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to appear in the published proceedings?


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yes, or at least register.
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I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
paper rejected?



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> yes, or at least register.
> On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
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My piece was selected for the "listening room". I am a little disappointed!

Never sent a paper.

P

On 20/04/2011 15:44, Rory Walsh wrote:
> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
> paper rejected?
>
>
>
> On 20 April 2011 12:42, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> yes, or at least register.
>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
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>>> to appear in the published proceedings?
>>>
>>>
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I hope to see some of you there then; if I can find the funding!



On 20 April 2011 16:26, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> Yes, I have had a paper rejected, two pieces rejected, and a paper and piece
> rejected. I have also had three papers accepted and a piece accepted.
> On the most obvious level, the organizers of a conference have to keep the
> attendees happy but may have limited resources. On the most basic level, I
> think the obvious crap would have to go, I mean truly incompetent or
> unlistenable, then as many submissions as time and space permit would be
> scheduled.
> I think the ratio of submissions to resources could vary quite a bit
> depending on the excitement or lack thereof in the field, the level of
> funding in the field, the attractiveness of the host city, the competence or
> otherwise of the organizers, etc.
> But in some fields, I know, they are much more selective because the field
> itself is very competitive and, perhaps, faddish. My vague and only very
> partly informed impression is that computer music, as a field, is similar to
> other academic fields but not nearly as high-temperature as theoretical
> computer science or physics.
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
>> paper rejected?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 April 2011 12:42, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> > yes, or at least register.
>> > On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> >
>> >> Am I right in assuming that one MUST attend in order for ones papers
>> >> to appear in the published proceedings?
>> >>
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There were certainly lots of rejections this year, as they had 187  
papers, out of which about 60 got selected (1/3). The ICMC is possibly  
the most competitive
of these types of conferences.

Victor
On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:44, Rory Walsh wrote:

> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
> paper rejected?
>
>
>
> On 20 April 2011 12:42, Victor Lazzarini   
> wrote:
>> yes, or at least register.
>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> Am I right in assuming that one MUST attend in order for ones papers
>>> to appear in the published proceedings?
>>>
>>>
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you have two weeks to sort it out...
On 20 Apr 2011, at 16:34, Rory Walsh wrote:

> I hope to see some of you there then; if I can find the funding!
>
>
>
> On 20 April 2011 16:26, Michael Gogins   
> wrote:
>> Yes, I have had a paper rejected, two pieces rejected, and a paper  
>> and piece
>> rejected. I have also had three papers accepted and a piece accepted.
>> On the most obvious level, the organizers of a conference have to  
>> keep the
>> attendees happy but may have limited resources. On the most basic  
>> level, I
>> think the obvious crap would have to go, I mean truly incompetent or
>> unlistenable, then as many submissions as time and space permit  
>> would be
>> scheduled.
>> I think the ratio of submissions to resources could vary quite a bit
>> depending on the excitement or lack thereof in the field, the level  
>> of
>> funding in the field, the attractiveness of the host city, the  
>> competence or
>> otherwise of the organizers, etc.
>> But in some fields, I know, they are much more selective because  
>> the field
>> itself is very competitive and, perhaps, faddish. My vague and only  
>> very
>> partly informed impression is that computer music, as a field, is  
>> similar to
>> other academic fields but not nearly as high-temperature as  
>> theoretical
>> computer science or physics.
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Rory Walsh   
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
>>> paper rejected?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 April 2011 12:42, Victor Lazzarini  
>>>  wrote:
>>>> yes, or at least register.
>>>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am I right in assuming that one MUST attend in order for ones  
>>>>> papers
>>>>> to appear in the published proceedings?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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If only the IMF were still in town...

On 20 April 2011 16:41, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> you have two weeks to sort it out...
> On 20 Apr 2011, at 16:34, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
>> I hope to see some of you there then; if I can find the funding!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 April 2011 16:26, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I have had a paper rejected, two pieces rejected, and a paper and
>>> piece
>>> rejected. I have also had three papers accepted and a piece accepted.
>>> On the most obvious level, the organizers of a conference have to keep
>>> the
>>> attendees happy but may have limited resources. On the most basic level,
>>> I
>>> think the obvious crap would have to go, I mean truly incompetent or
>>> unlistenable, then as many submissions as time and space permit would be
>>> scheduled.
>>> I think the ratio of submissions to resources could vary quite a bit
>>> depending on the excitement or lack thereof in the field, the level of
>>> funding in the field, the attractiveness of the host city, the competence
>>> or
>>> otherwise of the organizers, etc.
>>> But in some fields, I know, they are much more selective because the
>>> field
>>> itself is very competitive and, perhaps, faddish. My vague and only very
>>> partly informed impression is that computer music, as a field, is similar
>>> to
>>> other academic fields but not nearly as high-temperature as theoretical
>>> computer science or physics.
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
>>>> paper rejected?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 April 2011 12:42, Victor Lazzarini 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, or at least register.
>>>>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 11:35, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I right in assuming that one MUST attend in order for ones papers
>>>>>> to appear in the published proceedings?
>>>>>>
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Are you saying there can be no registrations after two weeks from now? 
That would pretty much guarantee I can't go.

Richard Dobson


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>
>> I hope to see some of you there then; if I can find the funding!
>>
>>
>>


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No, what I am saying is that if you don't register before the 11/May,  
they will not keep your paper. I'm sure anyone else can register  
anytime.

Victor
On 20 Apr 2011, at 17:31, Richard Dobson wrote:

> Are you saying there can be no registrations after two weeks from  
> now? That would pretty much guarantee I can't go.
>
> Richard Dobson
>
>
> On 20/04/2011 16:41, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> you have two weeks to sort it out...
>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 16:34, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
>>> I hope to see some of you there then; if I can find the funding!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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If you are giving a paper you need to confirm your attendance by the
25th of April and register before the 11th of May. Keep in mind that
they haven't even said how much registration will be yet.

Rory.





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> Are you saying there can be no registrations after two weeks from now? That
> would pretty much guarantee I can't go.
>
> Richard Dobson
>
>
> On 20/04/2011 16:41, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>> you have two weeks to sort it out...
>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 16:34, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
> paper rejected?
>
>

Yes; many

Not this year though

==John ff



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>> I can't say I'm surprised. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had a
>> paper rejected?
>>
>>
>
> Yes; many
>
> Not this year though
>
> ==John ff
>


and for music, two accepted in 1996, and about 10 rejected since.  I had
wondered about prosucing a CD called "Rejected", each labelled with eICMC
year.  I have thought for some time there is a "style" that ICMC likes and
that is not what I write.  I thought my piece for this year's submission
was particularly good, but then I am an amateur and know nothing about
composition.

==John ff



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> No, what I am saying is that if you don't register before the 11/May,
> they will not keep your paper. I'm sure anyone else can register anytime.
>

Ah. phew!
Richard Dobson


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