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[Csnd] Elliott Carter

Date2012-11-07 12:27
FromDave Phillips
Subject[Csnd] Elliott Carter

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/arts/music/elliott-carter-avant-garde-composer-dies-at-103.html



Date2012-11-08 02:33
Fromluis jure
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Elliott Carter
on 2012-11-07 at 07:27 Dave Phillips wrote:

>
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/arts/music/elliott-carter-avant-garde-composer-dies-at-103.html

very sad news. i always appreciated his music and his ethics as a composer.
mi teacher, the late héctor tosar, also appreciated him very much. a real
no-nonsense composer, in my opinion.

i'm glad i got to see him attending a concert with one of his pieces in
NYC in january 2010, 101 years old at the time.


Date2012-11-08 15:09
From"\\js"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Elliott Carter
hi

On 11/7/12 21:33 , luis jure wrote:
> very sad news. i always appreciated his music and his ethics as a composer.

well, we all die sometime. but it's a real achievement to make it beyond 
100 years ... not many do.

i remember being very impressed with a movement for wind quintet that is 
just a single pitch [maybe also all within the same octave] that is 
passed through the ensemble.

carter- the extreme musical intellectual [like babbit or boulez], just 
writing a single pitch!

-- 
\js [http://or8.net/~johns/] -

Date2012-11-08 15:57
FromAnders Genell
Subject[Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Dear List! 

I am mostly using csound from an engineering perspective rather than from a musical one. I realize this is not the "intended" use, so it may be a bit much to hope for engineering tools within csound, but I always felt that particularly algorithmic composing is a exciting bridge between these disciplines and since csound lends itself so well to that area, maybe there is hope for my engineering (dark?) side. 

What I in this particular case was hoping to achieve is a standard 1/3 octave band filter bank - kind of like a multi band eq. Ideally both for analysis -  i.e. evaluating levels of each 1/3 octave band when running something through them - and sound modification, i.e. applying (negative) gain to each band to shape the outgoing spectrum. 

Could this be achieved using existing opcodes such as resony or similar?

Best regards,
/Anders

Date2012-11-08 16:13
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Sure. Apart from reson there are other bandpass filters you could try
out. Just set them up in parallel across the frequency range and enjoy
the show!

Rory.

Date2012-11-08 16:17
FromJustin Smith
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Out of the various bandpass filters, butbp is more likely to give a
clean output. Resonant filters in my understanding are designed more
for filtering as an effect than for utilitarian signal processing
(they introduce significant phase distortion and have lumpy
passbands).

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Anders Genell  wrote:
> Dear List!
>
> I am mostly using csound from an engineering perspective rather than from a musical one. I realize this is not the "intended" use, so it may be a bit much to hope for engineering tools within csound, but I always felt that particularly algorithmic composing is a exciting bridge between these disciplines and since csound lends itself so well to that area, maybe there is hope for my engineering (dark?) side.
>
> What I in this particular case was hoping to achieve is a standard 1/3 octave band filter bank - kind of like a multi band eq. Ideally both for analysis -  i.e. evaluating levels of each 1/3 octave band when running something through them - and sound modification, i.e. applying (negative) gain to each band to shape the outgoing spectrum.
>
> Could this be achieved using existing opcodes such as resony or similar?
>
> Best regards,
> /Anders
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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Date2012-11-08 17:01
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Try also eqfil, which is a good equaliser filter.

Victor
On 8 Nov 2012, at 15:57, Anders Genell wrote:

> Dear List! 
> 
> I am mostly using csound from an engineering perspective rather than from a musical one. I realize this is not the "intended" use, so it may be a bit much to hope for engineering tools within csound, but I always felt that particularly algorithmic composing is a exciting bridge between these disciplines and since csound lends itself so well to that area, maybe there is hope for my engineering (dark?) side. 
> 
> What I in this particular case was hoping to achieve is a standard 1/3 octave band filter bank - kind of like a multi band eq. Ideally both for analysis -  i.e. evaluating levels of each 1/3 octave band when running something through them - and sound modification, i.e. applying (negative) gain to each band to shape the outgoing spectrum. 
> 
> Could this be achieved using existing opcodes such as resony or similar?
> 
> Best regards,
> /Anders
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Date2012-11-08 20:23
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Here's a 1/3-octave graphic equaliser with user-defined number of bands.
It uses a function table to define the gains for each band. 

opcode Eq, a, aiipp
as1,ifreq,itab,ibnd,icnt xin
inxtf = ifreq*2^(1/3)
if (icnt >= ibnd) goto bank
if (inxtf > sr/2) goto bank
as1 Eq as1,inxtf,itab,ibnd,icnt+1
bank:
kgain table ibnd-icnt, itab
ibw = ifreq/1.5
as1 eqfil as1, ifreq, ibw, kgain
xout as1
endop


instr 1
ilowest = 100
imaxbands = 24
itab ftgen 0,0,32,-7,1,10,0.5,10,1,4,1
a1 diskin2 "jarrettm.wav",1
a2 Eq a1,ilowest,itab,imaxbands
outs a2,a2
endin



On 8 Nov 2012, at 15:57, Anders Genell wrote:

> Dear List! 
> 
> I am mostly using csound from an engineering perspective rather than from a musical one. I realize this is not the "intended" use, so it may be a bit much to hope for engineering tools within csound, but I always felt that particularly algorithmic composing is a exciting bridge between these disciplines and since csound lends itself so well to that area, maybe there is hope for my engineering (dark?) side. 
> 
> What I in this particular case was hoping to achieve is a standard 1/3 octave band filter bank - kind of like a multi band eq. Ideally both for analysis -  i.e. evaluating levels of each 1/3 octave band when running something through them - and sound modification, i.e. applying (negative) gain to each band to shape the outgoing spectrum. 
> 
> Could this be achieved using existing opcodes such as resony or similar?
> 
> Best regards,
> /Anders
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Date2012-11-08 20:42
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] 1/3 octave bands
Ooh, fantastic! Thank you very kindly!
Will try it out tomorrow...

Regards,
/Anders

8 nov 2012 kl. 21:23 skrev Victor Lazzarini :

> Here's a 1/3-octave graphic equaliser with user-defined number of bands.
> It uses a function table to define the gains for each band. 
> 
> opcode Eq, a, aiipp
> as1,ifreq,itab,ibnd,icnt xin
> inxtf = ifreq*2^(1/3)
> if (icnt >= ibnd) goto bank
> if (inxtf > sr/2) goto bank
> as1 Eq as1,inxtf,itab,ibnd,icnt+1
> bank:
> kgain table ibnd-icnt, itab
> ibw = ifreq/1.5
> as1 eqfil as1, ifreq, ibw, kgain
> xout as1
> endop
> 
> 
> instr 1
> ilowest = 100
> imaxbands = 24
> itab ftgen 0,0,32,-7,1,10,0.5,10,1,4,1
> a1 diskin2 "jarrettm.wav",1
> a2 Eq a1,ilowest,itab,imaxbands
> outs a2,a2
> endin
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 Nov 2012, at 15:57, Anders Genell wrote:
> 
>> Dear List! 
>> 
>> I am mostly using csound from an engineering perspective rather than from a musical one. I realize this is not the "intended" use, so it may be a bit much to hope for engineering tools within csound, but I always felt that particularly algorithmic composing is a exciting bridge between these disciplines and since csound lends itself so well to that area, maybe there is hope for my engineering (dark?) side. 
>> 
>> What I in this particular case was hoping to achieve is a standard 1/3 octave band filter bank - kind of like a multi band eq. Ideally both for analysis -  i.e. evaluating levels of each 1/3 octave band when running something through them - and sound modification, i.e. applying (negative) gain to each band to shape the outgoing spectrum. 
>> 
>> Could this be achieved using existing opcodes such as resony or similar?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> /Anders
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>