I would like to see a simple .py that reproduces your problem on Windows?...

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
>From: Chuckk Hubbard 
>Sent: Oct 23, 2008 5:06 AM
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: tkinter within csound
>
>I don't know, that might work, but unfortunately I'm relying heavily
>on the one thing FLTK doesn't have, which is arbitrary graphics, using
>Tkinter's 'canvas' objects.  I'd also like to distribute my app as a
>fairly simple executable, for those misguided souls who have no idea
>what Csound is.  I know, I'm too nice, I can't help it!
>
>-Chuckk
>
>On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>> I wonder if its possible to use the fltk opcodes for the GUI and then
>> use the python code in the csd for processing, maybe that would avoid
>> the issues with tkinter?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Chuckk Hubbard
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm revisiting this question for my own project now, and I'm curious
>>> about this.  I have been using Tkinter and the API in Python,
>>> assembling a complete csd when ready to audition and running Csound.
>>> It's worked well enough for me, but I get lots of static any time I
>>> move the cursor over the score, even though I start a separate thread
>>> for Csound.  A Pd expert I visited last week suggested using OSC to
>>> avoid that, which would also have the advantage that one could control
>>> Pd or any other OSC-capable software, if one prefers that to Csound.
>>> I'm working on paring down my app into an understandable example to
>>> ask for help.  Could be I'm not using the API right.
>>> My dilemma is whether to keep it as it is and disable mouse callbacks
>>> during playback, or to switch to an orchestra with no score and send
>>> it real-time events (instead of putting all notes into the csd to
>>> start), as you suggest here, or to send OSC events at an API-run
>>> orchestra, or even to start a separate Csound process instead of using
>>> the API.
>>> Could it be I'm just not including the proper audio latency
>>> optimization or scheduling priority in the API command?
>>> I'll post an example later today, if it reproduces the problem.
>>>
>>> -Chuckk
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:49 AM, victor  wrote:
>>>> With Python, you don't even need OSC, it can be much simpler,
>>>> just use RT events (and possibly channels). No need to involve
>>>> networking of any sort (unless you are using remote machines).
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Redfern" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:11 PM
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: tkinter within
>>>> csound
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah what I'm thinking of doing is to run an orchestra that is
>>>>> full-featured and then live code the score by firing off osc at it
>>>>> from the python shell.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM, victor  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course with PD, this is even easier, because the mixing is done
>>>>>> by the host program. Sounds quite interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuckk Hubbard"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:22 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: tkinter within csound
>>>>>> th
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was doing something like that with Pd and csoundapi~ once upon a
>>>>>>> time; I set it so a certain key started a new instance using the
>>>>>>> edited csd file, then faded that one in and the other out before
>>>>>>> stopping it.  Worked pretty well at the time, haven't done it lately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Chuckk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/12/08, victor  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The type of live-coding possible here is one of setting up
>>>>>>>>  a comprehensive orchestra and then controlling it with
>>>>>>>>  live-coded events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Another possibility is to run two or more instances of
>>>>>>>>  Csound alongside and live-code instruments,  compile
>>>>>>>>  and run in these different instances (stopping them if
>>>>>>>>  you want to set a new instrument running). You'd need
>>>>>>>>  Jack on Linux to do this. On Windows, this cannot be
>>>>>>>>  done with ASIO (it is single-client).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  This is because it is possible to unload instruments, but not
>>>>>>>>  possible to load them yet on a running instance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  However, if you have a good orchestra, there is no need
>>>>>>>>  to be creating instruments on the fly, as you can start them,
>>>>>>>>  interconnect, modify, etc all with RT events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Victor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Redfern"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  To: 
>>>>>>>>  Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:46 AM
>>>>>>>>  Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: tkinter within csound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Ultmately at the first step I'd like to learn to use csoundac from >
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> > python shell to do live coding.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I'm not sure whether I can do live coding with the csound api, or
>>>>>>>> > whether I need to use python to fire off midi or osc at a csd that is
>>>>>>>> > just a running csound process that takes score from midi or osc >
>>>>>>>> > input.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Chuckk Hubbard
>>>>>>>> >  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > Have you checked out Pure Data with Gem?  It was being used a lot >
>>>>>>>> > > > for
>>>>>>>> > > such things for a few years.  I believe it uses a syntax/library >
>>>>>>>> > > > >  >
>>>>>>>> > > based
>>>>>>>> > > on OpenGL, and you can create 3d objects, or 2d of course, and make
>>>>>>>> > > them interact with sound.  It's a whole new thing to learn, of > >
>>>>>>>> > > course,
>>>>>>>> > > but last I tried, Victor's csoundapi object worked great.  There's
>>>>>>>> > > > > a
>>>>>>>> > > tilda after "csoundapi", but I'm using my wife's old European Mac >
>>>>>>>> > > > and
>>>>>>>> > > I can't find the tilda...~ there it is
>>>>>>>> > > -Chuckk
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > On 10/9/08, Brian Redfern  wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > > Yeah what I'm looking at doing is putting a animated interface, >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > so
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > you
>>>>>>>> > > >  have music running and the animation is tied to the music and by
>>>>>>>> > > >  manipulating the animated objects you change the sound. Not a >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >  >
>>>>>>>> > > > > widget
>>>>>>>> > > >  type interface.
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >
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