[Csnd] Live.csound as desktop PWA

[Csnd] Live.csound as desktop PWA

Date	2025-02-15 17:02
From	Jean Basile Sosa
Subject	[Csnd] Live.csound as desktop PWA
	Hello, Could you tell me how to install live.csound as a standalone desktop application? Are there any pre-requisites or things to know in particular? I'm currently working on an old osx (10.13), hoping this won't be a problem... Thanks for your help, Friendly regards Jean-Basile Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-02-16 23:09
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Live.csound as desktop PWA
	Hi Jean-Basile, If you're using Chrome or Brave, there is a "Save or Share" menu option from the menu in the upper right (next to the profile picture). From there there is a menu option "Install Page as App..." that should do the job. Cheers! Steven On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 12:02 PM Jean Basile Sosa <sosa.jeanbasile@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Could you tell me how to install live.csound as a standalone desktop application? Are there any pre-requisites or things to know in particular? I'm currently working on an old osx (10.13), hoping this won't be a problem... Thanks for your help, Friendly regards Jean-Basile Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 10:32
From	Risto Kuusisto
Subject	[Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Hello all ! I started to google what is available for separation of an independently running Csound and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a common situation with e.g. Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use something like this with LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. a Android-phone or -tablet. I found this one related to CsoundQt: https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development environment ??) Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about the UI-side? Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? --Risto Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 11:05
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Hi Risto! Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, it has turned very useful for me. Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and use it in CsoundRemote. What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, I suggest to look into it. Best! tarmo Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 kell 12:32: Hello all ! I started to google what is available for separation of an independently running Csound and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a common situation with e.g. Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use something like this with LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. a Android-phone or -tablet. I found this one related to CsoundQt: https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development environment ??) Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about the UI-side? Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? --Risto Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 11:25
From	joachim heintz
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto ( >) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 11:37
From	Dave Seidel
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 11:40
From	Dave Seidel
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 11:58
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Hi! There is more of it about osc control in Csound 7, I cannot find the page though... Tarmo L, 22. märts 2025 13:25 joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> kirjutas: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 12:03
From	Risto Kuusisto
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Thanx for the comments ! Tarmo: When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ? Dave: If I understand correctly the browser-application communicates with O-S-C server that then sends messages to Csound ? There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound. https://csound.com/docs/manual/OSC.html Should those be used in a .csd-file to connect to the O-S-C server ? --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 13.40 Dave Seidel (dave.seidel@gmail.com) kirjoitti: I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 12:35
From	Risto Kuusisto
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Sorry Tarmo, that question about communication was stupid. It has already been mentioned in the README, that: "Csound must be started with --port option to listen to incoming UDP messages." And this relates directly to the Csound manual page about udpserver. --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 14.03 Risto Kuusisto (rjzkuusisto@gmail.com) kirjoitti: Thanx for the comments ! Tarmo: When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ? Dave: If I understand correctly the browser-application communicates with O-S-C server that then sends messages to Csound ? There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound. https://csound.com/docs/manual/OSC.html Should those be used in a .csd-file to connect to the O-S-C server ? --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 13.40 Dave Seidel (dave.seidel@gmail.com) kirjoitti: I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 12:44
From	Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE>
Subject	Re: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	It’s in the Csound 7 manual. Not sure if it has been ported to the new MD version from docbook. ======================== Prof. Victor Lazzarini Maynooth University Ireland > On 22 Mar 2025, at 11:58, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > > Warning > This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. > Hi! > > There is more of it about osc control in Csound 7, I cannot find the page though... > > Tarmo > > L, 22. märts 2025 13:25 joachim heintz kirjutas: > hi tarmo - > > do you mean this site? > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html > > this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. > do you mean anything else? > > ciao - > joachim > > > On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > > Hi Risto! > > > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > > it has turned very useful for me. > > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > > use it in CsoundRemote. > > > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > > I suggest to look into it. > > > > Best! > > tarmo > > > > > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto ( > >) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > > kell 12:32: > > > > Hello all ! > > > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > > independently running Csound > > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > > common situation with e.g. > > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > > something like this with > > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > > > > > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > > environment ??) > > > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > > the UI-side? > > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > > > --Risto > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > > Discussions of bugs and > > features can be posted here > > > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > > wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs > > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 12:57
From	Dave Seidel
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Yes, Risto, that's correct. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025, 8:03 AM Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote: Thanx for the comments ! Tarmo: When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ? Dave: If I understand correctly the browser-application communicates with O-S-C server that then sends messages to Csound ? There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound. https://csound.com/docs/manual/OSC.html Should those be used in a .csd-file to connect to the O-S-C server ? --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 13.40 Dave Seidel (dave.seidel@gmail.com) kirjoitti: I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-22 22:23
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Hi Risto! To answer your quetion: "When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? " If you have Qt development kit installed, you can view your qml files with 'qmlscene <your.qml>' to view and test it BUT you don't need it and can work with your qml code also on the web. This seems to be a great place and sandbox: https://app.canonic.com/#https://playground.canonic.com/ I got curious and wanted to try out ChatGpt. This prompt gave a very nice looking UI: --- Please give me QML code for a UI with: - background with gradient from dark-green to black - label "TRYOUT", font size 20 - a row with -- label "Volume" -- slider in range 0..1, when slider is moved, execute csound.setControlChannel("volume", value); - another row under it with -- button with text "Play", when clicked, execute csound.readScore("i 1 0 3"); -- button with text "Play" Do not use ApplicationWindow, the main element is Rectangle, give dimensions 400x600, but fill parent, if present. --- Try it out! I did not test on CsoundRemote, but it looks believable "I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ?" -- yes, channels mostly. you can use also chnexport in Csound to bind a global variable with a channel, the the host (CsoundRemote) can acess - very convenient. "There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound." -- Yes, but the beauty of the OSC support of Csound 7 is that when the UDP server is listening for incoming messages (including OSC), you don't need to handle it in your Csound code. It is enough if you send a message something like /csound/controlChannel sf "volume" 0.6 (this is fictional, I don't remember the corect paths) - and it will be put to your channel. Sending events or compiling score, requesting values from channels works the same way. As much I know, Victor is the author of this part and can comment more. Once again - I find it a brilliant improvement. Best! tarmo Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 kell 14:03: Thanx for the comments ! Tarmo: When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ? Dave: If I understand correctly the browser-application communicates with O-S-C server that then sends messages to Csound ? There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound. https://csound.com/docs/manual/OSC.html Should those be used in a .csd-file to connect to the O-S-C server ? --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 13.40 Dave Seidel (dave.seidel@gmail.com) kirjoitti: I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-23 00:14
From	Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE>
Subject	Re: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	It took me a while to realise that not all responses were by ChatGPT, I was a bit alarmed at first that it should know so much about the new OSC support in the udp server. ;) Yeh, if you send a channel OSC msg to the udp server, it goes directly into a channel. There are addresses for compilation and events too, and core opcodes to pick up arbitrary messages. All this does not depend on the liblo-based OSC opcodes and can also be used alongside them. It's documented in the new manual, but that is still being converted to the new doc format. Prof. Victor Lazzarini Maynooth University Ireland On 22 Mar 2025, at 22:24, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote: Warning This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Risto! To answer your quetion: "When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? " If you have Qt development kit installed, you can view your qml files with 'qmlscene <your.qml>' to view and test it BUT you don't need it and can work with your qml code also on the web. This seems to be a great place and sandbox: https://app.canonic.com/#https://playground.canonic.com/ I got curious and wanted to try out ChatGpt. This prompt gave a very nice looking UI: --- Please give me QML code for a UI with: - background with gradient from dark-green to black - label "TRYOUT", font size 20 - a row with -- label "Volume" -- slider in range 0..1, when slider is moved, execute csound.setControlChannel("volume", value); - another row under it with -- button with text "Play", when clicked, execute csound.readScore("i 1 0 3"); -- button with text "Play" Do not use ApplicationWindow, the main element is Rectangle, give dimensions 400x600, but fill parent, if present. --- Try it out! I did not test on CsoundRemote, but it looks believable "I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ?" -- yes, channels mostly. you can use also chnexport in Csound to bind a global variable with a channel, the the host (CsoundRemote) can acess - very convenient. "There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound." -- Yes, but the beauty of the OSC support of Csound 7 is that when the UDP server is listening for incoming messages (including OSC), you don't need to handle it in your Csound code. It is enough if you send a message something like /csound/controlChannel sf "volume" 0.6 (this is fictional, I don't remember the corect paths) - and it will be put to your channel. Sending events or compiling score, requesting values from channels works the same way. As much I know, Victor is the author of this part and can comment more. Once again - I find it a brilliant improvement. Best! tarmo Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 kell 14:03: Thanx for the comments ! Tarmo: When you have a QML-file, what kind of development environment is needed in order to get a working UI ? I suppose the communication happens through g-variables and channels in Csound ? Dave: If I understand correctly the browser-application communicates with O-S-C server that then sends messages to Csound ? There seem to be already some OSC* opcodes available in Csound. https://csound.com/docs/manual/OSC.html Should those be used in a .csd-file to connect to the O-S-C server ? --Risto la 22.3.2025 klo 13.40 Dave Seidel (dave.seidel@gmail.com) kirjoitti: I should add that Open Stage Control and TouchOSC can both use MIDI and OSC. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Open Stage Control (O-S-C) for several years and like it very much, though I haven't done much with it lately. I typically run realtime Csound on a Raspberry Pi, and when I use Open Stage Control with it I run the O-S-C server on the same Raspberry Pi as Csound. Then I can access the UI from the browser on a tablet (or from any device with a browser). Though I haven't tried this yet, you should also be able to use TouchOSC with Csound. TouchOSC is very good. - Dave On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: > Hi Risto! > > Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, > it has turned very useful for me. > Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite > simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and > use it in CsoundRemote. > > What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely > also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ <https:// > csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> > oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... > > anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up > possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, > I suggest to look into it. > > Best! > tarmo > > > > Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com > <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 > kell 12:32: > > Hello all ! > > I started to google what is available for separation of an > independently running Csound > and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a > common situation with e.g. > Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use > something like this with > LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. > a Android-phone or -tablet. > > I found this one related to CsoundQt: > > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md > <https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md> > > So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets > which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development > environment ??) > > Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: > > https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html <https://csound.com/ > docs/manual/udpserver.html> > > By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about > the UI-side? > Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? > > --Risto > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- > bin/wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ > wa?A0=CSOUND <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs > reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues <https://github.com/ > csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-23 21:14
From	joachim heintz
Subject	Re: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	was it an extension of https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html or did you write a new page? On 22/03/2025 13:44, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > It’s in the Csound 7 manual. Not sure if it has been ported to the new MD version from docbook. > > ======================== > Prof. Victor Lazzarini > Maynooth University > Ireland > >> On 22 Mar 2025, at 11:58, Tarmo Johannes wrote: >> >> Warning >> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. >> Hi! >> >> There is more of it about osc control in Csound 7, I cannot find the page though... >> >> Tarmo >> >> L, 22. märts 2025 13:25 joachim heintz kirjutas: >> hi tarmo - >> >> do you mean this site? >> https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html >> >> this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. >> do you mean anything else? >> >> ciao - >> joachim >> >> >> On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: >>> Hi Risto! >>> >>> Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, >>> it has turned very useful for me. >>> Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite >>> simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and >>> use it in CsoundRemote. >>> >>> What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely >>> also via OSC now: https://csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/ >> csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> >>> oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... >>> >>> anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up >>> possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, >>> I suggest to look into it. >>> >>> Best! >>> tarmo >>> >>> >>> >>> Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (>> >) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 >>> kell 12:32: >>> >>> Hello all ! >>> >>> I started to google what is available for separation of an >>> independently running Csound >>> and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a >>> common situation with e.g. >>> Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use >>> something like this with >>> LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. >>> a Android-phone or -tablet. >>> >>> I found this one related to CsoundQt: >>> >>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md >>> >>> >>> So it is possible to create QML-files from Csound QT-widgets >>> which can be compiled to some working UI. (compiler, development >>> environment ??) >>> >>> Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: >>> >>> https://csound.com/docs/manual/udpserver.html >> docs/manual/udpserver.html> >>> >>> By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about >>> the UI-side? >>> Any suggestions, trials, examples etc ? >>> >>> --Risto >>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi- >>> bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >>> Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >>> Discussions of bugs and >>> features can be posted here >>> >>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/ >>> wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs >>> reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-23 21:28
From	Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE>
Subject	Re: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	I see it in the csound 7 branch https://github.com/csound/manual/blob/csound7/overview/server.xml Prof. Victor Lazzarini Maynooth University Ireland On 23 Mar 2025, at 21:15, joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote: was it an extension of https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcsound.com%2Fdocs%2Fmanual%2Fudpserver.html&data=05%7C02%7Cvictor.lazzarini%40MU.IE%7C8b2ed6259c5545fbfc1908dd6a4fd04b%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C0%7C0%7C638783613215182502%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=h42o9EESgMo1SPytGF99KYgQbz%2BH6ISwTnjGTsLGoTE%3D&reserved=0 or did you write a new page? On 22/03/2025 13:44, Victor Lazzarini wrote: It’s in the Csound 7 manual. Not sure if it has been ported to the new MD version from docbook. ======================== Prof. Victor Lazzarini Maynooth University Ireland On 22 Mar 2025, at 11:58, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@GMAIL.COM> wrote: Warning This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi! There is more of it about osc control in Csound 7, I cannot find the page though... Tarmo L, 22. märts 2025 13:25 joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> kirjutas: hi tarmo - do you mean this site? https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcsound.com%2Fdocs%2Fmanual%2Fudpserver.html&data=05%7C02%7Cvictor.lazzarini%40MU.IE%7C8b2ed6259c5545fbfc1908dd6a4fd04b%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C0%7C0%7C638783613215202983%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lX8pqSP8XgXiftlT7vAT4os7xUy4xTRgiZKZmk%2BrTl8%3D&reserved=0 this is not new for csound 7, but has been there for quite some time. do you mean anything else? ciao - joachim On 22/03/2025 12:05, Tarmo Johannes wrote: Hi Risto! Yes, I created CsoundRemote years ago and have used in many many cases, it has turned very useful for me. Especially nowadays using ChatGPT to create UI-s in QML can be quite simple. Also, you can export the main widgets from CsoundQt to QML and use it in CsoundRemote. What can be interesting for you - Csound 7 can be controlled remotely also via OSC now: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcsound.com%2Fmanual%2Fmisc-udp-server%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cvictor.lazzarini%40MU.IE%7C8b2ed6259c5545fbfc1908dd6a4fd04b%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C0%7C0%7C638783613215216081%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d1%2FqNFcuPYJaiKW5bGzPIt6CSvh7GRNGUsW%2BJfMDhH4%3D&reserved=0 <https:// csound.com/manual/misc-udp-server/> oh, the page is down or moved elsewhere at the moment... anyway, controlling via OSC is an absolutey great feature and opens up possibilities to control Csound via OpenStageControl or other OSC apps, I suggest to look into it. Best! tarmo Kontakt Risto Kuusisto (<rjzkuusisto@gmail.com <mailto:rjzkuusisto@gmail.com>>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 22. märts 2025 kell 12:32: Hello all ! I started to google what is available for separation of an independently running Csound and a UI locating in another computer. I think this could be a common situation with e.g. Raspberry PI. Such projects like MOD or PiPedal seem to use something like this with LV2-plugins. Typically it is nice if the UI-side is running in e.g. a Android-phone or -tablet. 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(compiler, development environment ??) Another basic feature that is already available in Csound: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcsound.com%2Fdocs%2Fmanual%2Fudpserver.html&data=05%7C02%7Cvictor.lazzarini%40MU.IE%7C8b2ed6259c5545fbfc1908dd6a4fd04b%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C0%7C0%7C638783613215252889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Eyfsvky2VQNt%2FWfPwaROstGgPrivaqIRu0qjYD%2FqNnU%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcsound.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cvictor.lazzarini%40MU.IE%7C8b2ed6259c5545fbfc1908dd6a4fd04b%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C0%7C0%7C638783613215264786%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CShh4%2BI%2BGXxE6dI97%2B9mTZkK2NzdNjR9XodacZ6fKBU%3D&reserved=0 docs/manual/udpserver.html> By using that half of the problem is already solved. But what about the UI-side? 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Date	2025-03-26 10:39
From	Risto Kuusisto
Subject	[Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Tarmo Just because of curiosity I tried your specification with Copilot. Here's the result: import QtQuick Rectangle { width: 400 height: 600 // Fill parent if present anchors.fill: parent // Background gradient gradient: Gradient { GradientStop { position: 0.0; color: "darkgreen" } GradientStop { position: 1.0; color: "black" } } // Label "TRYOUT" Text { text: "TRYOUT" font.pixelSize: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 20 color: "white" } // First Row: Label "Volume" and Slider Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 60 Text { text: "Volume" color: "white" font.pixelSize: 16 } Slider { from: 0 to: 1 onValueChanged: csound.setControlChannel("volume", value) width: 200 } } // Second Row: Buttons Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 120 Button { text: "Play" onClicked: csound.readScore("i 1 0 3") } The playground you mentioned complained about Slider. Clearly there is something wrong in the result Note, I added this import for the playgroiund, because Copilot coul not know that it is needed: import 'https://www.canonic.com/metonym/release/Metonym/' 0.1 as Metonym --Risto Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2025-03-26 11:43
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: [Csnd] Remote UI for Csound
	Hi! The suggested code missed 'import QtQuick.Controls' and had two '}' missing from the end (probably just copying error. This works: import QtQuick import QtQuick.Controls Rectangle { width: 400 height: 600 // Fill parent if present anchors.fill: parent // Background gradient gradient: Gradient { GradientStop { position: 0.0; color: "darkgreen" } GradientStop { position: 1.0; color: "black" } } // Label "TRYOUT" Text { text: "TRYOUT" font.pixelSize: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 20 color: "white" } // First Row: Label "Volume" and Slider Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 60 Text { text: "Volume" color: "white" font.pixelSize: 16 } Slider { from: 0 to: 1 onValueChanged: csound.setControlChannel("volume", value) width: 200 } } // Second Row: Buttons Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 120 Button { text: "Play" onClicked: csound.readScore("i 1 0 3") } } } I used ChatGPT that gave me desired result immediately. But of course, the AI-s have also their better an worse moments. t K, 26. märts 2025 12:39 Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> kirjutas: Tarmo Just because of curiosity I tried your specification with Copilot. Here's the result: import QtQuick Rectangle { width: 400 height: 600 // Fill parent if present anchors.fill: parent // Background gradient gradient: Gradient { GradientStop { position: 0.0; color: "darkgreen" } GradientStop { position: 1.0; color: "black" } } // Label "TRYOUT" Text { text: "TRYOUT" font.pixelSize: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 20 color: "white" } // First Row: Label "Volume" and Slider Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 60 Text { text: "Volume" color: "white" font.pixelSize: 16 } Slider { from: 0 to: 1 onValueChanged: csound.setControlChannel("volume", value) width: 200 } } // Second Row: Buttons Row { spacing: 20 anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter anchors.top: parent.top anchors.topMargin: 120 Button { text: "Play" onClicked: csound.readScore("i 1 0 3") } The playground you mentioned complained about Slider. Clearly there is something wrong in the result Note, I added this import for the playgroiund, because Copilot coul not know that it is needed: import 'https://www.canonic.com/metonym/release/Metonym/' 0.1 as Metonym --Risto Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here