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[Csnd] OT: ear freshening

Date2013-08-15 22:23
FromDavidWorrall
Subject[Csnd] OT: ear freshening
In conducting extended listening tests involving the comparison of different codecs, it can be demonstrated that fatigue, due to the duration of the tests, affects the results. 

The same effect can be observed by all of us who spend extended periods of time in concentrated audio listening. 

I often combat this effect do some 'ear-freshening' in the form of playing slow attack pink noise for +/- 10-sec. It seems to 'clear the ears' faster than silence.

 I have not found any empirical testing of this phenomena, so I am wondering if other people do this, or something similar?

I've be interested to here if you do, or if you have some other strategy to reawaken/refresh your palling ears?

David



______________________________________ 
Prof. Dr. David Worrall 
Emerging Audio Research (EAR) 
Audio Department 
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen 
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS 
Am Wolfsmantel 33 
91058 Erlangen 
Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77 
Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99 
Email: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de 
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Date2013-08-15 22:27
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT: ear freshening
Does it help with tinnitus? It would be great if it did...
On 15 Aug 2013, at 22:23, DavidWorrall wrote:

> In conducting extended listening tests involving the comparison of different codecs, it can be demonstrated that fatigue, due to the duration of the tests, affects the results. 
> 
> The same effect can be observed by all of us who spend extended periods of time in concentrated audio listening. 
> 
> I often combat this effect do some 'ear-freshening' in the form of playing slow attack pink noise for +/- 10-sec. It seems to 'clear the ears' faster than silence.
> 
>  I have not found any empirical testing of this phenomena, so I am wondering if other people do this, or something similar?
> 
> I've be interested to here if you do, or if you have some other strategy to reawaken/refresh your palling ears?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________ 
> Prof. Dr. David Worrall 
> Emerging Audio Research (EAR) 
> Audio Department 
> International Audio Laboratories Erlangen 
> Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS 
> Am Wolfsmantel 33 
> 91058 Erlangen 
> Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77 
> Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99 
> Email: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de 
> Internet: iis.fraunhofer.de
> 
> 
> 
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Date2013-08-15 22:44
FromDavidWorrall
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT: ear freshening
I'm not sure - I don't suffer from it - but it may be worth a quick test.
Trouble is, there appears to be more than one source of tinnitus -

I've always likened it to the 'refresh' one gets when listening to the waves on a beach.

I can't believe there aren't any experiments which test 'cures' for aural fatigue, but I haven't turned up any in my googling.

D.
On 15/08/2013, at 11:27 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Does it help with tinnitus? It would be great if it did...
On 15 Aug 2013, at 22:23, DavidWorrall wrote:

In conducting extended listening tests involving the comparison of different codecs, it can be demonstrated that fatigue, due to the duration of the tests, affects the results.

The same effect can be observed by all of us who spend extended periods of time in concentrated audio listening.

I often combat this effect do some 'ear-freshening' in the form of playing slow attack pink noise for +/- 10-sec. It seems to 'clear the ears' faster than silence.

I have not found any empirical testing of this phenomena, so I am wondering if other people do this, or something similar?

I've be interested to here if you do, or if you have some other strategy to reawaken/refresh your palling ears?

David



______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77
Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
Email: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: iis.fraunhofer.de





Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie





Date2013-08-16 18:05
FromDavid Akbari
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT: ear freshening
Hello David & Victor,

I see patients in the audiology clinic with complaints like this all the time. I am presently working with several experts in the field to do some work related to what you are describing.

There is currently some work in review from a clinical perspective to determine the efficacy of such an approach. I wish I could tell you more at this time but there is a lot at stake from the perspective of hearing instrument manufacturers, or manufacturers of hearing assistive technology (including tinnitus maskers). There is, of course, also some regulatory hurdles to overcome.

There are clinical implications for tinnitus therapy, [professional audio engineering] listening fatigue, and auditory processing spectrum disorders. Stay tuned!

Cheers,
David


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM, DavidWorrall <vip@avatar.com.au> wrote:
I'm not sure - I don't suffer from it - but it may be worth a quick test.
Trouble is, there appears to be more than one source of tinnitus -

I've always likened it to the 'refresh' one gets when listening to the waves on a beach.

I can't believe there aren't any experiments which test 'cures' for aural fatigue, but I haven't turned up any in my googling.

D.

On 15/08/2013, at 11:27 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Does it help with tinnitus? It would be great if it did...
On 15 Aug 2013, at 22:23, DavidWorrall wrote:

In conducting extended listening tests involving the comparison of different codecs, it can be demonstrated that fatigue, due to the duration of the tests, affects the results.

The same effect can be observed by all of us who spend extended periods of time in concentrated audio listening.

I often combat this effect do some 'ear-freshening' in the form of playing slow attack pink noise for +/- 10-sec. It seems to 'clear the ears' faster than silence.

I have not found any empirical testing of this phenomena, so I am wondering if other people do this, or something similar?

I've be interested to here if you do, or if you have some other strategy to reawaken/refresh your palling ears?

David



______________________________________
Prof. Dr. David Worrall
Emerging Audio Research (EAR)
Audio Department
International Audio Laboratories Erlangen
Fraunhofer-Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen IIS
Am Wolfsmantel 33
91058 Erlangen
Telefon +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-62 77
Fax +49 (0) 91 31 / 7 76-20 99
Email: david.worrall@iis.fraunhofer.de
Internet: iis.fraunhofer.de





Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie