Here is a little Python project I am working on. It is still a work in
progress, but already shows the possibilities.
Put the 2 files ESMS.py and ESMS_parser.py in one folder, then run the
ESMS_parser.py.
On OS X (Linux ?) systems you should hear 2 measures of music with chords,
bass, snare, hihat and melody that follows the bass.

By examining the code and comments you should be able to generate your own
One Line Synth (OLS) and musical patterns.

Enjoy!

http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4988453/ESMS_parser.py
ESMS_parser.py 
http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4988453/ESMS.py ESMS.py 


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Python is really great for this kind of thing!

On 13 November 2011 13:21, zappfinger  wrote:
> Here is a little Python project I am working on. It is still a work in
> progress, but already shows the possibilities.
> Put the 2 files ESMS.py and ESMS_parser.py in one folder, then run the
> ESMS_parser.py.For those of u
> On OS X (Linux ?) systems you should hear 2 measures of music with chords,
> bass, snare, hihat and melody that follows the bass.
>
> By examining the code and comments you should be able to generate your own
> One Line Synth (OLS) and musical patterns.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4988453/ESMS_parser.py
> ESMS_parser.py
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4988453/ESMS.py ESMS.py
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I agree! It is a perfect marriage between my favourite programming language
and favourite music generating system.

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I can't wait to play with this!

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Works on Windows too! (Except not out of the box, but that's OK since
I too am a Python programmer). This is actually almost exactly what I
was thinking about implementing... although, where's the compressor?
It sounds like it could use one! Great overall, however.

On 11/13/11, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> I can't wait to play with this!
>
> On 11/13/11, zappfinger  wrote:
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>> language
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Good to hear!
A better version is coming up soon.

- functions add() and mul() take any number of arguments
- an optional 'out' field lets you assign the output name, very usefull
 
It might have a compressor too...

Richard

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Here is the improved version

- It has a better hihat - the older one s*cked
- instrument names are added as comments
- fixed some bugs (p4 and p5 were swapped ...)
- add() and mul() can have more than 2 arguments
- out variable added to change the output variable name

sorry, had no time to put the compressor in....

BTW, next versions will be put on my website, www.resona.nl, under software

Richard

http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS_parser.py
ESMS_parser.py 
http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS.py ESMS.py 




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Richard,

Quick question: How are you making those Nabble links?

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>
> - It has a better hihat - the older one s*cked
> - instrument names are added as comments
> - fixed some bugs (p4 and p5 were swapped ...)
> - add() and mul() can have more than 2 arguments
> - out variable added to change the output variable name
>
> sorry, had no time to put the compressor in....
>
> BTW, next versions will be put on my website, www.resona.nl, under software
>
> Richard
>
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS_parser.py
> ESMS_parser.py
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS.py ESMS.py
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Adam,

When you reply, under the button 'More options' you can upload files.

Richard

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This is a test attachment. BTW, the CSD doesn't work.

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It's attached, no http link for me though.

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>
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Richard,

I have two more suggestions about your algorithm: advance pos *after*
you add the notes to the score (unless you wanted the rest in the
beginning), and you can simply write your add and mul functions like
this:

def add(*args):
  return '(' + ' + '.join(args)+' / %s' % len(args) + ')'

for mixing audio signals (ugly, I know, but it works.)

Hope this helps,

Adam

On 11/13/11, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> It's attached, no http link for me though.
>
> On 11/13/11, Adam Puckett  wrote:
>> This is a test attachment. BTW, the CSD doesn't work.
>>
>> On 11/13/11, zappfinger  wrote:
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>>>
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Hi Adam,

Thanks for your suggestions.

I guess in the add function you mean:
def add(*args): 
  return '(' + ' + '.join(args)+' )/ %s' % len(args)

to scale down the signals?
It is not ugly, it is very Pythonic ;-)

BTW, I got your CSD file, it was attached...

Richard





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Hmm,

My previous way allowed you to mix string and other types, like in

mul(noise(), .5)

noise() returns a string, 'anoise' by default, and the output of mul() is
now: 'anoise*.5'

So I changed to code back to what it was, unless there is a Pythonic way to
do this...

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Yes, that is what I meant. Your add/mul functions should really look like this:

def add(*args):
  return '+'.join(args)

def mul(*args):
  return '*'.join(args)

I just tried it in the interactive shell, and it's a more compact way
to implement those functions.

One more thing: Instead of calling print (because it's called
different ways in Python 2 and 3), a version-agnostic approach to
printing to stdout would look like this:

def my_print(*args, file=None, sep=None, end=None):
  if file is None:
    from sys import stdout as file
  if sep is None:
    sep = ' '
  if end is None:
    end = ''
  file.write(sep.join(args)+end)

Hope this helps,

Adam

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>
> My previous way allowed you to mix string and other types, like in
>
> mul(noise(), .5)
>
> noise() returns a string, 'anoise' by default, and the output of mul() is
> now: 'anoise*.5'
>
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> do this...
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Hi,

Have you had a look at ounk?

http://code.google.com/p/ounk/

Cheers,
Andres

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>
> My previous way allowed you to mix string and other types, like in
>
> mul(noise(), .5)
>
> noise() returns a string, 'anoise' by default, and the output of mul() is
> now: 'anoise*.5'
>
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> do this...
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Yes, Ounk is wonderful!

I started this project to help me create CSD files...

Adam, this works with strings only. So you cannot use add(1,2), but would
have to use add('1','2')

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Richard,

You can use list comprehensions like this:

def add(*args):
  return '+'.join([str(i) for i in args])



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>
> I started this project to help me create CSD files...
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Yes! That is what I was looking for...

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Have you tried the my_print function?

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I cannot get it to work.
It does not like the *args before the other arguments, so I placed that at
the end.
Then I got the following error:

    my_print( flist )
  File "/Users/richard/Desktop/muziek/csoundTest/CsounDB/ESMS.py", line 247,
in my_print
    file.write(sep.join(args)+end) 
AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'write'

apparently because the flist is now replacing the default 'file' argument?




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Interesting...

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> the end.
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>     my_print( flist )
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> in my_print
>     file.write(sep.join(args)+end)
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Adam, 

And now for something completely different - but related:
 
I am thinking of extending the program with a MySQL database connection , to
store most code, UDO's etc.

In these modern days of computers and stuff it is madness that we have to
cut and paste bits of text into a .CSD file to make some noise. ;-)

What do you think?

Richard

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For me personally, why cut and paste when you have a quick reference?
However, I do understand how most people think because I interact with
them on a daily basis, and a MySQL database, if it would make your
environment more comfortable for you, would be a nice addition to your
growing API.

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>
> And now for something completely different - but related:
>
> I am thinking of extending the program with a MySQL database connection , to
> store most code, UDO's etc.
>
> In these modern days of computers and stuff it is madness that we have to
> cut and paste bits of text into a .CSD file to make some noise. ;-)
>
> What do you think?
>
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Looks very interesting!

The last few months I've been working on a rewrite of my Graphane 
library (also in Python), that makes it easy to write scores. I also 
intend to later manage orchestras with it; possibly using the same 
instrument storage as Blue (because I already have many instruments in 
there, and it allows parameterization of instruments).

Op 13/11/2011 23:57, zappfinger schreef:
> Here is the improved version
>
> - It has a better hihat - the older one s*cked
> - instrument names are added as comments
> - fixed some bugs (p4 and p5 were swapped ...)
> - add() and mul() can have more than 2 arguments
> - out variable added to change the output variable name
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> sorry, had no time to put the compressor in....
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> BTW, next versions will be put on my website, www.resona.nl, under software
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> Richard
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> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS_parser.py
> ESMS_parser.py
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/n4989295/ESMS.py ESMS.py
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Thanks, Mark. It is a start and still growing. I am curious for your work. 

I like the idea of Blue importing instruments and effects. Likewise I want
to import those too but also smaller building blocks like UDO's end ESMS
intruments.

Richard

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