Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:

> Hi,
>
> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>
> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave oscil 
> with hardsync.
...
> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
...
Hi Rasmus,
this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
wondering...

Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!

Best wishes,

Jeanette

--------
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Hi Jeanette,
The shifting opposite saw signals is a nice trick to create pulse-width waveform.
You can also support sync by snapping the saw when you get the trigger signal.

These shapes are directly available in squinewave, but you could of course also
use its saw shape to create the effect (with a more rounded bandlimited waveform).

Cheers,
     /re


On 2017-11-06 02:21, Jeanette C. wrote:
> Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>>
>> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave oscil with hardsync.
> ...
>> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
> ...
> Hi Rasmus,
> this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
> when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
> something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
> the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
> a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
> could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
> signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
> modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
> and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
> hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
> wondering...
>
> Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeanette
>
> --------
> * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
> * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
>
> There must be another way
> Cause I believe in taking chances
> But who am I to say - What a girl is to do <3
> (Britney Spears)
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Wonderful!

Thanks for sharing..

Richard

Hi,

Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.

Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave oscil with hardsync.

Bandlimiting is an effect of how the waveform is rendered:
The waveform uses a minimum sweep rate in samples (usually 10-20 samples).
Squarewave, saw, pulses etc cannot make sharper transitions than these; therefore at higher frequency all waveforms "degrade" to sinewave.
(This is not a limit on frequency, FM can send it into aliasing as per usual.)

I'm grateful for comments on interface and behavior;
Naming, code style, interface (arg types), docs, etc.

Some example CSD:s are provided, they use squinewave for modulation and output.
soundfiles for two of them are here:
https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squine_fm_pulse.wav (Mono 4 MB)
https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squine_hardsync_and_fm.wav (Stereo 5.3 MB)
- the latter has 2 sections; in each the left chan modulates right, first using hardsync then with FM

Code (single c file), docs (txt file) and examples attached in zip file.
Build instructions at bottom of squinewave.c

Also here:
https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip


Regards,

    /re

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Sounds nice to my ear, curious to give it a try!

For interface, I think having in-args of "xxx?oj" might work (i-, k-,
or a- for first three args; ? allows for optional var of any type).  I
can imagine wanting to use just i or k for the first three args (say,
if values are coming from a UI widget or something).

For docs, I searched online for squine and found a few things:

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2r5xqx/i_present_my_live_demo_of_the_squine_function/
https://www.reddit.com/r/matheducation/comments/1rbgt2/squine_cosquine_playing_around_with_trig/
http://www.tegam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WaveWorks-Jr.-Manual-Rev-C.pdf

I had never heard of squines before; is this oscillator related to the
the above links?

Thanks!
steven


On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jeanette C.  wrote:
> Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>>
>> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave
>> oscil with hardsync.
>
> ...
>>
>> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
>
> ...
> Hi Rasmus,
> this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
> when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
> something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
> the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
> a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
> could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
> signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
> modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
> and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
> hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
> wondering...
>
> Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeanette
>
> --------
> * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
> * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
>
> There must be another way
> Cause I believe in taking chances
> But who am I to say - What a girl is to do <3
> (Britney Spears)
>
>
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Thanks for your suggestions!

(1) Input arguments: It's one of the discussion points I hoped to hear about.
I have good reasons for everything, but they may be wrong...

(2) Questionmark for optional a-rate: Oh, that's new maybe? I build against 2016-12-16 sources.
Didn't update since it was such a hassle to get to build. Will check that.

(3) The name: I just googled the word squine some time ago, missed those articles.
The wordplay is about as obvious as it's crude I guess.


Maybe there's space for (1) anyway here:

K-rate inputs
freq, clip and skew args are used at every sample point to calc the right waveform.
The waveform changes quickly, esp. under FM.
With high clipping, the waveform slope is much steeper than base frequency suggests,
so any jumps are much more degrading/aliasing than sending k-rate freq to a regular sinewave poscil
(which to my ear is pretty much criminal already, in this day...)

So while it's not unthinkable to allow k-rate, I would probably insist on ramping the args internally,
and that kind of beats any savings, what with added complexity.

That's my take on it now anyway.

Regards,
     /rasmus


On 2017-11-06 15:47, Steven Yi wrote:
> Sounds nice to my ear, curious to give it a try!
>
> For interface, I think having in-args of "xxx?oj" might work (i-, k-,
> or a- for first three args; ? allows for optional var of any type).  I
> can imagine wanting to use just i or k for the first three args (say,
> if values are coming from a UI widget or something).
>
> For docs, I searched online for squine and found a few things:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2r5xqx/i_present_my_live_demo_of_the_squine_function/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/matheducation/comments/1rbgt2/squine_cosquine_playing_around_with_trig/
> http://www.tegam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WaveWorks-Jr.-Manual-Rev-C.pdf
>
> I had never heard of squines before; is this oscillator related to the
> the above links?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jeanette C.  wrote:
>> Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>>>
>>> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave
>>> oscil with hardsync.
>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
>>
>> ...
>> Hi Rasmus,
>> this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
>> when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
>> something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
>> the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
>> a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
>> could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
>> signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
>> modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
>> and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
>> hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
>> wondering...
>>
>> Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jeanette
>>
>> --------
>> * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
>> * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
>>
>> There must be another way
>> Cause I believe in taking chances
>> But who am I to say - What a girl is to do <3
>> (Britney Spears)
>>
>>
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Csound should be pretty easy to build with Visual Studio these days on
Windows (see the msvc folder for everything setup for that; we used
your list you posted to the dev list back in December as a start to
all of the current VS work).  The ? in-arg change was introduced for
Csound 6.0 though as it was necessary for implementing opcodes that
worked with arrays of any-type.

Thanks for clarifying the other squine links; I guess then this isn't
a cosquine like in the one video? ;)   (funny terms! :D )

For k-rate, I see your point of view when it comes to changing values,
but I suppose the use case I imagined was a little different where the
value doesn't change during the duration of a note but maybe the user
is adjusting a knob for a static value.  As it is now, one might write
something like:

ifreq = cps2pch(p4, 12)
iclip = chnget:i("clip_val") ;; from a UI
iskew = chnget:i("skew_val") ;; from a UI

asig squinewave a(ifreq), a(iclip), a(iskew)

So maybe a user has a static skew but time-varying clip, or
vice-versa.  I found when I did the ZDF opcodes that I had started
with a-rate only args too but after a while it became cumbersome to
use a() to wrap static values when I wanted to use it, so I had
introduced x-arg types. The args to squinewave reminded me of that
situation.


On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:12 PM, rasmus ekman  wrote:
> Thanks for your suggestions!
>
> (1) Input arguments: It's one of the discussion points I hoped to hear
> about.
> I have good reasons for everything, but they may be wrong...
>
> (2) Questionmark for optional a-rate: Oh, that's new maybe? I build against
> 2016-12-16 sources.
> Didn't update since it was such a hassle to get to build. Will check that.
>
> (3) The name: I just googled the word squine some time ago, missed those
> articles.
> The wordplay is about as obvious as it's crude I guess.
>
>
> Maybe there's space for (1) anyway here:
>
> K-rate inputs
> freq, clip and skew args are used at every sample point to calc the right
> waveform.
> The waveform changes quickly, esp. under FM.
> With high clipping, the waveform slope is much steeper than base frequency
> suggests,
> so any jumps are much more degrading/aliasing than sending k-rate freq to a
> regular sinewave poscil
> (which to my ear is pretty much criminal already, in this day...)
>
> So while it's not unthinkable to allow k-rate, I would probably insist on
> ramping the args internally,
> and that kind of beats any savings, what with added complexity.
>
> That's my take on it now anyway.
>
> Regards,
>     /rasmus
>
>
>
> On 2017-11-06 15:47, Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>> Sounds nice to my ear, curious to give it a try!
>>
>> For interface, I think having in-args of "xxx?oj" might work (i-, k-,
>> or a- for first three args; ? allows for optional var of any type).  I
>> can imagine wanting to use just i or k for the first three args (say,
>> if values are coming from a UI widget or something).
>>
>> For docs, I searched online for squine and found a few things:
>>
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2r5xqx/i_present_my_live_demo_of_the_squine_function/
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/matheducation/comments/1rbgt2/squine_cosquine_playing_around_with_trig/
>>
>> http://www.tegam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WaveWorks-Jr.-Manual-Rev-C.pdf
>>
>> I had never heard of squines before; is this oscillator related to the
>> the above links?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jeanette C.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>>>>
>>>> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave
>>>> oscil with hardsync.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> Hi Rasmus,
>>> this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
>>> when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
>>> something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
>>> the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
>>> a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
>>> could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
>>> signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
>>> modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
>>> and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
>>> hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
>>> wondering...
>>>
>>> Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jeanette
>>>
>>> --------
>>> * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
>>> * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
>>>
>>> There must be another way
>>> Cause I believe in taking chances
>>> But who am I to say - What a girl is to do <3
>>> (Britney Spears)
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Hi,
I've updated to reflect Steven's note about optional a-rate.

It's the same zip file as before, just code and docs changed:
https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip

...but building against 6.09.1 I still get "missing required argument" when I omit the optional a-rate argument.
I have
     { "squinewave", sizeof(SQUINEWAVE), 0, 5, "am", "aaa?oj", (SUBR)squinewave_init, NULL, (SUBR)squinewave_gen },

And the questionmark doesn't help. Is this really super-new?


Anyway also solved a simple math puzzle that I failed before. (No real difference, just one code line slightly shorter)

Any other ideas, please argue.
(For instance, the lack of amp argument, is that unacceptable?
- I don't mind adding, but to me it's just a pointless multiplication that does nothing in the algorithm)


Is there an opposite of deprecation so people can try it?
I don't have dev access to the github, so whenever you're ok with it, feel free to add. Or wait.

Regards,

     /re



On 2017-11-06 15:47, Steven Yi wrote:
> Sounds nice to my ear, curious to give it a try!
>
> For interface, I think having in-args of "xxx?oj" might work (i-, k-,
> or a- for first three args; ? allows for optional var of any type).  I
> can imagine wanting to use just i or k for the first three args (say,
> if values are coming from a UI widget or something).
>
> For docs, I searched online for squine and found a few things:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2r5xqx/i_present_my_live_demo_of_the_squine_function/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/matheducation/comments/1rbgt2/squine_cosquine_playing_around_with_trig/
> http://www.tegam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WaveWorks-Jr.-Manual-Rev-C.pdf
>
> I had never heard of squines before; is this oscillator related to the
> the above links?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jeanette C.  wrote:
>> Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.
>>>
>>> Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave
>>> oscil with hardsync.
>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip
>>
>> ...
>> Hi Rasmus,
>> this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,
>> when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on
>> something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used
>> the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading
>> a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I
>> could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two
>> signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth
>> modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12
>> and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and
>> hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just
>> wondering...
>>
>> Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jeanette
>>
>> --------
>> * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
>> * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
>>
>> There must be another way
>> Cause I believe in taking chances
>> But who am I to say - What a girl is to do <3
>> (Britney Spears)
>>
>>
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Hi,
I've updated to reflect Steven's note about optional a-rate.

It's the same zip file as before, just code and docs changed:
https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip

...but building against 6.09.1 I still get "missing required argument" when I omit the optional a-rate argument.
I have
   { "squinewave", sizeof(SQUINEWAVE), 0, 5, "am", "aaa?oj", (SUBR)squinewave_init, NULL, (SUBR)squinewave_gen },

And the questionmark doesn't help. Is this really super-new?


Anyway also solved a simple math puzzle that I failed before. (No real difference, just one code line slightly shorter)

Any other ideas, please argue.
(For instance, the lack of amp argument, is that unacceptable?
- I don't mind adding, but to me it's just a pointless multiplication that does nothing in the algorithm)


Is there an opposite of deprecation so people can try it?
I don't have dev access to the github, so whenever you're ok with it, feel free to add. Or wait.

Regards,

   /re



On 2017-11-06 15:47, Steven Yi wrote:

Sounds nice to my ear, curious to give it a try!

For interface, I think having in-args of "xxx?oj" might work (i-, k-,

or a- for first three args; ? allows for optional var of any type).  I

can imagine wanting to use just i or k for the first three args (say,

if values are coming from a UI widget or something).

For docs, I searched online for squine and found a few things:

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/2r5xqx/i_present_my_live_demo_of_the_squine_function/

https://www.reddit.com/r/matheducation/comments/1rbgt2/squine_cosquine_playing_around_with_trig/

http://www.tegam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WaveWorks-Jr.-Manual-Rev-C.pdf

I had never heard of squines before; is this oscillator related to the

the above links?

Thanks!

steven

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote:

Nov 6 2017, rasmus ekman has written:

Hi,

Here's an oscillator I'd like to submit for use in Csound.

Output is a mostly bandlimited shape-shifting square-pulse-saw-sinewave

oscil with hardsync.

...

https://www.abc.se/~re/squinewave/squinewave_2017-11-05.zip

...

Hi Rasmus,

this is absolutely brilliant. I'm not good at reading code, especially,

when it gets down to the DSP nitty-gritty. But I've been working on

something similar in Csound, without the option to hardsync. I've used

the possibility to somehow change a sine to a saw wave and then reading

a phase shifted version. By changing the polarity of the second signal I

could chnage from saw to square. By shifting the phases between the two

signals the oscillator could do pulse width modulation or sawtooth

modulation as found in some hardware synths (Yamah AN1X, DSI Prophet12

and other DSI synths with digital oscillator, possibly more soft and

hardware synths). Could that be an option in your code? Just

wondering...

Great work! Thanks a lot for sharing this code! This is great!

Best wishes,

Jeanette

--------

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* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c

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Whichever is least risk of me crashing stuff. Pull requests?

(Using git/bitbucket at work, but only by pushing buttons in Eclipse, I'll read up.)

Thanks,

     /rasmus



On 2017-11-09 07:55, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> There are two ways to contribute directly: 1) use pull requests; 2) joining the dev team and getting write access. Let us know what you would like to do.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
>
> On 9 Nov 2017, at 04:32, rasmus ekman > wrote:
>
>> Is there an opposite of deprecation so people can try it?

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Pull requests definitely.
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> On 9 Nov 2017, at 16:51, rasmus ekman  wrote:
> 
> Whichever is least risk of me crashing stuff. Pull requests?
> 
> (Using git/bitbucket at work, but only by pushing buttons in Eclipse, I'll read up.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>    /rasmus
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-11-09 07:55, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> There are two ways to contribute directly: 1) use pull requests; 2) joining the dev team and getting write access. Let us know what you would like to do.
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> 
>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 04:32, rasmus ekman > wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there an opposite of deprecation so people can try it?
> 
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Thinks I figured out which buttons to push, so I need permissions for pull requests.
Also for the manual I guess.

Or whichever is easiest for everybody, would the requests cause work for someone else to actually commit?

Apparently my github handle is
ostinato


Cheers,

     /re



On 2017-11-09 17:56, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Pull requests definitely.
> ========================

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I am not aware you need any permissions for that. Just submit it and then it’s reviewed and approved/etc.
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> On 10 Nov 2017, at 03:24, rasmus ekman  wrote:
> 
> Thinks I figured out which buttons to push, so I need permissions for pull requests.
> Also for the manual I guess.
> 
> Or whichever is easiest for everybody, would the requests cause work for someone else to actually commit?
> 
> Apparently my github handle is
> ostinato
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>    /re
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-11-09 17:56, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Pull requests definitely.
>> ========================
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Just to clarify, normally you’d create a pull request from a fork:

https://help.github.com/articles/creating-a-pull-request-from-a-fork/

and

https://help.github.com/articles/creating-a-pull-request/#changing-the-branch-range-and-destination-repository

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> On 10 Nov 2017, at 03:24, rasmus ekman  wrote:
> 
> Thinks I figured out which buttons to push, so I need permissions for pull requests.
> Also for the manual I guess.
> 
> Or whichever is easiest for everybody, would the requests cause work for someone else to actually commit?
> 
> Apparently my github handle is
> ostinato
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>    /re
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-11-09 17:56, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Pull requests definitely.
>> ========================
> 
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