Hi David,

In my studio I am still using a computer that runs Windows XP and Csound 
6 runs on it quite nicely. It is so much faster than previous versions.

For hardware I am using a server. It is a SuperMicro motherboard with 
two dual core Xeon processors and 2 GB of RAM. Works really well for the 
task. That is why I have not upgraded... it just keeps on working. I 
primarily use Windows because I have many tools for editing that I am 
accustomed to and have paid for. I have been using them for so long that 
they are basically transparent to my processes.

For my job as a systems administrator I have a Dell 1900 server setup as 
my workstation, running Windows Server 2008 R2, and find it to be the 
best Windows box I have ever run. Very stable and fast. Overkill for a 
workstation perhaps but it is awesome.

I do run a MAC laptop and find it to be very stable and fast as well. 
Csound 6 also runs on it very well.

Probably not much help but those are thoughts that came to mind when 
reading your email.

Good luck.

Michael



On 2/6/14 7:31 AM, David Mooney wrote:
> Thought I'd throw this out to a knowledgeable bunch of people...
>
> My music computers are not connected to the Internet and are too old 
> (Windows 2000 and XP) for Csound 6.x.  However, given the 
> omni-connectedness of newer Windows operating systems, I'd appreciate 
> any thoughts on how to set up a new standalone Windows computer.
>
> --David Mooney
>
> -- 
> Opaque Melodies
> http://opaquemelodies.com

Hi Mike,

can you point out some guidelines to build a quiet desktop?

thanks!

tarmo

On Thursday 06 February 2014 07:57:06 Michael Gogins wrote:

If a desktop, similar specs with at least double the storage, but build it yourself and do it so it will run quietly. Again, any current Core i7 desktop will run music stuff just fine.

I wouldn't be a good person for such guidelines because I have never built a PC. I just know that building a quieter one is quite possible. 

I would google for "build pc for music." Also look at the detailed specifications for computers sold by companies that build computers specifically built for music production, there are a number of these companies, in fact if you have the money buying one of these might be a good choice.

Regards,

Mike

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On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

can you point out some guidelines to build a quiet desktop?

 

thanks!

tarmo

 

On Thursday 06 February 2014 07:57:06 Michael Gogins wrote:

If a desktop, similar specs with at least double the storage, but build it yourself and do it so it will run quietly. Again, any current Core i7 desktop will run music stuff just fine.

Interesting!

You may consider that Csound runs on the Raspberry Pi, which is quite
noiseless.

Measured with a Type 1 sound level meter, measured sound pressure
level at 1.0, 0.5, and 0.25 metres from the Raspberry Pi in operation
is indistinguishable from ambient background noise within a 0.3 dB SPL
tolerance using both dB(C) and dB(A) weighting factors.

Of course this type of machine is only useful if you have plenty of
time to wait for offline rendering ... More time to compose in the
traditional style of pen and paper while preparing for your next
render, I suppose.

Cheers,
David

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM,   wrote:
> Paper was 2009 in Parma
> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: The Quest for Noiseless Computers
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2009/cdm/Friday/14_LopezLezcano/index.html
>
> That page has links to text (pdf) and a video of the presentation
>
> Quoting jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk:
>
>> I built a quiet quadcore amd machine some time back.  The main features
>> are a quiet power supply (essential) and no fans in the case. For more quiet
>> one needs to take care of disks as well.
>>
>> There is a paper in Linux Audio Conference (Cologne I think?) about
>> building really quiet machines at CCRMA using external water cooling.  I
>> will look it up if someone does not get there before me
>>
>> ==John ff
>
>
>
>
>
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It was mentioned before on the list that it was problematic, but as
far as I can tell there are no problems with it.

On 8 February 2014 14:26, David Mooney  wrote:
> Thanks--Some good thoughts and leads here. Yeah, Apple vs Mac. I get it and
> have thought about it. As for noise, I built a sound proof box some years
> back for equipment that makes noise so that isn't an issue. Don't know why I
> got the impression that 6.x wouldn't run on XP...will give it a try. Thanks
> again. Much to think about.
>
> David Mooney
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:31 AM, David Mooney  wrote:
>>
>> Thought I'd throw this out to a knowledgeable bunch of people...
>>
>> My music computers are not connected to the Internet and are too old
>> (Windows 2000 and XP) for Csound 6.x.  However, given the omni-connectedness
>> of newer Windows operating systems, I'd appreciate any thoughts on how to
>> set up a new standalone Windows computer.
>>
>> --David Mooney
>>
>> --
>> Opaque Melodies
>> http://opaquemelodies.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Opaque Melodies
> http://opaquemelodies.com