I watched Dr. Boulanger's conference keynote on youtube, and that was the first time I learned about the existence of Cecilia 4.  I hadn't checked out Cecilia as I regarded it as rather dead and in a relatively obscure language. I was happy to learn that the project lives on and has migrated to a more standard language. The screenshots looked awesome on youtube, and although I haven't checked it out yet, I certainly plan to.

It was very hard for me to find Cecilia 4 -- almost all my searches took me to the old project at sourceforge.  I finally found it at http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ but if I hadn't known it existed I certainly wouldn't have stumbled on it.

The main CSound resources for finding out about available front ends are http://www.csounds.com/frontends/ and the Front Ends section of the manual http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/OviewFrontEnds.html and both of these only point to the old Cecilia, making it sound sort of obsolete. Shouldn't those be updated to point to Cecilia 4?

(Speaking of pointing out front ends, a link to Chuckk Hubbard's Rationale at http://www.badmuthahubbard.com/cgi-bin/rationaleinfo.py would be well worth including -- it's just the thing for someone who wants to follow the lead of Harry Partch in intonation. Although I decided it wasn't quite what I need just yet, I was certainly impressed.)

I have one more question: Dr. Boulanger mentioned in his address that we had all seen on "the list" that future versions of Cecilia would no longer support CSound.  What list is that? I searched on this one (the csound mailing list), but found no mention of the newer Cecilia at all.

Forrest

Dear community,
I've just downloaded cecilia 4.
But how can I install it on Ubuntu?
After unzipping the files I typed in python Cecilia.py but  only got

traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Cecilia.py", line 23, in <module>
    import wx
ImportError: No module named wx

2011/11/6 Forrest Cahoon <forrest.cahoon@gmail.com>

I watched Dr. Boulanger's conference keynote on youtube, and that was the first time I learned about the existence of Cecilia 4.  I hadn't checked out Cecilia as I regarded it as rather dead and in a relatively obscure language. I was happy to learn that the project lives on and has migrated to a more standard language. The screenshots looked awesome on youtube, and although I haven't checked it out yet, I certainly plan to.

It was very hard for me to find Cecilia 4 -- almost all my searches took me to the old project at sourceforge.  I finally found it at http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ but if I hadn't known it existed I certainly wouldn't have stumbled on it.

The main CSound resources for finding out about available front ends are http://www.csounds.com/frontends/ and the Front Ends section of the manual http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/OviewFrontEnds.html and both of these only point to the old Cecilia, making it sound sort of obsolete. Shouldn't those be updated to point to Cecilia 4?

(Speaking of pointing out front ends, a link to Chuckk Hubbard's Rationale at http://www.badmuthahubbard.com/cgi-bin/rationaleinfo.py would be well worth including -- it's just the thing for someone who wants to follow the lead of Harry Partch in intonation. Although I decided it wasn't quite what I need just yet, I was certainly impressed.)

I have one more question: Dr. Boulanger mentioned in his address that we had all seen on "the list" that future versions of Cecilia would no longer support CSound.  What list is that? I searched on this one (the csound mailing list), but found no mention of the newer Cecilia at all.

Forrest

I watched Dr. Boulanger's conference keynote on youtube, and that was the first time I learned about the existence of Cecilia 4.  I hadn't checked out Cecilia as I regarded it as rather dead and in a relatively obscure language. I was happy to learn that the project lives on and has migrated to a more standard language. The screenshots looked awesome on youtube, and although I haven't checked it out yet, I certainly plan to.

It was very hard for me to find Cecilia 4 -- almost all my searches took me to the old project at sourceforge.  I finally found it at http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ but if I hadn't known it existed I certainly wouldn't have stumbled on it.

The main CSound resources for finding out about available front ends are http://www.csounds.com/frontends/ and the Front Ends section of the manual http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/OviewFrontEnds.html and both of these only point to the old Cecilia, making it sound sort of obsolete. Shouldn't those be updated to point to Cecilia 4?

(Speaking of pointing out front ends, a link to Chuckk Hubbard's Rationale at http://www.badmuthahubbard.com/cgi-bin/rationaleinfo.py would be well worth including -- it's just the thing for someone who wants to follow the lead of Harry Partch in intonation. Although I decided it wasn't quite what I need just yet, I was certainly impressed.)

I have one more question: Dr. Boulanger mentioned in his address that we had all seen on "the list" that future versions of Cecilia would no longer support CSound.  What list is that? I searched on this one (the csound mailing list), but found no mention of the newer Cecilia at all.

Forrest

Olivier,

I Americas to hear that Cecilia will be moving forward with development.
I have always found it to be a fantastic tool. I am sorry to hear that it
will no longer have a csound backend. I feel Cecilia made it easy to quickly
 get started using opcodes.

That being said, I am also a pyo user, and excited at the thought of having
powerful gui front end for pyo. Could you give us an idea of some of the
features that Cecilia5 will support? What ui API will it use
(wxpython, pyslide)?

I have a python based composition environment, it would be great to be able
to integrate this with Cecilia5. Would this be possible?

Anthony

On 11/6/11, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2011/11/6 Forrest Cahoon <forrest.cahoon@gmail.com>
>
>> I watched Dr. Boulanger's conference keynote on youtube, and that was the
>> first time I learned about the existence of Cecilia 4.  I hadn't checked
>> out Cecilia as I regarded it as rather dead and in a relatively obscure
>> language. I was happy to learn that the project lives on and has migrated
>> to a more standard language. The screenshots looked awesome on youtube,
>> and
>> although I haven't checked it out yet, I certainly plan to.
>>
>> It was very hard for me to find Cecilia 4 -- almost all my searches took
>> me to the old project at sourceforge.  I finally found it at
>> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ but if I hadn't known it existed I
>> certainly wouldn't have stumbled on it.
>>
>> The main CSound resources for finding out about available front ends are
>> http://www.csounds.com/frontends/ and the Front Ends section of the
>> manual http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/OviewFrontEnds.html and both of
>> these only point to the old Cecilia, making it sound sort of obsolete.
>> Shouldn't those be updated to point to Cecilia 4?
>>
>
> Good point! But I think there should be a note that Cecilia4 is no more
> developed... Unless someone wants to take over the maintenance of the
> program. This is a pretty big project...
>
>
>>
>> (Speaking of pointing out front ends, a link to Chuckk Hubbard's
>> Rationale
>> at http://www.badmuthahubbard.com/cgi-bin/rationaleinfo.py would be well
>> worth including -- it's just the thing for someone who wants to follow
>> the
>> lead of Harry Partch in intonation. Although I decided it wasn't quite
>> what
>> I need just yet, I was certainly impressed.)
>>
>> I have one more question: Dr. Boulanger mentioned in his address that we
>> had all seen on "the list" that future versions of Cecilia would no
>> longer
>> support CSound.  What list is that? I searched on this one (the csound
>> mailing list), but found no mention of the newer Cecilia at all.
>>
>
> I think this was on csound-dev list. I'm in the final stage of Cecilia5
> development, this version uses pyo, my python dsp module. I planned to do
> the first release by the end of the year...
>
> Olivier
>
>
>>
>> Forrest
>>
>>
>

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