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[Csnd] Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example

Date2010-11-15 00:08
FromJan Jacob Hofmann
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example
Sorry, for the wrong subject line, here is that message with the  
right one...

Dear Peiman,

Michael is right in stating that spatialisation needs quite some  
effort, if you want to do it properly. Anyway: Steven mentioned our  
Paper at the LAC Conference 2009. He seems to be right in assuming,  
that this work of ours tackles a lot of subjects you want to deal  
with. I do not agree with you tjhough, that Ambisonic is  difficult  
to decode to different layouts of speakers. In fact I do regard it as  
very versatile especially in this point: As long as the set-up is  
symmetric, it takes only a minute do re-decode it to 4, 5, 6 or 8  
speakers. If the set-up is not symmetric, Ambisonics might not be the  
right method, though.
So, if you do not mind the Ambisonic approach I could send you  
the .blue file off-list, if you like, as it employes Cmask and J-mask  
for spatial granular synthesis in cartesian as in polar coordinates  
and seems to adress all you want. Just disable the doppler-effect ;-)


All the best,

Jan Jacob



sound         |         movement          |          object          
|          space
sonic architecture       |        site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de
spatial electronic composition     |    2nd order ambisonic music




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Date2010-11-15 12:44
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example
Dear Jan,

Thanks very much for your email. I am certainly open to getting my head around Ambiosonic. I would love to have a look at your code and listen to the result. My only problem is that blue 2 refuses to run on my computer but I can sort that out with Steven I am sure. Please do send me your documents :-)

Thanks again.

Peiman

On 15 November 2010 00:08, Jan Jacob Hofmann <jjh@sonicarchitecture.de> wrote:
Sorry, for the wrong subject line, here is that message with the right one...

Dear Peiman,

Michael is right in stating that spatialisation needs quite some effort, if you want to do it properly. Anyway: Steven mentioned our Paper at the LAC Conference 2009. He seems to be right in assuming, that this work of ours tackles a lot of subjects you want to deal with. I do not agree with you tjhough, that Ambisonic is  difficult to decode to different layouts of speakers. In fact I do regard it as very versatile especially in this point: As long as the set-up is symmetric, it takes only a minute do re-decode it to 4, 5, 6 or 8 speakers. If the set-up is not symmetric, Ambisonics might not be the right method, though.
So, if you do not mind the Ambisonic approach I could send you the .blue file off-list, if you like, as it employes Cmask and J-mask for spatial granular synthesis in cartesian as in polar coordinates and seems to adress all you want. Just disable the doppler-effect ;-)


All the best,

Jan Jacob



sound         |         movement          |          object         |          space
sonic architecture       |        site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de
spatial electronic composition     |    2nd order ambisonic music





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Date2010-11-15 12:50
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example
you surely mean 'ambisonioc' rather than 'ambiosonic', do you not?

On 15 Nov 2010, at 12:44, peiman khosravi wrote:

Dear Jan,

Thanks very much for your email. I am certainly open to getting my head around Ambiosonic. I would love to have a look at your code and listen to the result. My only problem is that blue 2 refuses to run on my computer but I can sort that out with Steven I am sure. Please do send me your documents :-)

Thanks again.

Peiman

On 15 November 2010 00:08, Jan Jacob Hofmann <jjh@sonicarchitecture.de> wrote:
Sorry, for the wrong subject line, here is that message with the right one...

Dear Peiman,

Michael is right in stating that spatialisation needs quite some effort, if you want to do it properly. Anyway: Steven mentioned our Paper at the LAC Conference 2009. He seems to be right in assuming, that this work of ours tackles a lot of subjects you want to deal with. I do not agree with you tjhough, that Ambisonic is  difficult to decode to different layouts of speakers. In fact I do regard it as very versatile especially in this point: As long as the set-up is symmetric, it takes only a minute do re-decode it to 4, 5, 6 or 8 speakers. If the set-up is not symmetric, Ambisonics might not be the right method, though.
So, if you do not mind the Ambisonic approach I could send you the .blue file off-list, if you like, as it employes Cmask and J-mask for spatial granular synthesis in cartesian as in polar coordinates and seems to adress all you want. Just disable the doppler-effect ;-)


All the best,

Jan Jacob



sound         |         movement          |          object         |          space
sonic architecture       |        site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de
spatial electronic composition     |    2nd order ambisonic music





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Date2010-11-15 12:52
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example
yes yes!! I keep mistyping this word every time!!! 

Well, actually I mean 'ambisonic' :-)

On 15 November 2010 12:50, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
you surely mean 'ambisonioc' rather than 'ambiosonic', do you not?

On 15 Nov 2010, at 12:44, peiman khosravi wrote:

Dear Jan,

Thanks very much for your email. I am certainly open to getting my head around Ambiosonic. I would love to have a look at your code and listen to the result. My only problem is that blue 2 refuses to run on my computer but I can sort that out with Steven I am sure. Please do send me your documents :-)

Thanks again.

Peiman

On 15 November 2010 00:08, Jan Jacob Hofmann <jjh@sonicarchitecture.de> wrote:
Sorry, for the wrong subject line, here is that message with the right one...

Dear Peiman,

Michael is right in stating that spatialisation needs quite some effort, if you want to do it properly. Anyway: Steven mentioned our Paper at the LAC Conference 2009. He seems to be right in assuming, that this work of ours tackles a lot of subjects you want to deal with. I do not agree with you tjhough, that Ambisonic is  difficult to decode to different layouts of speakers. In fact I do regard it as very versatile especially in this point: As long as the set-up is symmetric, it takes only a minute do re-decode it to 4, 5, 6 or 8 speakers. If the set-up is not symmetric, Ambisonics might not be the right method, though.
So, if you do not mind the Ambisonic approach I could send you the .blue file off-list, if you like, as it employes Cmask and J-mask for spatial granular synthesis in cartesian as in polar coordinates and seems to adress all you want. Just disable the doppler-effect ;-)


All the best,

Jan Jacob



sound         |         movement          |          object         |          space
sonic architecture       |        site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de
spatial electronic composition     |    2nd order ambisonic music





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Date2010-11-15 13:00
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 'spatialization' opcodes - example
PS another reason I am apprehensive about ambisonic is that non of the linux LADSPA ambisonic decoding plug-ins (for Ardour) work on the OS X and since I often end up importing my sounds into ardour and doing further manipulations.....

Best,
Peiman 

On 15 November 2010 12:52, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
yes yes!! I keep mistyping this word every time!!! 

Well, actually I mean 'ambisonic' :-)


On 15 November 2010 12:50, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
you surely mean 'ambisonioc' rather than 'ambiosonic', do you not?

On 15 Nov 2010, at 12:44, peiman khosravi wrote:

Dear Jan,

Thanks very much for your email. I am certainly open to getting my head around Ambiosonic. I would love to have a look at your code and listen to the result. My only problem is that blue 2 refuses to run on my computer but I can sort that out with Steven I am sure. Please do send me your documents :-)

Thanks again.

Peiman

On 15 November 2010 00:08, Jan Jacob Hofmann <jjh@sonicarchitecture.de> wrote:
Sorry, for the wrong subject line, here is that message with the right one...

Dear Peiman,

Michael is right in stating that spatialisation needs quite some effort, if you want to do it properly. Anyway: Steven mentioned our Paper at the LAC Conference 2009. He seems to be right in assuming, that this work of ours tackles a lot of subjects you want to deal with. I do not agree with you tjhough, that Ambisonic is  difficult to decode to different layouts of speakers. In fact I do regard it as very versatile especially in this point: As long as the set-up is symmetric, it takes only a minute do re-decode it to 4, 5, 6 or 8 speakers. If the set-up is not symmetric, Ambisonics might not be the right method, though.
So, if you do not mind the Ambisonic approach I could send you the .blue file off-list, if you like, as it employes Cmask and J-mask for spatial granular synthesis in cartesian as in polar coordinates and seems to adress all you want. Just disable the doppler-effect ;-)


All the best,

Jan Jacob



sound         |         movement          |          object         |          space
sonic architecture       |        site: http://www.sonicarchitecture.de
spatial electronic composition     |    2nd order ambisonic music





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