Rory,

Yes, that would suffice.

By packaging, I assume you are referring to the fact that I zipped the 
Lettuce executable along with the 7-9 .dll's.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rory Walsh" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?


> In that case it should be relatively straight forward to create a
> standalone in the same vein. I can have Cabbage look to open by
> default any csd file that shares the same name as the executable.
> Users would use the main Cabbage host to create their instruments, and
> when they are ready to distribute them they simply make a copy of the
> Cabbage exe, rename it to whatever they like and make sure that a .csd
> file of the same name is in the same working directory. Would that
> suffice? As far as I recall, you always had to do some packaging, even
> with the old Lettuce stuff?
>
> On 7 January 2013 17:04, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>> Rory,
>>
>> The standalone executable included csound.exe and the .csd. All other 
>> files,
>> including stdopcod.dll and the other .dll's, were separate.
>>
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:22 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Art, can you remind me again of how this works with Lettuce? Did
>>> any .csd file get exported too or were they embedded into the binary
>>> executable? I really can't recall!
>>>
>>> On 7 January 2013 00:25, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I'd be absolutely delighted if you could create a version of Cabbage 
>>>> that
>>>> generated standalones.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt I'd switch to Cabbage in a heartbeat.
>>>>
>>>> Would such a standalone be crossplatform? (I'd be working in Windows.)
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using 
>>>> filevalid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Art, if I would I would I could but I lost all the source,
>>>>> project files, and everything for Lettuce quite some time ago. Have
>>>>> you looked into using Cabbage at all? The syntax is pretty similar and
>>>>> it wouldn't be difficult for me to create a feature to allow you to
>>>>> create standalones in the same way as Lettuce? Failing that perhaps
>>>>> John can help by producing a once-off filevalid opcode for you.
>>>>> Apologies again, there really is little I can do without the source
>>>>> code unfortunately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. it amazes and delights me that you got so much mileage out of
>>>>> Lettuce!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 January 2013 20:15, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @ John and Rory especially:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John: yes, the lack of a floats version of Csound is the *main* 
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> why I
>>>>>> don't use a more recent version of Csound (that is, other than the 
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I need to "ship" more modules for my realtime performance pieces with
>>>>>> later
>>>>>> versions).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As mentioned before, I use Lettuce still as my preferred frontend 
>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>> probably alone in this, I realize). I'd willingly use a (later) 
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Csound if I had a *doubles* version of Lettuce. (Rory, hint . . .)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory, I assume you haven't been able to locate a doubles version for
>>>>>> me?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> think such would work with a later (5.11 on) version of Csound. (Your
>>>>>> floats
>>>>>> version of Lettuce certainly did.) If you can locate a doubles, this
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be another solution to my "problem."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John, in my Csound work, I don't use other frontends, utilities, nor
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> additional opcodes than the old stdopcod.dll package. So my needs for 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 5.19
>>>>>> floats version of Csound are *very* basic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line: I either need, 1) a floats version of Csound that 
>>>>>> includes
>>>>>> filevalid, or 2) a doubles version of Lettuce.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, for that matter, another simple way of determining if a file 
>>>>>> exists
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> other than filevalid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate the suggestion to use the *system* opcode. I'm afraid 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>> me too far afield programming. Also, I need my code to be
>>>>>> crossplatform.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> distribute my works for all platforms; additional "standalone" 
>>>>>> Lettuce
>>>>>> versions are specifically for Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A continuing thanks for all of your input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:42 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You saty "I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12 
>>>>>>> ".
>>>>>>> Is it only the floats that keeps you from a recent version of 
>>>>>>> Csound?
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> so, and you do not need many exotics I might be able to build a
>>>>>>> 5.19/float
>>>>>>> version tonight or tomorrow.  Might have troubles with some of the
>>>>>>> add-ons
>>>>>>> and frontends though
>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyoe know a simple and straightfoward way of learning whether
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> given file exists in the csound directory without using the 
>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>> opcode?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12 (when
>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>> appeared). Floats was no longer compiled for Windows from sometime
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> 5.12.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm aware that events attempting to be played using nonexistent
>>>>>>>> samples
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be deleted, and performance continue - but I'd like a solution more
>>>>>>>> "elegant" and economical than that if possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body 
>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> csound"
>>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe 
> csound"
> 

> By packaging, I assume you are referring to the fact that I zipped the
> Lettuce executable along with the 7-9 .dll's.

Exactly! In the meantime please have a go at converting one or two of
your instruments to Cabbage. if you need any help the cabbage forums
is a good place to ask!

>
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:26 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>
>
>> In that case it should be relatively straight forward to create a
>> standalone in the same vein. I can have Cabbage look to open by
>> default any csd file that shares the same name as the executable.
>> Users would use the main Cabbage host to create their instruments, and
>> when they are ready to distribute them they simply make a copy of the
>> Cabbage exe, rename it to whatever they like and make sure that a .csd
>> file of the same name is in the same working directory. Would that
>> suffice? As far as I recall, you always had to do some packaging, even
>> with the old Lettuce stuff?
>>
>> On 7 January 2013 17:04, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rory,
>>>
>>> The standalone executable included csound.exe and the .csd. All other
>>> files,
>>> including stdopcod.dll and the other .dll's, were separate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:22 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Art, can you remind me again of how this works with Lettuce? Did
>>>> any .csd file get exported too or were they embedded into the binary
>>>> executable? I really can't recall!
>>>>
>>>> On 7 January 2013 00:25, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be absolutely delighted if you could create a version of Cabbage
>>>>> that
>>>>> generated standalones.
>>>>>
>>>>> No doubt I'd switch to Cabbage in a heartbeat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would such a standalone be crossplatform? (I'd be working in Windows.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry Art, if I would I would I could but I lost all the source,
>>>>>> project files, and everything for Lettuce quite some time ago. Have
>>>>>> you looked into using Cabbage at all? The syntax is pretty similar and
>>>>>> it wouldn't be difficult for me to create a feature to allow you to
>>>>>> create standalones in the same way as Lettuce? Failing that perhaps
>>>>>> John can help by producing a once-off filevalid opcode for you.
>>>>>> Apologies again, there really is little I can do without the source
>>>>>> code unfortunately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. it amazes and delights me that you got so much mileage out of
>>>>>> Lettuce!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 January 2013 20:15, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @ John and Rory especially:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John: yes, the lack of a floats version of Csound is the *main*
>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>> why I
>>>>>>> don't use a more recent version of Csound (that is, other than the
>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> I need to "ship" more modules for my realtime performance pieces with
>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>> versions).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As mentioned before, I use Lettuce still as my preferred frontend
>>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>>> probably alone in this, I realize). I'd willingly use a (later)
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Csound if I had a *doubles* version of Lettuce. (Rory, hint . . .)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory, I assume you haven't been able to locate a doubles version for
>>>>>>> me?
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think such would work with a later (5.11 on) version of Csound. (Your
>>>>>>> floats
>>>>>>> version of Lettuce certainly did.) If you can locate a doubles, this
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be another solution to my "problem."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, in my Csound work, I don't use other frontends, utilities, nor
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> additional opcodes than the old stdopcod.dll package. So my needs for
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> 5.19
>>>>>>> floats version of Csound are *very* basic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line: I either need, 1) a floats version of Csound that
>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>> filevalid, or 2) a doubles version of Lettuce.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or, for that matter, another simple way of determining if a file
>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> other than filevalid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate the suggestion to use the *system* opcode. I'm afraid
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>> me too far afield programming. Also, I need my code to be
>>>>>>> crossplatform.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> distribute my works for all platforms; additional "standalone"
>>>>>>> Lettuce
>>>>>>> versions are specifically for Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A continuing thanks for all of your input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:42 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You saty "I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12
>>>>>>>> ".
>>>>>>>> Is it only the floats that keeps you from a recent version of
>>>>>>>> Csound?
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> so, and you do not need many exotics I might be able to build a
>>>>>>>> 5.19/float
>>>>>>>> version tonight or tomorrow.  Might have troubles with some of the
>>>>>>>> add-ons
>>>>>>>> and frontends though
>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyoe know a simple and straightfoward way of learning whether
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> given file exists in the csound directory without using the
>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>> opcode?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12 (when
>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>> appeared). Floats was no longer compiled for Windows from sometime
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> 5.12.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that events attempting to be played using nonexistent
>>>>>>>>> samples
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> be deleted, and performance continue - but I'd like a solution more
>>>>>>>>> "elegant" and economical than that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>

I've added this feature now. It will be available in the next
release(late Jan). So all you need to do is copy and rename the
Cabbage exe to whatever you want your application to be called.
Cabbage will then load by default a .csd file with the same name as
the executable. When Cabbage opens in this mode users can't open or
edit the source, or anything like that. All they can do from the main
menu is select a different audio or MIDI device. It looks very
'standalone'!

Rory.




On 7 January 2013 21:08, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> By packaging, I assume you are referring to the fact that I zipped the
>> Lettuce executable along with the 7-9 .dll's.
>
> Exactly! In the meantime please have a go at converting one or two of
> your instruments to Cabbage. if you need any help the cabbage forums
> is a good place to ask!
>
>>
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:26 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>
>>
>>> In that case it should be relatively straight forward to create a
>>> standalone in the same vein. I can have Cabbage look to open by
>>> default any csd file that shares the same name as the executable.
>>> Users would use the main Cabbage host to create their instruments, and
>>> when they are ready to distribute them they simply make a copy of the
>>> Cabbage exe, rename it to whatever they like and make sure that a .csd
>>> file of the same name is in the same working directory. Would that
>>> suffice? As far as I recall, you always had to do some packaging, even
>>> with the old Lettuce stuff?
>>>
>>> On 7 January 2013 17:04, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rory,
>>>>
>>>> The standalone executable included csound.exe and the .csd. All other
>>>> files,
>>>> including stdopcod.dll and the other .dll's, were separate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:22 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Art, can you remind me again of how this works with Lettuce? Did
>>>>> any .csd file get exported too or were they embedded into the binary
>>>>> executable? I really can't recall!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 January 2013 00:25, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be absolutely delighted if you could create a version of Cabbage
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> generated standalones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No doubt I'd switch to Cabbage in a heartbeat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would such a standalone be crossplatform? (I'd be working in Windows.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry Art, if I would I would I could but I lost all the source,
>>>>>>> project files, and everything for Lettuce quite some time ago. Have
>>>>>>> you looked into using Cabbage at all? The syntax is pretty similar and
>>>>>>> it wouldn't be difficult for me to create a feature to allow you to
>>>>>>> create standalones in the same way as Lettuce? Failing that perhaps
>>>>>>> John can help by producing a once-off filevalid opcode for you.
>>>>>>> Apologies again, there really is little I can do without the source
>>>>>>> code unfortunately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p.s. it amazes and delights me that you got so much mileage out of
>>>>>>> Lettuce!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 January 2013 20:15, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @ John and Rory especially:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John: yes, the lack of a floats version of Csound is the *main*
>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>> why I
>>>>>>>> don't use a more recent version of Csound (that is, other than the
>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> I need to "ship" more modules for my realtime performance pieces with
>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>> versions).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As mentioned before, I use Lettuce still as my preferred frontend
>>>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>>>> probably alone in this, I realize). I'd willingly use a (later)
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Csound if I had a *doubles* version of Lettuce. (Rory, hint . . .)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory, I assume you haven't been able to locate a doubles version for
>>>>>>>> me?
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think such would work with a later (5.11 on) version of Csound. (Your
>>>>>>>> floats
>>>>>>>> version of Lettuce certainly did.) If you can locate a doubles, this
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be another solution to my "problem."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John, in my Csound work, I don't use other frontends, utilities, nor
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> additional opcodes than the old stdopcod.dll package. So my needs for
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> 5.19
>>>>>>>> floats version of Csound are *very* basic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line: I either need, 1) a floats version of Csound that
>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>> filevalid, or 2) a doubles version of Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or, for that matter, another simple way of determining if a file
>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> other than filevalid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate the suggestion to use the *system* opcode. I'm afraid
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>> me too far afield programming. Also, I need my code to be
>>>>>>>> crossplatform.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> distribute my works for all platforms; additional "standalone"
>>>>>>>> Lettuce
>>>>>>>> versions are specifically for Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A continuing thanks for all of your input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:42 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You saty "I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12
>>>>>>>>> ".
>>>>>>>>> Is it only the floats that keeps you from a recent version of
>>>>>>>>> Csound?
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> so, and you do not need many exotics I might be able to build a
>>>>>>>>> 5.19/float
>>>>>>>>> version tonight or tomorrow.  Might have troubles with some of the
>>>>>>>>> add-ons
>>>>>>>>> and frontends though
>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyoe know a simple and straightfoward way of learning whether
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> given file exists in the csound directory without using the
>>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>>> opcode?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12 (when
>>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>>> appeared). Floats was no longer compiled for Windows from sometime
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> 5.12.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that events attempting to be played using nonexistent
>>>>>>>>>> samples
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be deleted, and performance continue - but I'd like a solution more
>>>>>>>>>> "elegant" and economical than that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>
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This will be great. Cabbage is awesome and keeps getting better and better.

-dB

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:

> I've added this feature now. It will be available in the next
> release(late Jan). So all you need to do is copy and rename the
> Cabbage exe to whatever you want your application to be called.
> Cabbage will then load by default a .csd file with the same name as
> the executable. When Cabbage opens in this mode users can't open or
> edit the source, or anything like that. All they can do from the main
> menu is select a different audio or MIDI device. It looks very
> 'standalone'!
> 
> Rory.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7 January 2013 21:08, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> By packaging, I assume you are referring to the fact that I zipped the
>>> Lettuce executable along with the 7-9 .dll's.
>> 
>> Exactly! In the meantime please have a go at converting one or two of
>> your instruments to Cabbage. if you need any help the cabbage forums
>> is a good place to ask!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Art Hunkins
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:26 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> In that case it should be relatively straight forward to create a
>>>> standalone in the same vein. I can have Cabbage look to open by
>>>> default any csd file that shares the same name as the executable.
>>>> Users would use the main Cabbage host to create their instruments, and
>>>> when they are ready to distribute them they simply make a copy of the
>>>> Cabbage exe, rename it to whatever they like and make sure that a .csd
>>>> file of the same name is in the same working directory. Would that
>>>> suffice? As far as I recall, you always had to do some packaging, even
>>>> with the old Lettuce stuff?
>>>> 
>>>> On 7 January 2013 17:04, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rory,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The standalone executable included csound.exe and the .csd. All other
>>>>> files,
>>>>> including stdopcod.dll and the other .dll's, were separate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:22 AM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using filevalid?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Art, can you remind me again of how this works with Lettuce? Did
>>>>>> any .csd file get exported too or were they embedded into the binary
>>>>>> executable? I really can't recall!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 January 2013 00:25, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd be absolutely delighted if you could create a version of Cabbage
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> generated standalones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No doubt I'd switch to Cabbage in a heartbeat.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would such a standalone be crossplatform? (I'd be working in Windows.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:39 PM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry Art, if I would I would I could but I lost all the source,
>>>>>>>> project files, and everything for Lettuce quite some time ago. Have
>>>>>>>> you looked into using Cabbage at all? The syntax is pretty similar and
>>>>>>>> it wouldn't be difficult for me to create a feature to allow you to
>>>>>>>> create standalones in the same way as Lettuce? Failing that perhaps
>>>>>>>> John can help by producing a once-off filevalid opcode for you.
>>>>>>>> Apologies again, there really is little I can do without the source
>>>>>>>> code unfortunately.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> p.s. it amazes and delights me that you got so much mileage out of
>>>>>>>> Lettuce!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6 January 2013 20:15, Art Hunkins  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> @ John and Rory especially:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John: yes, the lack of a floats version of Csound is the *main*
>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> why I
>>>>>>>>> don't use a more recent version of Csound (that is, other than the
>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> I need to "ship" more modules for my realtime performance pieces with
>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>> versions).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As mentioned before, I use Lettuce still as my preferred frontend
>>>>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>>>>> probably alone in this, I realize). I'd willingly use a (later)
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Csound if I had a *doubles* version of Lettuce. (Rory, hint . . .)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rory, I assume you haven't been able to locate a doubles version for
>>>>>>>>> me?
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think such would work with a later (5.11 on) version of Csound. (Your
>>>>>>>>> floats
>>>>>>>>> version of Lettuce certainly did.) If you can locate a doubles, this
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be another solution to my "problem."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John, in my Csound work, I don't use other frontends, utilities, nor
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> additional opcodes than the old stdopcod.dll package. So my needs for
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> 5.19
>>>>>>>>> floats version of Csound are *very* basic.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line: I either need, 1) a floats version of Csound that
>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>> filevalid, or 2) a doubles version of Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Or, for that matter, another simple way of determining if a file
>>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> other than filevalid.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I appreciate the suggestion to use the *system* opcode. I'm afraid
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>> me too far afield programming. Also, I need my code to be
>>>>>>>>> crossplatform.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> distribute my works for all platforms; additional "standalone"
>>>>>>>>> Lettuce
>>>>>>>>> versions are specifically for Windows.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A continuing thanks for all of your input.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:42 AM
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] How to learn if file exists without using
>>>>>>>>> filevalid?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You saty "I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12
>>>>>>>>>> ".
>>>>>>>>>> Is it only the floats that keeps you from a recent version of
>>>>>>>>>> Csound?
>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>> so, and you do not need many exotics I might be able to build a
>>>>>>>>>> 5.19/float
>>>>>>>>>> version tonight or tomorrow.  Might have troubles with some of the
>>>>>>>>>> add-ons
>>>>>>>>>> and frontends though
>>>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyoe know a simple and straightfoward way of learning whether
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> given file exists in the csound directory without using the
>>>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>>>> opcode?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to use a version of Csound (floats) prior to 5.12 (when
>>>>>>>>>>> filevalid
>>>>>>>>>>> appeared). Floats was no longer compiled for Windows from sometime
>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.12.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that events attempting to be played using nonexistent
>>>>>>>>>>> samples
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be deleted, and performance continue - but I'd like a solution more
>>>>>>>>>>> "elegant" and economical than that if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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