Hi all -

after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index

This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction about the
many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very difficult
to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and experts
in computer music or audio programming.

We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
invited to improve this for further releases by:
- either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or extend
some part of this book;
- or send us good examples;
- or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
want to see in the next release.

We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
distributed in
any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.

Enjoy!

Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz


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Nice work guys. I look forward to taking a look!

On 5 April 2011 01:47, joachim heintz  wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>
> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction about the
> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very difficult
> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and experts
> in computer music or audio programming.
>
> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
> invited to improve this for further releases by:
> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or extend
> some part of this book;
> - or send us good examples;
> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
> want to see in the next release.
>
> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
> distributed in
> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>
>
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Hi Joachim,

This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would like to try.

I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in the 
score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use f-statements 
in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g. EXAMPLE 04F02.csd 
in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF" uses 75 of them. 
Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and also wants to use 
another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1 to 10; that would 
require a lot of editing. This is why I think it would be better to 
teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so CSound automatically 
gives it a unique number). f-statements in the score can be useful, but 
IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.

Mark

PS: I noticed that 
 has some 
rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the source 
code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.

joachim heintz wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>
> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction about the
> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very difficult
> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and experts
> in computer music or audio programming.
>
> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
> invited to improve this for further releases by:
> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or extend
> some part of this book;
> - or send us good examples;
> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
> want to see in the next release.
>
> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
> distributed in
> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>
>
>   

What a great resource! In about 3 clicks I've already learned some new  
things! many, many thanks!

-Lou Cohen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Mark Van Peteghem wrote:

> Hi Joachim,
>
> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would like  
> to try.
>
> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in  
> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use f- 
> statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g.  
> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF"  
> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and  
> also wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered  
> 1 to 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it  
> would be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0  
> so CSound automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in  
> the score can be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the  
> score.
>
> Mark
>
> PS: I noticed that  > has some rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked  
> at the source code, it seems to be in elements with names math and  
> mstyle.
>
> joachim heintz wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>
>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction  
>> about the
>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very  
>> difficult
>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and  
>> experts
>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>
>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or  
>> extend
>> some part of this book;
>> - or send us good examples;
>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
>> want to see in the next release.
>>
>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for  
>> the
>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it,  
>> and
>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
>> distributed in
>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? 
>> group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body  
>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Mark
> _________________________________________
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> When you get hardware, you make software.
>
>
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Hi Mark,

good point, thanks for your post.
That inconsistence may come from the collaboration aspect of the floss 
project and the variety of different authors. But you are absolutely 
right, that there should be a straight line for certain things.

But a good point with the Floss-manuals is, as they can be updated 
easily, and we are planning a next update.. to improve the manual and 
keep it up-to-date.

Best,
Alex



Am 05.04.11 22:06, schrieb Mark Van Peteghem:
> Hi Joachim,
>
> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would like to 
> try.
>
> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in 
> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use 
> f-statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g. 
> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF" 
> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and also 
> wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1 to 
> 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it would 
> be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so CSound 
> automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in the score can 
> be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.
>
> Mark
>
> PS: I noticed that 
>  has some 
> rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the source 
> code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.
>
> joachim heintz wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>
>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction about the
>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very difficult
>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and experts
>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>
>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or extend
>> some part of this book;
>> - or send us good examples;
>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
>> want to see in the next release.
>>
>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
>> distributed in
>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>>
>


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in addition to alex' reply: i have informed the floss maintainers about
the firefox 4 issue.
	joachim

Am 06.04.2011 11:24, schrieb Alex Hofmann:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> good point, thanks for your post.
> That inconsistence may come from the collaboration aspect of the floss
> project and the variety of different authors. But you are absolutely
> right, that there should be a straight line for certain things.
> 
> But a good point with the Floss-manuals is, as they can be updated
> easily, and we are planning a next update.. to improve the manual and
> keep it up-to-date.
> 
> Best,
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> Am 05.04.11 22:06, schrieb Mark Van Peteghem:
>> Hi Joachim,
>>
>> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would like to
>> try.
>>
>> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in
>> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use
>> f-statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g.
>> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF"
>> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and also
>> wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1 to
>> 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it would
>> be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so CSound
>> automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in the score can
>> be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> PS: I noticed that
>>  has some
>> rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the source
>> code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.
>>
>> joachim heintz wrote:
>>> Hi all -
>>>
>>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
>>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>>
>>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
>>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction about the
>>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
>>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very difficult
>>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and experts
>>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>>
>>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
>>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or extend
>>> some part of this book;
>>> - or send us good examples;
>>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
>>> want to see in the next release.
>>>
>>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
>>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
>>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
>>> distributed in
>>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
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Thanks for this manual! 
I think i will print it out (i would like an eReader for my birthday!!!).

Also, i made some links to the "old" Floss manual in the present beta
manual. I will have to change them to let them point to this new and more
stable manual...

Menno




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yes, thanks for changing the old (dead) links. i will do the same for
the floss manual example collection in qutecsound.

	joachim

Am 06.04.2011 20:26, schrieb menno:
> Thanks for this manual! 
> I think i will print it out (i would like an eReader for my birthday!!!).
> 
> Also, i made some links to the "old" Floss manual in the present beta
> manual. I will have to change them to let them point to this new and more
> stable manual...
> 
> Menno
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Joachim,

Would you please elaborate about a "firefox" issue? I seem to have  
missed any previous discussion about this. I was using Firefox around  
the time that I first accessed the FLOSS manual, and now Firefox  
crashes repeatedly. Is there a connection? and a remedy?

Thanks!
Lou Cohen
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:06 PM, joachim heintz wrote:

> in addition to alex' reply: i have informed the floss maintainers  
> about
> the firefox 4 issue.
> 	joachim
>
> Am 06.04.2011 11:24, schrieb Alex Hofmann:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> good point, thanks for your post.
>> That inconsistence may come from the collaboration aspect of the  
>> floss
>> project and the variety of different authors. But you are absolutely
>> right, that there should be a straight line for certain things.
>>
>> But a good point with the Floss-manuals is, as they can be updated
>> easily, and we are planning a next update.. to improve the manual and
>> keep it up-to-date.
>>
>> Best,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 05.04.11 22:06, schrieb Mark Van Peteghem:
>>> Hi Joachim,
>>>
>>> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would  
>>> like to
>>> try.
>>>
>>> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in
>>> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use
>>> f-statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g.
>>> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF"
>>> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and  
>>> also
>>> wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1 to
>>> 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it  
>>> would
>>> be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so  
>>> CSound
>>> automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in the score  
>>> can
>>> be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> PS: I noticed that
>>>  has some
>>> rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the  
>>> source
>>> code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.
>>>
>>> joachim heintz wrote:
>>>> Hi all -
>>>>
>>>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final  
>>>> book
>>>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>>>
>>>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all  
>>>> who
>>>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction  
>>>> about the
>>>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a  
>>>> contribution to
>>>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very  
>>>> difficult
>>>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and  
>>>> experts
>>>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>>>
>>>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
>>>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>>>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or  
>>>> extend
>>>> some part of this book;
>>>> - or send us good examples;
>>>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why,  
>>>> and
>>>> want to see in the next release.
>>>>
>>>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform  
>>>> for the
>>>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write  
>>>> it, and
>>>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be  
>>>> freely
>>>> distributed in
>>>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Hi Lou -

first, many thanks for your nice feedback about this first csound floss
manual release. I am glad about it.

What I meant, was about Mark's report that Firefox 4 doesn't show the
math formulas correctly. I am using Firefox 3.6.16 and have no problems,
neither on Ubuntu nor on Mac. But I have reported this to Adam Hyde, the
maintainer of the floss manuals platform.

So no worries; I can't believe there is any connection between your
Firefox crashes and this small bug not showing correctly the formulas.

All best -

	joachim




Am 07.04.2011 03:35, schrieb Louis Cohen:
> Joachim,
> 
> Would you please elaborate about a "firefox" issue? I seem to have
> missed any previous discussion about this. I was using Firefox around
> the time that I first accessed the FLOSS manual, and now Firefox crashes
> repeatedly. Is there a connection? and a remedy?
> 
> Thanks!
> Lou Cohen
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:06 PM, joachim heintz wrote:
> 
>> in addition to alex' reply: i have informed the floss maintainers about
>> the firefox 4 issue.
>>     joachim
>>
>> Am 06.04.2011 11:24, schrieb Alex Hofmann:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> good point, thanks for your post.
>>> That inconsistence may come from the collaboration aspect of the floss
>>> project and the variety of different authors. But you are absolutely
>>> right, that there should be a straight line for certain things.
>>>
>>> But a good point with the Floss-manuals is, as they can be updated
>>> easily, and we are planning a next update.. to improve the manual and
>>> keep it up-to-date.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 05.04.11 22:06, schrieb Mark Van Peteghem:
>>>> Hi Joachim,
>>>>
>>>> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would like to
>>>> try.
>>>>
>>>> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements in
>>>> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use
>>>> f-statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g.
>>>> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels: FOF"
>>>> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file, and also
>>>> wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1 to
>>>> 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it would
>>>> be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so CSound
>>>> automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in the score can
>>>> be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> PS: I noticed that
>>>>  has some
>>>> rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the source
>>>> code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.
>>>>
>>>> joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>
>>>>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final book
>>>>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to all who
>>>>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction
>>>>> about the
>>>>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a contribution to
>>>>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very
>>>>> difficult
>>>>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and
>>>>> experts
>>>>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are all
>>>>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>>>>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or
>>>>> extend
>>>>> some part of this book;
>>>>> - or send us good examples;
>>>>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and why, and
>>>>> want to see in the next release.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform for the
>>>>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write it, and
>>>>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be freely
>>>>> distributed in
>>>>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Joachim,

thanks for your answer. I'll look elsewhere for the solution to  
mysterious problem.

-Lou

On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:18 AM, joachim heintz wrote:

> Hi Lou -
>
> first, many thanks for your nice feedback about this first csound  
> floss
> manual release. I am glad about it.
>
> What I meant, was about Mark's report that Firefox 4 doesn't show the
> math formulas correctly. I am using Firefox 3.6.16 and have no  
> problems,
> neither on Ubuntu nor on Mac. But I have reported this to Adam Hyde,  
> the
> maintainer of the floss manuals platform.
>
> So no worries; I can't believe there is any connection between your
> Firefox crashes and this small bug not showing correctly the formulas.
>
> All best -
>
> 	joachim
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.04.2011 03:35, schrieb Louis Cohen:
>> Joachim,
>>
>> Would you please elaborate about a "firefox" issue? I seem to have
>> missed any previous discussion about this. I was using Firefox around
>> the time that I first accessed the FLOSS manual, and now Firefox  
>> crashes
>> repeatedly. Is there a connection? and a remedy?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Lou Cohen
>> On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:06 PM, joachim heintz wrote:
>>
>>> in addition to alex' reply: i have informed the floss maintainers  
>>> about
>>> the firefox 4 issue.
>>>    joachim
>>>
>>> Am 06.04.2011 11:24, schrieb Alex Hofmann:
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> good point, thanks for your post.
>>>> That inconsistence may come from the collaboration aspect of the  
>>>> floss
>>>> project and the variety of different authors. But you are  
>>>> absolutely
>>>> right, that there should be a straight line for certain things.
>>>>
>>>> But a good point with the Floss-manuals is, as they can be updated
>>>> easily, and we are planning a next update.. to improve the manual  
>>>> and
>>>> keep it up-to-date.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.04.11 22:06, schrieb Mark Van Peteghem:
>>>>> Hi Joachim,
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks like a very nice manual, with examples that I would  
>>>>> like to
>>>>> try.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it that you show how to use ftgen instead of f-statements  
>>>>> in
>>>>> the score, like older manuals do. But in later chapters you use
>>>>> f-statements in the score where using ftgen would be better. E.g.
>>>>> EXAMPLE 04F02.csd in the section "Granular Synthesis of Vowels:  
>>>>> FOF"
>>>>> uses 75 of them. Imagine that a user copies this in his file,  
>>>>> and also
>>>>> wants to use another instrument has uses f-statements numbered 1  
>>>>> to
>>>>> 10; that would require a lot of editing. This is why I think it  
>>>>> would
>>>>> be better to teach people to use use ftgen (with p1 set to 0 so  
>>>>> CSound
>>>>> automatically gives it a unique number). f-statements in the  
>>>>> score can
>>>>> be useful, but IMHO only when used as p-fields in the score.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I noticed that
>>>>>  has some
>>>>> rectangles with 'invalid-markup' in Firefox 4. I looked at the  
>>>>> source
>>>>> code, it seems to be in elements with names math and mstyle.
>>>>>
>>>>> joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> after one year of work, discussions, interruptions, and a final  
>>>>>> book
>>>>>> sprint march 28 - april 1 in Berlin, we are there:
>>>>>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/index
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a first release of the Csound FLOSS Manual. Thanks to  
>>>>>> all who
>>>>>> have contributed. It is meant to offer a readable introduction
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> many different aspects of Csound. We hope it can be a  
>>>>>> contribution to
>>>>>> show the power of Csound. And to show, that Csound is not very
>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>> to learn, but can be a reasonable choice for both, beginners and
>>>>>> experts
>>>>>> in computer music or audio programming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do know that this first release is just a beginning. You are  
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> invited to improve this for further releases by:
>>>>>> - either register at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ and write or
>>>>>> extend
>>>>>> some part of this book;
>>>>>> - or send us good examples;
>>>>>> - or tell us what you don't like in the current release, and  
>>>>>> why, and
>>>>>> want to see in the next release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do hope very much that this manual can be a future platform  
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> Csound community to share their knowledge. We had fun to write  
>>>>>> it, and
>>>>>> we hope you have fun to read and use it. It is GPL and can be  
>>>>>> freely
>>>>>> distributed in
>>>>>> any way. See more information at http://en.flossmanuals.net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iain McCurdy, Alex Hofmann, Joachim Heintz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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If it works well with older versions of Firefox, it might be an error in 
Firefox 4. I've found other (little) bugs that weren't there before.

Mark

joachim heintz wrote:
> in addition to alex' reply: i have informed the floss maintainers about
> the firefox 4 issue.
> 	joachim
>   



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