hi,

Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound? 
Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?

Thanks.



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Its on my list to use this OpenSL Stream library for Csound 6 on Android. We'll see how well it really works. May require changing the Csound audio driver to be callback driven.

hi,

Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound?
Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?

Thanks.



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Hi,

I use Csound on my mobile phone (LG-E971) and I have no latency problem.

Regards,

Marc

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Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound? 
Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?

Thanks.



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I'm glad to hear that. One of the problems the OpenSL Stream library is supposed to help with is synchronizing the audio input with the audio output. Do you record and play at the same time?

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Mike

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Hi,

I use Csound on my mobile phone (LG-E971) and I have no latency problem.

Regards,

Marc

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hi Marc, 

Are you using touch in csound on the android phone? So it is now playable , for example a synth sound?

On 14 Aug, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Marc Demers  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I use Csound on my mobile phone (LG-E971) and I have no latency problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Marc
> 
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> 
> hi,
> 
> Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound? 
> Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Hi Pier,

Something to note about Android, there's two issues that affect
perceived latency. One is the audio latency, the other is touch
latency. I think Android 4.3 has addressed somewhat the latter and
reduced the time for a touch to be recognized.  Audio latency though
has been quite an on-going issue.  It's gotten better, but performance
is really device-by-device.  I haven't kept up with which device has
the best latency, but you could check the archives of the Android
Audio mailing list as it's come up a number of times with people
taking measurements.

steven

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Pier  wrote:
> hi Marc,
>
> Are you using touch in csound on the android phone? So it is now playable , for example a synth sound?
>
> On 14 Aug, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Marc Demers  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use Csound on my mobile phone (LG-E971) and I have no latency problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marc
>>
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>> Envoyé : mardi 13 août 2013 23:06
>> À : csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Objet : [Csnd] state of audio latency on android for csound
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound?
>> Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Steven, 

Thanks I'll go take a look. I asked here as I saw several folks here were excited about csound on android some time back, and thought maybe they had experience with the newer devices and csound. 

Pier.



On 15 Aug, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:

> Hi Pier,
> 
> Something to note about Android, there's two issues that affect
> perceived latency. One is the audio latency, the other is touch
> latency. I think Android 4.3 has addressed somewhat the latter and
> reduced the time for a touch to be recognized.  Audio latency though
> has been quite an on-going issue.  It's gotten better, but performance
> is really device-by-device.  I haven't kept up with which device has
> the best latency, but you could check the archives of the Android
> Audio mailing list as it's come up a number of times with people
> taking measurements.
> 
> steven
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Pier  wrote:
>> hi Marc,
>> 
>> Are you using touch in csound on the android phone? So it is now playable , for example a synth sound?
>> 
>> On 14 Aug, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Marc Demers  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use Csound on my mobile phone (LG-E971) and I have no latency problem.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Marc
>>> 
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>>> Envoyé : mardi 13 août 2013 23:06
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>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anymore here has tested Android recently with csound?
>>> Is the audio latency still perceptible or have things gotten better?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
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It's worth trying it out. 

I have found latency is only an issue if you're trying to write a synth like app, where tapping something like a pad or keyboard should respond instantly.

Playing csd's in sequencer like apps, where instant feedback is not an issue, works really well, even on older Android OS'.

You may find Samsung Galaxy Nexus and LG Nexus 4 devices to be the ones mentioned a lot in terms of the best sound latency.

All the best,

Jacques

On 15 Aug 2013, at 14:05, Pier  wrote:

> Hi Steven, 
> 
> Thanks I'll go take a look. I asked here as I saw several folks here were excited about csound on android some time back, and thought maybe they had experience with the newer devices and csound. 
> 
> Pier.
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 Aug, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pier,
>> 
>> Something to note about Android, there's two issues that affect
>> perceived latency. One is the audio latency, the other is touch
>> latency. I think Android 4.3 has addressed somewhat the latter and
>> reduced the time for a touch to be recognized.  Audio latency though
>> has been quite an on-going issue.  It's gotten better, but performance
>> is really device-by-device.  I haven't kept up with which device has
>> the best latency, but you could check the archives of the Android
>> Audio mailing list as it's come up a number of times with people
>> taking measurements.
>> 
>> steven
>> 
>>