Hi,

There was a recent discussion on the the list about this, and this is
also the subject of my journal article:

http://csounds.com/journal/issue14/index.html

Cheers,
Andres


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I once read about another trick that wasn't mentioned in the latest 
CSound journal, but I haven't tried it yet. It uses an equalizer to 
boost the 1 to 3 kHz range and reduce the 3 to 5 kHz range on one 
channel, and the opposite on the other channel, all by a few dB. The 
numbers I mentioned can of course be changed as you like.

Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
> I forget whether I had asked this before, but I was wondering what 
> tricks anyone had for within Csound to enhance stereo width of a final 
> mix.
>
> Tricks I already know include:
>
> 1) slight delay between left and right
> 2) mixing in mono first to get the right balance
> 3) for fat synths, detuning oscillators and panning them hard left and 
> right
> 4) some folks mention compression/expansion as a trick---anyone have 
> any thoughts on this?
> 5) matrix spatializers or comb filters that separate freq bands 
> between channels (I guess this is related in theory to item 1)
>
> In addition, how should reverberant spaces be treated---if one does 
> certain thing X to the dry signal should the same thing be done to wet 
> signal Y?
>
> I'd love anyone's thoughts on how they produce drool-inspiring 
> uncannily wide mixes....does anyone find that it's easier to take 
> individual tracks from Csound and do it in a DAW instead?
>
> -- 
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.untwelve.org
>

Hi,

Just to nit-pick... That was mentioned when I say "any inverted filtering" =)
But it's interesting to hear of that particular one.

Cheers,
Andres

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mark Van Peteghem
 wrote:
> I once read about another trick that wasn't mentioned in the latest CSound
> journal, but I haven't tried it yet. It uses an equalizer to boost the 1 to
> 3 kHz range and reduce the 3 to 5 kHz range on one channel, and the opposite
> on the other channel, all by a few dB. The numbers I mentioned can of course
> be changed as you like.
>
> Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I forget whether I had asked this before, but I was wondering what tricks
>> anyone had for within Csound to enhance stereo width of a final mix.
>>
>> Tricks I already know include:
>>
>> 1) slight delay between left and right
>> 2) mixing in mono first to get the right balance
>> 3) for fat synths, detuning oscillators and panning them hard left and
>> right
>> 4) some folks mention compression/expansion as a trick---anyone have any
>> thoughts on this?
>> 5) matrix spatializers or comb filters that separate freq bands between
>> channels (I guess this is related in theory to item 1)
>>
>> In addition, how should reverberant spaces be treated---if one does
>> certain thing X to the dry signal should the same thing be done to wet
>> signal Y?
>>
>> I'd love anyone's thoughts on how they produce drool-inspiring uncannily
>> wide mixes....does anyone find that it's easier to take individual tracks
>> from Csound and do it in a DAW instead?
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Krister Johnson
>> http://www.akjmusic.com
>> http://www.untwelve.org
>>
>
> --
>  Mark
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I see, I overlooked that little paragraph.

I read this in an article about mastering (I can't find it back). But I 
guess its author just has a personal preference for this one, other 
articles about mastering don't even mention stereo width enhancement.

Mark

Andres Cabrera wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just to nit-pick... That was mentioned when I say "any inverted filtering" =)
> But it's interesting to hear of that particular one.
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mark Van Peteghem
>  wrote:
>   
>> I once read about another trick that wasn't mentioned in the latest CSound
>> journal, but I haven't tried it yet. It uses an equalizer to boost the 1 to
>> 3 kHz range and reduce the 3 to 5 kHz range on one channel, and the opposite
>> on the other channel, all by a few dB. The numbers I mentioned can of course
>> be changed as you like.
>>
>> Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
>>     
>>> I forget whether I had asked this before, but I was wondering what tricks
>>> anyone had for within Csound to enhance stereo width of a final mix.
>>>
>>> Tricks I already know include:
>>>
>>> 1) slight delay between left and right
>>> 2) mixing in mono first to get the right balance
>>> 3) for fat synths, detuning oscillators and panning them hard left and
>>> right
>>> 4) some folks mention compression/expansion as a trick---anyone have any
>>> thoughts on this?
>>> 5) matrix spatializers or comb filters that separate freq bands between
>>> channels (I guess this is related in theory to item 1)
>>>
>>> In addition, how should reverberant spaces be treated---if one does
>>> certain thing X to the dry signal should the same thing be done to wet
>>> signal Y?
>>>
>>> I'd love anyone's thoughts on how they produce drool-inspiring uncannily
>>> wide mixes....does anyone find that it's easier to take individual tracks
>>> from Csound and do it in a DAW instead?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aaron Krister Johnson
>>> http://www.akjmusic.com
>>> http://www.untwelve.org
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>>  Mark
>>  _________________________________________
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>>  When you get hardware, you make software.
>>
>>
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