>>>> loading?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> What OS are you using? And perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>>> this was just a mistake in
>>>>>>>>>>>> packaging? It happens, and can be a
>>>>>>>> problem for
>>>>>>>>>> the person
>>>>>>>>>>>> who is
>>>>>>>>>>>> packaging to realize as they may already
>>>>>>>> have this
>>>>>>>>>> library
>>>>>>>>>>>> on their
>>>>>>>>>>>> system and would not see this error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
>>>>>>>> Drader 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> loading shared
>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
>>>>>>>> shared object
>>>>>>>>>> file: No
>>>>>>>>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't ever plan or wish to use
>>>>>>>> this thing.
>>>>>>>>>>  I DON"T
>>>>>>>>>>>> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
>>>>>>>> go through
>>>>>>>>>> all these
>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> rename plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>> all the time.  Sorry If this email
>>>>>>>> sounds nasty
>>>>>>>>>> but with
>>>>>>>>>>>> more and more releases I end up wanting
>>>>>>>> to break
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>> because none of these things are
>>>>>>>> included, or for
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason I have to rename things.  And
>>>>>>>> it's always
>>>>>>>>>> things I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>> operation.  This is only the present
>>>>>>>> obstacle.
>>>>>>>>>>  I wen't
>>>>>>>>>>>> through some already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I... just... don't....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If these things are required to run,
>>>>>>>> why are
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> things not in the release and named
>>>>>>>> properly?
>>>>>>>>>>  And if they
>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't required to run csound why can I
>>>>>>>> not just
>>>>>>>>>> be given a
>>>>>>>>>>>> warning and move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really, really frustrated...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> p.s.  I did go and download this
>>>>>>>> wiiuse
>>>>>>>>>> thing and
>>>>>>>>>>>> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>>> csound can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once again, sorry if this email
>>>>>>>> sounds rude.
>>>>>>>>>>  I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot wrap my head around why more and
>>>>>>>> more of
>>>>>>>>>> these things
>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening with each new RELEASE.
>>>>>>>>  This is not
>>>>>>>>>> a fatal
>>>>>>>>>>>> error/exit program condition in my view.
>>>>>>>>  But
>>>>>>>>>> still,  why
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. I don't... even.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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Csound 5.11 was uploaded too late for the Ubuntu 9.10 import freeze. I
think you should be able to rebuild the package easily.

Note that the wii opcodes are not enabled (which should not be a problem
for you). I remember John said they were fragile/broken/somethin was
wrong. Also, it needs a wii library not in debian.

If you care about extra unneeded packages installed, you can do this:

Get the source from packages.debian.org/source/csound (dsc, tar.gz and
diff.gz files).
aptitude install pbuilder
pbuilder --create
pbuilder --build csound*.dsc

On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 15:57 -0500, Steven Yi wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 install, I opened Synaptic from the
> Administration menu and found Csound 5.10 available from there.
> 
> steven
> 
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> > No, there shouldn't be any special repository.  I haven't installed on
> > Ubuntu or Debian in a while though. (about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in a
> > virtual machine to test this)
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Drader  wrote:
> >> special repository?
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi  wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Steven Yi 
> >>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way to skip loading?)
> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >>> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:58 PM
> >>> I'd recommend using apt-get to
> >>> download the version that Felipe has
> >>> managed if you're on a debian/ubuntu system.  It'll
> >>> have all the
> >>> dependencies worked out and couldn't be easier to install.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Alex Drader 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > downloaded from sourceforge and used the installer.
> >>>  I was compiling from cvs but that's a nightmare now I
> >>> can't handle
> >>> > .
> >>> >
> >>> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >>> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
> >>> to skip loading?)
> >>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >>> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
> >>> >> Did you use apt-get to install Csound
> >>> >> from repos or did you download
> >>> >> Csound separately?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Alex Drader 
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > I'm using linux (ubuntu-studio 9.10)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steven Yi 
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> From: Steven Yi 
> >>> >> >> Subject: [Csnd] Re: libwiiuse.so (any way
> >>> to skip
> >>> >> loading?)
> >>> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >>> >> >> Received: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:33
> >>> PM
> >>> >> >> What OS are you using? And perhaps
> >>> >> >> this was just a mistake in
> >>> >> >> packaging? It happens, and can be a
> >>> problem for
> >>> >> the person
> >>> >> >> who is
> >>> >> >> packaging to realize as they may already
> >>> have this
> >>> >> library
> >>> >> >> on their
> >>> >> >> system and would not see this error.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alex
> >>> Drader 
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > /usr/local/bin/bin/csound: error
> >>> while
> >>> >> loading shared
> >>> >> >> libraries: libwiiuse.so: cannot open
> >>> shared object
> >>> >> file: No
> >>> >> >> such file or directory
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > I don't ever plan or wish to use
> >>> this thing.
> >>> >>  I DON"T
> >>> >> >> UNDERSTAND THIS MSG.  Why do I have to
> >>> go through
> >>> >> all these
> >>> >> >> plugins and download stuff I don't need,
> >>> and
> >>> >> rename plugins
> >>> >> >> all the time.  Sorry If this email
> >>> sounds nasty
> >>> >> but with
> >>> >> >> more and more releases I end up wanting
> >>> to break
> >>> >> things
> >>> >> >> because none of these things are
> >>> included, or for
> >>> >> some
> >>> >> >> reason I have to rename things.  And
> >>> it's always
> >>> >> things I
> >>> >> >> don't use, that "shouldn't" be necessary
> >>> for
> >>> >> general
> >>> >> >> operation.  This is only the present
> >>> obstacle.
> >>> >>  I wen't
> >>> >> >> through some already.
> >>> >> >> > I... just... don't....
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > If these things are required to run,
> >>> why are
> >>> >> these
> >>> >> >> things not in the release and named
> >>> properly?
> >>> >>  And if they
> >>> >> >> aren't required to run csound why can I
> >>> not just
> >>> >> be given a
> >>> >> >> warning and move on.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > really, really frustrated...
> >>> >> >> > please help
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > p.s.  I did go and download this
> >>> wiiuse
> >>> >> thing and
> >>> >> >> i've installed, then copied it everywhere
> >>> cause
> >>> >> csound can't
> >>> >> >> see it, and i'm still smashing my head on
> >>> my
> >>> >> keyboard
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > once again, sorry if this email
> >>> sounds rude.
> >>> >>  I just
> >>> >> >> cannot wrap my head around why more and
> >>> more of
> >>> >> these things
> >>> >> >> are happening with each new RELEASE.
> >>>  This is not
> >>> >> a fatal
> >>> >> >> error/exit program condition in my view.
> >>>  But
> >>> >> still,  why
> >>> >> >> won't...
> >>> >> >> > .. I don't... even.....
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > ?
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >>
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