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[Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears

Date2019-09-12 15:38
FromJason Hallen
Subject[Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears
Hi everyone,

I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?

Thanks!
Jason
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Date2019-09-12 15:45
FromJustin Rosander
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears

Aside from the low-tech approach and use the volume knob to turn things down when you are testing, which I always do, familiarize yourself with 0dbfs.

 

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From: Jason Hallen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:38 AM
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
Subject: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?

 

Thanks!
Jason

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Date2019-09-12 15:59
FromForrest Curo
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears
If your speakers and your earphones don't match in sensitivity, keep the system's volume setting low. On linux, use something like "pactl -- set-sink-volume 80%;  [use speakers] ... ; pactl -- set-sink-volume 20% [return to low setting]" 

When experimenting with anything prone to positive feedback (This has come up before!) -- There are opcodes that will do this at a-rate..
Ah!:

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:45 AM Justin Rosander <justinrosander@gmail.com> wrote:

Aside from the low-tech approach and use the volume knob to turn things down when you are testing, which I always do, familiarize yourself with 0dbfs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jason Hallen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:38 AM
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
Subject: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?

 

Thanks!
Jason

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Date2019-09-13 08:21
Frombrian@AMSYNTH.COM
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears

Maybe run it through a limiter/compressor..?

 

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 09:38:37 -0500, Jason Hallen wrote:

Hi everyone,
I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?
Thanks!
Jason
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Date2019-09-13 08:33
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears
Also try to take advantage of the fact that Csound can render offline to file.
This is a very useful facility for testing things that you really do not know how they will behave.
When rendering to file, you can inspect the max amplitudes in piece and quiet, and also open the sound file to see if it looks sane graphically. 
In some instruments it will take some extra effort to set it up so that you can run it offline. For example if it is intended to process live audio, and even more difficult if it should handle live feedback. Still, this is *worth the effort*. Always.


fre. 13. sep. 2019 kl. 09:21 skrev <brian@amsynth.com>:

Maybe run it through a limiter/compressor..?

 

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 09:38:37 -0500, Jason Hallen wrote:

Hi everyone,
I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?
Thanks!
Jason
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Date2019-09-14 23:15
FromJason Hallen
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Methods for protecting speakers/ears
Thanks to you all for your suggestions!  It sounds like I have several options.  I appreciate your help.

Jason

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:33 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
Also try to take advantage of the fact that Csound can render offline to file.
This is a very useful facility for testing things that you really do not know how they will behave.
When rendering to file, you can inspect the max amplitudes in piece and quiet, and also open the sound file to see if it looks sane graphically. 
In some instruments it will take some extra effort to set it up so that you can run it offline. For example if it is intended to process live audio, and even more difficult if it should handle live feedback. Still, this is *worth the effort*. Always.


fre. 13. sep. 2019 kl. 09:21 skrev <brian@amsynth.com>:

Maybe run it through a limiter/compressor..?

 

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 09:38:37 -0500, Jason Hallen wrote:

Hi everyone,
I've had a few painful experiences with Csound output getting dangerously loud.  This comes with the territory of experimenting with Csound and making mistakes, so I know it's going to happen again.  Are there any good methods that you use to limit the peak amplitude coming out of Csound?
Thanks!
Jason
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