I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on Sugar-on-a-Stick.

I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not hearing 
audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.

My  are:
-odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048

This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08 
with alsa as default rtaudio.

SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows it 
is being used, as expected.

I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and 
pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not 
knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no 
audio.

FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers installed 
on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if this 
matters.

What am I missing? I assume it's something in .

I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional 
pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their teachers 
and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Robinson" 
To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
Cc: ; "Sugar devel" 

Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide


> Hi All,
>
> I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
> recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the csound python
> bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
> Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
> at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
> as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter 



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Peter told me that TamTam needs to be rebuilt, but I do not know if that
is related to the problem you are experiencing.

Can you play sounds through any other PulseAudio application?

On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 20:46 -0400, Art Hunkins wrote:
> I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on Sugar-on-a-Stick.
> 
> I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not hearing 
> audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
> 
> My  are:
> -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
> 
> This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08 
> with alsa as default rtaudio.
> 
> SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows it 
> is being used, as expected.
> 
> I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and 
> pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not 
> knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no 
> audio.
> 
> FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers installed 
> on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if this 
> matters.
> 
> What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
> 
> I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional 
> pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their teachers 
> and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.
> 
> Art Hunkins
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Robinson" 
> To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
> Cc: ; "Sugar devel" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
> Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> 
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
> > recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the csound python
> > bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
> > Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
> > at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
> > as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter 
> 

Won't pulseaudio give unacceptable latency for tamtam?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Peter told me that TamTam needs to be rebuilt, but I do not know if that
> is related to the problem you are experiencing.
>
> Can you play sounds through any other PulseAudio application?
>
> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 20:46 -0400, Art Hunkins wrote:
>> I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on Sugar-on-a-Stick.
>>
>> I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not hearing
>> audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
>>
>> My  are:
>> -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
>>
>> This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08
>> with alsa as default rtaudio.
>>
>> SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows it
>> is being used, as expected.
>>
>> I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and
>> pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not
>> knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no
>> audio.
>>
>> FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers installed
>> on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if this
>> matters.
>>
>> What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
>>
>> I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional
>> pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their teachers
>> and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Robinson" 
>> To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
>> Cc: ; "Sugar devel"
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
>> Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
>> > recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the csound python
>> > bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
>> > Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
>> > at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
>> > as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Peter
>>
>



-- 


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TamTam uses its own IO module, something called CLooper,
which is what needs to be rebuilt. The rest is just Python code.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:18 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide


Won't pulseaudio give unacceptable latency for tamtam?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Peter told me that TamTam needs to be rebuilt, but I do not know if that
> is related to the problem you are experiencing.
>
> Can you play sounds through any other PulseAudio application?
>
> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 20:46 -0400, Art Hunkins wrote:
>> I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on 
>> Sugar-on-a-Stick.
>>
>> I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not 
>> hearing
>> audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
>>
>> My  are:
>> -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
>>
>> This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08
>> with alsa as default rtaudio.
>>
>> SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows 
>> it
>> is being used, as expected.
>>
>> I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and
>> pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not
>> knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no
>> audio.
>>
>> FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers 
>> installed
>> on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if this
>> matters.
>>
>> What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
>>
>> I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional
>> pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their 
>> teachers
>> and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Robinson" 
>> To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
>> 
>> Cc: ; "Sugar devel"
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
>> Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
>> > recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with the csound python
>> > bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
>> > Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
>> > at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
>> > as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Peter
>>
>

Well, you can try adding -+rtaudio=pulse. If Csound was not patched, it 
would
still look for portaudio.

Was it patched to find pulseaudio by default? My only misgiving about this 
is
that pulseaudio is very high-latency.

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Hunkins" 
To: "Peter Robinson" ; "Felipe Sateler" 

Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: [Csnd] Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide


> I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on 
> Sugar-on-a-Stick.
>
> I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not hearing 
> audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
>
> My  are:
> -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
>
> This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08 
> with alsa as default rtaudio.
>
> SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows 
> it is being used, as expected.
>
> I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and 
> pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not 
> knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no 
> audio.
>
> FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers 
> installed on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if 
> this matters.
>
> What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
>
> I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional 
> pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their 
> teachers and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Robinson" 
> To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
> 
> Cc: ; "Sugar devel" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
> Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
>> recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the csound python
>> bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
>> Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
>> at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
>> as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>
>
>
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AFAIK, yes, it was patched. The thing is that apparently the SoaS
package is exactly the same one as in fedora. In fedora it might make
sense to use pulseaudio (since pulseaudio will be running anyway and
lots of soundcards/drivers do not allow multiple applications writing to
them at the same time). I agree that pulseaudio in Sugar does not make
much sense, but as long as it's the same package as in fedora, I think
it will keep being pulse.

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 08:01 +0100, victor wrote:
> Well, you can try adding -+rtaudio=pulse. If Csound was not patched, it 
> would
> still look for portaudio.
> 
> Was it patched to find pulseaudio by default? My only misgiving about this 
> is
> that pulseaudio is very high-latency.
> 
> Victor
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Hunkins" 
> To: "Peter Robinson" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:46 AM
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> 
> 
> > I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on 
> > Sugar-on-a-Stick.
> >
> > I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am still not hearing 
> > audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
> >
> > My  are:
> > -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
> >
> > This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of course Csound5.08 
> > with alsa as default rtaudio.
> >
> > SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; my log shows 
> > it is being used, as expected.
> >
> > I noted that there were also "updates" available for pulseaudio and 
> > pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas Strawberry.) Not 
> > knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as well. Still no 
> > audio.
> >
> > FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio drivers 
> > installed on it along with a specified (Windows) default. I've no idea if 
> > this matters.
> >
> > What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
> >
> > I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the additional 
> > pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and their 
> > teachers and support people, the less that needs to be done the better.
> >
> > Art Hunkins
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Peter Robinson" 
> > To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
> > 
> > Cc: ; "Sugar devel" 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
> > Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> >
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a million test
> >> recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the csound python
> >> bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-testing for
> >> Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-12. For me
> >> at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. PulseAudio is set
> >> as the default. I would like to know how it looks to everyone else.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > Send bugs reports to this list.
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> > csound" 
> 
> 
> 
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Yes. Portaudio is not available, though.

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 16:48 +0100, Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie wrote:
> But there is no problem then, we just have to install the
> csound-alsa package (possibly if the alsa module is not in
> the main package) and use -+rtaudio=alsa.
> 
> Victor
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Felipe Sateler 
> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:45 pm
> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 
> > AFAIK, yes, it was patched. The thing is that apparently the SoaS
> > package is exactly the same one as in fedora. In fedora it might make
> > sense to use pulseaudio (since pulseaudio will be running anyway and
> > lots of soundcards/drivers do not allow multiple applications 
> > writing to
> > them at the same time). I agree that pulseaudio in Sugar does 
> > not make
> > much sense, but as long as it's the same package as in fedora, I think
> > it will keep being pulse.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 08:01 +0100, victor wrote:
> > > Well, you can try adding -+rtaudio=pulse. If Csound was not 
> > patched, it 
> > > would
> > > still look for portaudio.
> > > 
> > > Was it patched to find pulseaudio by default? My only 
> > misgiving about this 
> > > is
> > > that pulseaudio is very high-latency.
> > > 
> > > Victor
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Art Hunkins" 
> > > To: "Peter Robinson" ; "Felipe 
> > Sateler" 
> > > 
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:46 AM
> > > Subject: [Csnd] Re: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I'm really excited that Csound now seems to be working on 
> > > > Sugar-on-a-Stick.
> > > >
> > > > I'm getting sound written to -odac, but unfortunately am 
> > still not hearing 
> > > > audio. I imagine my problem is my audio setup.
> > > >
> > > > My  are:
> > > > -odac -m0d --expression-opt -b128 -B2048
> > > >
> > > > This set of options work fine on the XO-1, which is of 
> > course Csound5.08 
> > > > with alsa as default rtaudio.
> > > >
> > > > SoaS default is now Pulseaudio, about which I know nothing; 
> > my log shows 
> > > > it is being used, as expected.
> > > >
> > > > I noted that there were also "updates" available for 
> > pulseaudio and 
> > > > pulseaudio-libs. (I don't believe they were part of Soas 
> > Strawberry.) Not 
> > > > knowing whether these are now needed, I installed them as 
> > well. Still no 
> > > > audio.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, I'm on my WindowsXP system, which has several audio 
> > drivers 
> > > > installed on it along with a specified (Windows) default. 
> > I've no idea if 
> > > > this matters.
> > > >
> > > > What am I missing? I assume it's something in .
> > > >
> > > > I'm hoping that for purposes of my Sugar activity, that the 
> > additional 
> > > > pulseaudio files will not need to be installed. For kids and 
> > their 
> > > > teachers and support people, the less that needs to be done 
> > the better.
> > > >
> > > > Art Hunkins
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Peter Robinson" 
> > > > To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Felipe Sateler" 
> > > > 
> > > > Cc: ; "Sugar devel" 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:12 PM
> > > > Subject: csound on Fedora 11 and rawhide
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >>
> > > >> I think (with the help of Felipe) and after around a 
> > million test
> > > >> recompiles :-) I've finally fixed the issues with  the 
> > csound python
> > > >> bindings on Fedora. The build is now in rawhide and fedora-
> > testing for
> > > >> Fedora 11 as of today. The build that your after is 5.10.1-
> > 12. For me
> > > >> at least it seems to work OK on Fedora 11 rawhide. 
> > PulseAudio is set
> > > >> as the default. I would like to know how it looks to 
> > everyone else.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Send bugs reports to this list.
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> 
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> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> 
> 
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