[Csnd] composers
Date | 2011-04-20 18:31 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | [Csnd] composers |
Hi all, Are there any other pop composers on this list? If so, what percentage of your compositions are written entirely in Csound? (Using opcodes like in/inch/ino count.) Adam Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:24 |
From | Anthony Palomba |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
That is a hard question to answer. I tend to use csound mostly for its real time spectral processing. A lot of live instruments enhanced by various opcodes. As far as using it as a signal source, there tends to be a lot of other things I use that are easier and quicker (i.e. Reaktor, Absyth, etc.) Anthony On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Adam Puckett <adotsdothmusic@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:31 |
From | Anthony Palomba |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Oh wait, you said pop composers... I am definitely not in the pop composer camp. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Anthony Palomba <apalomba@austin.rr.com> wrote: That is a hard question to answer. I tend to use csound mostly for |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:39 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I tend to use Csound for everything. Generating audio as well as processing it. What exactly do you mean by pop? Electronica, rock, country and western?? On 20 April 2011 20:24, Anthony Palomba |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:43 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I was thinking synthpop/electronica with rock/country mixed in, like an ultra-fusion of all the popular genres. On 4/20/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:51 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Sounds interesting! You'll be employing the use of an auto-tuner? Country and Western Electronica is nothing without an auto-tuner! All jokes aside, I believe most genres of music can be handled by Csound. It just may be slower than dedicated pop software such as Fruity Loops et al.. On 20 April 2011 20:43, Adam Puckett |
Date | 2011-04-20 20:57 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I guess I could use something like an autotuner by employing pvscross on one fsig generated by my voice talking and the other by an oscillator with frequency controlled via zak, again inspired by Jacob Joaquin. I'm sure there are better ways of doing this though. On 4/20/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:10 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Or hack one of these: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/for-all-the-budding-popstars-out-there-td2799919.html#a2799925 On 20 April 2011 20:57, Adam Puckett |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:14 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
That one is nice on paper, but I tried it with an oscillator as the source input (moving the frequency around to different values) and it's actually a little slow. On 4/20/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:36 |
From | Victor Lazzarini |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
you can change the time response by adjusting the ism parameter of the UDO. It works pretty well. Victor On 20 Apr 2011, at 21:14, Adam Puckett wrote: > That one is nice on paper, but I tried it with an oscillator as the > source input (moving the frequency around to different values) and > it's actually a little slow. > > On 4/20/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:36 |
From | Dave Phillips |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Adam Puckett wrote: > I was thinking synthpop/electronica with rock/country mixed in, like > an ultra-fusion of all the popular genres. > Probably not at all what you're asking about but: http://linux-sound.org/audio/studiodave-springof23.mp3 The wind sound throughout was composed with the Csound-based Noise instrument in AVSynthesis. Best, dp Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:44 |
From | Brian Redfern |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I made some drum and bass tracks with csound. I'm looking at learning dubstep to write an entire dubstep release with csound and then if I have the budget I actually want to release it on vinyl, or at least a single. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Dave Phillips |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:47 |
From | Jacob Joaquin |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I would love to hear that! I, too, am looking into learning dubstep. Though I have no plans on composing an entire Csound dubstep release. :) Jake -- The Csound Blog - http://csoundblog.com/ Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/ On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Brian Redfern |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:50 |
From | Brian Redfern |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I'm friends with the Widdler, he uses reason for everything but I feel I can do ever sicker stuff with csound, but its a challenge getting the right heavy bass sound. On Apr 20, 2011 1:48 PM, "Jacob Joaquin" <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would love to hear that! I, too, am looking into learning dubstep. > Though I have no plans on composing an entire Csound dubstep release. > :) > > Jake > -- > The Csound Blog - http://csoundblog.com/ > Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/ > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Brian Redfern <brianwredfern@gmail.com> wrote: >> I made some drum and bass tracks with csound. I'm looking at learning >> dubstep to write an entire dubstep release with csound and then if I >> have the budget I actually want to release it on vinyl, or at least a >> single. >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@woh.rr.com> wrote: >>> Adam Puckett wrote: >>>> >>>> I was thinking synthpop/electronica with rock/country mixed in, like >>>> an ultra-fusion of all the popular genres. >>>> >>> >>> Probably not at all what you're asking about but: >>> >>> http://linux-sound.org/audio/studiodave-springof23.mp3 >>> >>> The wind sound throughout was composed with the Csound-based Noise >>> instrument in AVSynthesis. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> dp >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > |
Date | 2011-04-20 21:54 |
From | Victor Lazzarini |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Also, try changing the pitch tracking method. The default i(pitch) is probably not the best. Just tried with a vco2, ism=0 and imeth=1, glissando from 440 to 880 and I am getting a scale OK. Victor On 20 Apr 2011, at 21:14, Adam Puckett wrote: > That one is nice on paper, but I tried it with an oscillator as the > source input (moving the frequency around to different values) and > it's actually a little slow. > > On 4/20/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-20 22:09 |
From | Oeyvind Brandtsegg |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
... joining the "probably-not-what-you-asked-for", but still kinda pop compared to other things I do. http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg/ramblin Oeyvind 2011/4/20 Dave Phillips |
Date | 2011-04-20 22:12 |
From | Brian Redfern |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
This is a drum and bass track I created completely with csound: http://soundcloud.com/shams93/zusa-rmx On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg |
Date | 2011-04-21 02:55 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
The drum and bass track sounds awesome! However I think I will make simpler music than that, but it will still be sort of complex to the ear. I'm working on a song right now that will be my signature song hopefully, called UI. My pseudonym the songs will be written under is A.S.H., hence the username "adotsdothmusic," as some sites don't allow periods when you sign up for them. "UI" should be on my YouTube channel (http://youtube.com/adotsdothmusic) within a week. On 4/20/11, Brian Redfern |
Date | 2011-04-21 21:28 |
From | Mark Van Peteghem |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I'm a dubstep fan too. Even though I don't intend to make dubstep (yet), I tried to do the wobble bass in CSound, but didn't succeed very well. The descriptions I found were like 'use that VST, set that knob to 7 and that knob to 12'. What I got sounded quite like it but not that awesome. Mark Brian Redfern wrote: > I made some drum and bass tracks with csound. I'm looking at learning > dubstep to write an entire dubstep release with csound and then if I > have the budget I actually want to release it on vinyl, or at least a > single. > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" |
Date | 2011-04-21 21:35 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
If I were going to pursue dubstep (which might not be a bad idea actually) I would use the zak patch system to control the wobble bass thing you're talking about. That way I wouldn't have to use VST plug-ins. (I only use the GUIs I absolutely need - browser, Explorer, clicking on CSDs, etc.) and text for everything else. Adam On 4/21/11, Mark Van Peteghem |
Date | 2011-04-21 21:58 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
After using the new signal graph opcodes i don't think I'll ever look at the zak space ones again. Have you tried them out? I spent last weekend re-factoring old code so that all my instruments now have a set of inlets and outlets. Patching them together is a piece of cake. Rory. On 21 April 2011 21:35, Adam Puckett |
Date | 2011-04-21 22:29 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Just had a quick go at some wobbly bass. Feel free to tweak. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have to do much more to get it sounding more dubstep-esque.... |
Date | 2011-04-22 03:11 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Rory, Tried running your code and got: error: numeric syntax '1 ', line 9: gicomp ftgen 0, 0, 1024, 10, 1, 1, 1 error: numeric syntax '1000 ', line 12: idepth = 1000 error: numeric syntax '2 ', line 13: kenv linen 1, p3/4, p3, p3/2 error: input arg 'gicomp ' used before defined, line 14: kfco oscil idepth, 1, gicomp error: numeric syntax '50 ', line 15: a1 vco2 kenv, 50 error: numeric syntax '0.0 ', line 16: aflt lpf18 a1, kfco+idepth, 0.1, 0.0 error: numeric syntax '10 ', line 17: apan jspline kenv, 1, 10 7 syntax errors in orchestra. compilation invalid Adam On 4/21/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-22 04:11 |
From | "Colman O'Reilly" |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
It ran in Qute just fine - pretty cool little instrument. Colman
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Adam Puckett <adotsdothmusic@gmail.com> wrote: Rory, -- Colman O'Reilly | colmanoreilly@gmail.com | www.colmanoreilly.com
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Date | 2011-04-22 10:12 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Attachments | wobbleBass.csd |
No problems running it here from WinXound, the terminal and QTCsound. Perhaps some thing got botched in the copy and paste process. I've attached the csd this time. On 22 April 2011 04:11, Colman O'Reilly |
Date | 2011-04-22 12:35 |
From | peiman khosravi |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Works here too. That's one fat bass! I'm saving this csd for a rainy day when I need to make money by making music :-) P On 22/04/2011 10:12, Rory Walsh wrote: > No problems running it here from WinXound, the terminal and QTCsound. > Perhaps some thing got botched in the copy and paste process. I've > attached the csd this time. > > On 22 April 2011 04:11, Colman O'Reilly |
Date | 2011-04-22 12:41 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
That's only the tip of the phat-berg!. On 22 April 2011 12:35, peiman khosravi |
Date | 2011-04-22 15:10 |
From | Brian Redfern |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Another technique you hear a lot in dubstep is putting the bass sound through a formant filter so the bass is actually playing vowels. On Apr 22, 2011 4:42 AM, "Rory Walsh" <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
> That's only the tip of the phat-berg!. > > On 22 April 2011 12:35, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote: >> Works here too. That's one fat bass! I'm saving this csd for a rainy day >> when I need to make money by making music :-) >> >> P >> >> On 22/04/2011 10:12, Rory Walsh wrote: >>> >>> No problems running it here from WinXound, the terminal and QTCsound. >>> Perhaps some thing got botched in the copy and paste process. I've >>> attached the csd this time. >>> >>> On 22 April 2011 04:11, Colman O'Reilly<colmanoreilly@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It ran in Qute just fine - pretty cool little instrument. >>>> Colman >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Adam Puckett<adotsdothmusic@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rory, >>>>> >>>>> Tried running your code and got: >>>>> >>>>> error: numeric syntax '1 ', line 9: >>>>> gicomp ftgen 0, 0, 1024, 10, 1, 1, 1 >>>>> error: numeric syntax '1000 ', line 12: >>>>> idepth = 1000 >>>>> error: numeric syntax '2 ', line 13: >>>>> kenv linen 1, p3/4, p3, p3/2 >>>>> error: input arg 'gicomp ' used before defined, line 14: >>>>> kfco oscil idepth, 1, gicomp >>>>> error: numeric syntax '50 ', line 15: >>>>> a1 vco2 kenv, 50 >>>>> error: numeric syntax '0.0 ', line 16: >>>>> aflt lpf18 a1, kfco+idepth, 0.1, 0.0 >>>>> error: numeric syntax '10 ', line 17: >>>>> apan jspline kenv, 1, 10 >>>>> 7 syntax errors in orchestra. compilation invalid >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> On 4/21/11, Rory Walsh<rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Just had a quick go at some wobbly bass. Feel free to tweak. I'm >>>>>> pretty sure you wouldn't have to do much more to get it sounding more >>>>>> dubstep-esque.... >>>>>> >>>>>> <CsoundSynthesizer> >>>>>> <CsOptions> >>>>>> -odac -g >>>>>> </CsOptions> >>>>>> <CsInstruments> >>>>>> 0dbfs = 1 >>>>>> nchnls = 2 >>>>>> >>>>>> gicomp ftgen 0, 0, 1024, 10, 1, 1, 1 ;composite waveform >>>>>> >>>>>> instr WOBBLE_BASS >>>>>> idepth = 1000 ; filter range in Hz. >>>>>> kenv linen 1, p3/4, p3, p3/2 ; master envolope >>>>>> kfco oscil idepth, 1, gicomp ; use a composite wavefor to >>>>>> control cut-off >>>>>> freq >>>>>> a1 vco2 kenv, 50 ; VCO creating a sawtooth waveform >>>>>> aflt lpf18 a1, kfco+idepth, 0.1, 0.0 ;lowpass filter >>>>>> apan jspline kenv, 1, 10 ; add some space >>>>>> outs aflt*apan, aflt*(1-apan) >>>>>> endin >>>>>> >>>>>> </CsInstruments> >>>>>> <CsScore> >>>>>> i "WOBBLE_BASS" 0 10 >>>>>> </CsScore> >>>>>> </CsoundSynthesizer> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Colman O'Reilly | colmanoreilly@gmail.com | www.colmanoreilly.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > |
Date | 2011-04-22 15:20 |
From | peiman khosravi |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I've had some great results from this UDO http://www.csounds.com/udo/cache/vowel.udo P On 22/04/2011 15:10, Brian Redfern wrote:
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Date | 2011-04-22 15:24 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
And me with vowgen: http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=76. I hooked that one up to a joystick for one of my undergrad classes. We had create fun trying to get Csound to talk. Rory. On 22 April 2011 15:20, peiman khosravi |
Date | 2011-04-22 15:43 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
That's really strange. I had been copying and pasting examples from the FlossManuals book and they all worked. Adam On 4/22/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-22 15:53 |
From | Rory Walsh |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
It's something strange. Did you try it again? There are no typos. I've checked it again here. On 22 April 2011 15:43, Adam Puckett |
Date | 2011-04-22 15:56 |
From | Adam Puckett |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
Yes. It works. Thanks. On 4/22/11, Rory Walsh |
Date | 2011-04-22 21:41 |
From | Mark Van Peteghem |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I retried mine and I found that playing it at 50 or 60 Hz improved it a lot. Here is my instrument: ifreq = p4 iamp = p5 klfo oscil 1, 2, gi_cosine kenv linen 1, 0.5, p3, 0.5 asig1 vco2 1, ifreq, 2, 0.5 asig2 vco2 0.5, ifreq*2, 2, 0.5 asig = asig1;+asig2 kco = ifreq*6*(1+klfo/2) asig moogvcf asig, kco, 0.8 agate mpulse 1, 1/(sr/32) asig samphold asig, agate asig butterhp asig, ifreq*3 asig nreverb asig, 0.15, 0 asig = asig*kenv*iamp outs asig, asig Interestingly, if you take out the line with samphold, it sounds better if the 6 in kco = ifreq*6*(1+klfo/2) is increased to 40. It may be improved further with some EQ, I haven't tried that yet. Mark Rory Walsh wrote: > Just had a quick go at some wobbly bass. Feel free to tweak. I'm > pretty sure you wouldn't have to do much more to get it sounding more > dubstep-esque.... > > |
Date | 2011-04-22 21:45 |
From | Mark Van Peteghem |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] composers |
I've read that the robotic vowels are actually obtained by reducing the sample rate, which somehow creates this effect when the lowpass filter sweeps up and down, and that's what I also got in my instrument. But it's possible that others do it with formant filters. Mark Brian Redfern wrote: > > Another technique you hear a lot in dubstep is putting the bass sound > through a formant filter so the bass is actually playing vowels. > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" |