Whenever you call chnset, if the channel does not exist, it will be created. So in general, you may not need
to declare channels to start with.

The API function GetChannelPtr() likewise creates a channel if there isn’t one. From the API reference
(https://csound.com/docs/api/group__CONTROLEVENTS.html#gaeac3632d42e1d94d6d65a099f940a9db)

PUBLIC int csoundGetChannelPtr(CSOUND * ,MYFLT ** p,const char * name,int type )

Stores a pointer to the specified channel of the bus in *p, creating the channel first if it does not exist yet.

So you can just create a channel with it too.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Sep 2024, at 16:18, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> *Warning*
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Hello all,
>
> I have been testing channels to communicate with java and partly also succeeded.
> Now I have noticed something, where I don't know if there is a problem in the versions of Csound (6.17) or csnd6.jar that I use.
> 1) Csound-side
> If i have something like this in csd-code:
> ...
> chn_k "Dat2", 2, 1
> ...
> chnset kData2, "Dat2"
>
> This works well. Now if I add a line:
> chnset kStatus, "BBBB"
> That works also without complaints although I haven't added any new chn_k-definition.
> I would have expected some error-message at least during run-time because of the missing
> channel definition.
>
> So the code works without complaints but where does that kStatus-value now go, when "BBBB" is not defined ?
>
> 2) Java-side
> I assumed that the following code would catch an exception, if the Csound-counterpart can not be found: (Note c is a csound-object here)
> try {
> c.GetChannelPtr(ReqChannel.GetPtr(), "Req",
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_CONTROL_CHANNEL.swigValue() |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_INPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue()  |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_OUTPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue());
> } catch(Exception ee) {
> System.out.println("problemos");
> }
>
> So in this case I had a faulty definition for "Req1" in the csound-code but not the required
> correct "Req".
> As a surprise to me java-code was executed without any error-messages during run-time
> and the execution did not reach the catch-part above.
>
> Is the situation the same in the of python- or c++-case ?
> Or can this be handled by some other means, e.g. is there a way to check the existence of the channel somehow before trying to connec to that ?
>
> --Risto
>
>
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There is no error to speak of in this case.

This code has been used for over twenty years in numerous projects, including many commercial software that people pay money for and it has not been found that there is a design problem.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 11 Sep 2024, at 18:41, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, it has been designed in that way to be as flexible as possible. From programming point of view you can't be sure if your code is correct.

Neither compilation nor run-time doesn't give any indication of a possible error in your code.

In small cases this may not be a problem, but how about the larger ones ?

So there really isn't a method (in java/python/c++) that would tell the names of the available channels of the Csound-object in question?

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 19.56 Victor Lazzarini (000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie) kirjoitti:

Whenever you call chnset, if the channel does not exist, it will be created. So in general, you may not need
to declare channels to start with.

The API function GetChannelPtr() likewise creates a channel if there isn’t one. From the API reference
(https://csound.com/docs/api/group__CONTROLEVENTS.html#gaeac3632d42e1d94d6d65a099f940a9db)

PUBLIC int csoundGetChannelPtr(CSOUND * ,MYFLT ** p,const char * name,int type )

Stores a pointer to the specified channel of the bus in *p, creating the channel first if it does not exist yet.

So you can just create a channel with it too.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Sep 2024, at 16:18, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> *Warning*
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Hello all,
>
> I have been testing channels to communicate with java and partly also succeeded.
> Now I have noticed something, where I don't know if there is a problem in the versions of Csound (6.17) or csnd6.jar that I use.
> 1) Csound-side
> If i have something like this in csd-code:
> ...
> chn_k "Dat2", 2, 1
> ...
> chnset kData2, "Dat2"
>
> This works well. Now if I add a line:
> chnset kStatus, "BBBB"
> That works also without complaints although I haven't added any new chn_k-definition.
> I would have expected some error-message at least during run-time because of the missing
> channel definition.
>
> So the code works without complaints but where does that kStatus-value now go, when "BBBB" is not defined ?
>
> 2) Java-side
> I assumed that the following code would catch an exception, if the Csound-counterpart can not be found: (Note c is a csound-object here)
> try {
> c.GetChannelPtr(ReqChannel.GetPtr(), "Req",
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_CONTROL_CHANNEL.swigValue() |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_INPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue()  |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_OUTPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue());
> } catch(Exception ee) {
> System.out.println("problemos");
> }
>
> So in this case I had a faulty definition for "Req1" in the csound-code but not the required
> correct "Req".
> As a surprise to me java-code was executed without any error-messages during run-time
> and the execution did not reach the catch-part above.
>
> Is the situation the same in the of python- or c++-case ?
> Or can this be handled by some other means, e.g. is there a way to check the existence of the channel somehow before trying to connec to that ?
>
> --Risto
>
>
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Hi Risto,

Yes, you should not worry about the channel management, it is very solid.

If in some reason your code needs to check which channels are available, you can use

PUBLIC int csoundListChannels(CSOUND *, controlChannelInfo_t **lst);

(this is from C API, most likely it is exposed also to the Java API)

see https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/blob/cbbcdaed5e002c280903e6c95d30a0d88ca4f858/src/csoundengine.cpp#L1043

from the code of CsoundQt (it is C++ ) to get some idea how it could be used.

As much I know, csoundListChannels reports only the channels that are declared with chn_k/chn_S, so that's why those opcodes are can be necessary.

It all depends  from your own use case, what you need and what your host does.

Best!

tarmo

Kontakt vlz (<viclazzarini@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval K, 11. september 2024 kell 21:32:

There is no error to speak of in this case.

This code has been used for over twenty years in numerous projects, including many commercial software that people pay money for and it has not been found that there is a design problem.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 11 Sep 2024, at 18:41, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, it has been designed in that way to be as flexible as possible. From programming point of view you can't be sure if your code is correct.

Neither compilation nor run-time doesn't give any indication of a possible error in your code.

In small cases this may not be a problem, but how about the larger ones ?

So there really isn't a method (in java/python/c++) that would tell the names of the available channels of the Csound-object in question?

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 19.56 Victor Lazzarini (000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie) kirjoitti:

Whenever you call chnset, if the channel does not exist, it will be created. So in general, you may not need
to declare channels to start with.

The API function GetChannelPtr() likewise creates a channel if there isn’t one. From the API reference
(https://csound.com/docs/api/group__CONTROLEVENTS.html#gaeac3632d42e1d94d6d65a099f940a9db)

PUBLIC int csoundGetChannelPtr(CSOUND * ,MYFLT ** p,const char * name,int type )

Stores a pointer to the specified channel of the bus in *p, creating the channel first if it does not exist yet.

So you can just create a channel with it too.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Sep 2024, at 16:18, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> *Warning*
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Hello all,
>
> I have been testing channels to communicate with java and partly also succeeded.
> Now I have noticed something, where I don't know if there is a problem in the versions of Csound (6.17) or csnd6.jar that I use.
> 1) Csound-side
> If i have something like this in csd-code:
> ...
> chn_k "Dat2", 2, 1
> ...
> chnset kData2, "Dat2"
>
> This works well. Now if I add a line:
> chnset kStatus, "BBBB"
> That works also without complaints although I haven't added any new chn_k-definition.
> I would have expected some error-message at least during run-time because of the missing
> channel definition.
>
> So the code works without complaints but where does that kStatus-value now go, when "BBBB" is not defined ?
>
> 2) Java-side
> I assumed that the following code would catch an exception, if the Csound-counterpart can not be found: (Note c is a csound-object here)
> try {
> c.GetChannelPtr(ReqChannel.GetPtr(), "Req",
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_CONTROL_CHANNEL.swigValue() |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_INPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue()  |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_OUTPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue());
> } catch(Exception ee) {
> System.out.println("problemos");
> }
>
> So in this case I had a faulty definition for "Req1" in the csound-code but not the required
> correct "Req".
> As a surprise to me java-code was executed without any error-messages during run-time
> and the execution did not reach the catch-part above.
>
> Is the situation the same in the of python- or c++-case ?
> Or can this be handled by some other means, e.g. is there a way to check the existence of the channel somehow before trying to connec to that ?
>
> --Risto
>
>
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I was not saying that channel management doesn't work. It seems to work fine.

The problem is that when I myself make a mistake, "Req1" on java-code, "Req2" on csound-code, what then ?

Neither java nor Csound does give any kind of error message, not during compilation or during run-time.

Maybe this has to be learned  in a hard way in practice and start to suspect the channel-names immediately,

if the application doesn't work as expected.

There seems to be this method in java also for Csound-object:

ListChannels()

I can see this in Eclipse. The problem is the argument type which has been copied here manually

from the help-display in Eclipse.

So the required argument type seen in Eclipse-help is SWIGTYPE_p_p_ControlChannellnfo_s.

I went through the whole list of methods for csound-object, but none of those has this type as their result type.

So I suppose it's something not doable in java.

Seems to be quite hard to stay in java without documentation when trying to communicate with Csound .

And "translating" c++ to java is a bit too much for me.

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 21.39 Tarmo Johannes (trmjhnns@gmail.com) kirjoitti:

Hi Risto,

Yes, you should not worry about the channel management, it is very solid.

If in some reason your code needs to check which channels are available, you can use

PUBLIC int csoundListChannels(CSOUND *, controlChannelInfo_t **lst);

(this is from C API, most likely it is exposed also to the Java API)

see https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/blob/cbbcdaed5e002c280903e6c95d30a0d88ca4f858/src/csoundengine.cpp#L1043

from the code of CsoundQt (it is C++ ) to get some idea how it could be used.

As much I know, csoundListChannels reports only the channels that are declared with chn_k/chn_S, so that's why those opcodes are can be necessary.

It all depends  from your own use case, what you need and what your host does.

Best!

tarmo

Kontakt vlz (<viclazzarini@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval K, 11. september 2024 kell 21:32:

There is no error to speak of in this case.

This code has been used for over twenty years in numerous projects, including many commercial software that people pay money for and it has not been found that there is a design problem.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 11 Sep 2024, at 18:41, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, it has been designed in that way to be as flexible as possible. From programming point of view you can't be sure if your code is correct.

Neither compilation nor run-time doesn't give any indication of a possible error in your code.

In small cases this may not be a problem, but how about the larger ones ?

So there really isn't a method (in java/python/c++) that would tell the names of the available channels of the Csound-object in question?

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 19.56 Victor Lazzarini (000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie) kirjoitti:

Whenever you call chnset, if the channel does not exist, it will be created. So in general, you may not need
to declare channels to start with.

The API function GetChannelPtr() likewise creates a channel if there isn’t one. From the API reference
(https://csound.com/docs/api/group__CONTROLEVENTS.html#gaeac3632d42e1d94d6d65a099f940a9db)

PUBLIC int csoundGetChannelPtr(CSOUND * ,MYFLT ** p,const char * name,int type )

Stores a pointer to the specified channel of the bus in *p, creating the channel first if it does not exist yet.

So you can just create a channel with it too.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Sep 2024, at 16:18, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> *Warning*
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Hello all,
>
> I have been testing channels to communicate with java and partly also succeeded.
> Now I have noticed something, where I don't know if there is a problem in the versions of Csound (6.17) or csnd6.jar that I use.
> 1) Csound-side
> If i have something like this in csd-code:
> ...
> chn_k "Dat2", 2, 1
> ...
> chnset kData2, "Dat2"
>
> This works well. Now if I add a line:
> chnset kStatus, "BBBB"
> That works also without complaints although I haven't added any new chn_k-definition.
> I would have expected some error-message at least during run-time because of the missing
> channel definition.
>
> So the code works without complaints but where does that kStatus-value now go, when "BBBB" is not defined ?
>
> 2) Java-side
> I assumed that the following code would catch an exception, if the Csound-counterpart can not be found: (Note c is a csound-object here)
> try {
> c.GetChannelPtr(ReqChannel.GetPtr(), "Req",
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_CONTROL_CHANNEL.swigValue() |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_INPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue()  |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_OUTPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue());
> } catch(Exception ee) {
> System.out.println("problemos");
> }
>
> So in this case I had a faulty definition for "Req1" in the csound-code but not the required
> correct "Req".
> As a surprise to me java-code was executed without any error-messages during run-time
> and the execution did not reach the catch-part above.
>
> Is the situation the same in the of python- or c++-case ?
> Or can this be handled by some other means, e.g. is there a way to check the existence of the channel somehow before trying to connec to that ?
>
> --Risto
>
>
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I missed this thread earlier, but for what it's worth, I'm using Java FFM now with Csound and have released a library called CsoundFFM:

https://central.sonatype.com/artifact/com.kunstmusik/csoundffm

It works with Java 22+. It's not fully compliant with Csound API yet but does work with both Csound 6 and 7. (Currently using it in one of Blue's development branches.) 

For channels, would you prefer to have something that can check if a channel exists? Seems like that'd be enough API-wise for you to do:

if(!csound.channelExists("test')) {
  throw Exception("Channel test did not exist");
}

and you could create some utility functions around that for your code. 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 3:49 PM Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote:

I was not saying that channel management doesn't work. It seems to work fine.

The problem is that when I myself make a mistake, "Req1" on java-code, "Req2" on csound-code, what then ?

Neither java nor Csound does give any kind of error message, not during compilation or during run-time.

Maybe this has to be learned  in a hard way in practice and start to suspect the channel-names immediately,

if the application doesn't work as expected.

There seems to be this method in java also for Csound-object:

ListChannels()

I can see this in Eclipse. The problem is the argument type which has been copied here manually

from the help-display in Eclipse.

So the required argument type seen in Eclipse-help is SWIGTYPE_p_p_ControlChannellnfo_s.

I went through the whole list of methods for csound-object, but none of those has this type as their result type.

So I suppose it's something not doable in java.

Seems to be quite hard to stay in java without documentation when trying to communicate with Csound .

And "translating" c++ to java is a bit too much for me.

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 21.39 Tarmo Johannes (trmjhnns@gmail.com) kirjoitti:

Hi Risto,

Yes, you should not worry about the channel management, it is very solid.

If in some reason your code needs to check which channels are available, you can use

PUBLIC int csoundListChannels(CSOUND *, controlChannelInfo_t **lst);

(this is from C API, most likely it is exposed also to the Java API)

see https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/blob/cbbcdaed5e002c280903e6c95d30a0d88ca4f858/src/csoundengine.cpp#L1043

from the code of CsoundQt (it is C++ ) to get some idea how it could be used.

As much I know, csoundListChannels reports only the channels that are declared with chn_k/chn_S, so that's why those opcodes are can be necessary.

It all depends  from your own use case, what you need and what your host does.

Best!

tarmo

Kontakt vlz (<viclazzarini@gmail.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval K, 11. september 2024 kell 21:32:

There is no error to speak of in this case.

This code has been used for over twenty years in numerous projects, including many commercial software that people pay money for and it has not been found that there is a design problem.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 11 Sep 2024, at 18:41, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, it has been designed in that way to be as flexible as possible. From programming point of view you can't be sure if your code is correct.

Neither compilation nor run-time doesn't give any indication of a possible error in your code.

In small cases this may not be a problem, but how about the larger ones ?

So there really isn't a method (in java/python/c++) that would tell the names of the available channels of the Csound-object in question?

--Risto

ke 11. syysk. 2024 klo 19.56 Victor Lazzarini (000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie) kirjoitti:

Whenever you call chnset, if the channel does not exist, it will be created. So in general, you may not need
to declare channels to start with.

The API function GetChannelPtr() likewise creates a channel if there isn’t one. From the API reference
(https://csound.com/docs/api/group__CONTROLEVENTS.html#gaeac3632d42e1d94d6d65a099f940a9db)

PUBLIC int csoundGetChannelPtr(CSOUND * ,MYFLT ** p,const char * name,int type )

Stores a pointer to the specified channel of the bus in *p, creating the channel first if it does not exist yet.

So you can just create a channel with it too.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Sep 2024, at 16:18, Risto Kuusisto <rjzkuusisto@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> *Warning*
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Hello all,
>
> I have been testing channels to communicate with java and partly also succeeded.
> Now I have noticed something, where I don't know if there is a problem in the versions of Csound (6.17) or csnd6.jar that I use.
> 1) Csound-side
> If i have something like this in csd-code:
> ...
> chn_k "Dat2", 2, 1
> ...
> chnset kData2, "Dat2"
>
> This works well. Now if I add a line:
> chnset kStatus, "BBBB"
> That works also without complaints although I haven't added any new chn_k-definition.
> I would have expected some error-message at least during run-time because of the missing
> channel definition.
>
> So the code works without complaints but where does that kStatus-value now go, when "BBBB" is not defined ?
>
> 2) Java-side
> I assumed that the following code would catch an exception, if the Csound-counterpart can not be found: (Note c is a csound-object here)
> try {
> c.GetChannelPtr(ReqChannel.GetPtr(), "Req",
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_CONTROL_CHANNEL.swigValue() |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_INPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue()  |
> controlChannelType.CSOUND_OUTPUT_CHANNEL.swigValue());
> } catch(Exception ee) {
> System.out.println("problemos");
> }
>
> So in this case I had a faulty definition for "Req1" in the csound-code but not the required
> correct "Req".
> As a surprise to me java-code was executed without any error-messages during run-time
> and the execution did not reach the catch-part above.
>
> Is the situation the same in the of python- or c++-case ?
> Or can this be handled by some other means, e.g. is there a way to check the existence of the channel somehow before trying to connec to that ?
>
> --Risto
>
>
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