[Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst
| Date | 2023-01-07 07:13 |
| From | Scott Daughtrey |
| Subject | [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst |
https://soundcloud.com/st-csound/the-suspenseful-flute-csound-see-song-description
Nothing too exciting here, a basic generative suspense piece. It is interesting though (for me as a relative Csound novice anyways) to hear Csound generate arguably better soundscapes than I've heard in some Netflix B movies, with a single flute sample and a few minor tweaks.
No tables or arrays used, no notes in the score, just random generation rounded off chromatically.
With a few better samples and some effort one could probably create, if nothing else, some good bed tracks that could be used as layers in more complete pieces. As I'm sure others have already done (feel free to post links if you like).
As an aside, given much of the recent talk in forums and YouTube about OpenAI, I ponder how much difference there really is between AI generated and "composed" generative (aleatoric, algorithmic) music? It would be an interesting discussion.
Thanks to Iain McCurdy for the original example and of course all the developers who make Csound possible.
Csound mailing list
Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
Send bugs reports to
https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |
| Date | 2023-01-07 09:56 |
| From | "Jeanette C." |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst |
Hi Scott!
Jan 7 2023, Scott Daughtrey has written:
> https://soundcloud.com/st-csound/the-suspenseful-flute-csound-see-song-description
...
This is a wonderful little piece. Very suspenseful and atmospheric.
Thanks also for the inspiration. Through your example I began work on a
sound based on sndwarpst with some midification.
The question about AI and human composers of music with strong aleatoric
aspects is an interesting one, but I think at some point the "human
genius" or character/style/inventiveness will apply again. The question
might be when and where in music based so strongly on generative means.
I suppose "generative" itself is such a "big term". Sorry, just my short
speculation, thinking out aloud.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--
* Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g
* Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c
* GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c
All I need is time
A moment that is mine
While I'm in between <3
(Britney Spears)
Csound mailing list
Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
Send bugs reports to
https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |
| Date | 2023-01-07 10:41 |
| From | Iain McCurdy |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst |
|
Very nice, Scott! I like how, even when using just a single source sound
and process, you can pivot mood using harmony, range and window size.
Thanks for sharing,
Iain
From: A discussion list for users of Csound <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> on behalf of Jeanette C. <julien@MAIL.UPB.DE>
Sent: 07 January 2023 09:56 To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> Subject: Re: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst Hi Scott!
Jan 7 2023, Scott Daughtrey has written: > https://soundcloud.com/st-csound/the-suspenseful-flute-csound-see-song-description ... This is a wonderful little piece. Very suspenseful and atmospheric. Thanks also for the inspiration. Through your example I began work on a sound based on sndwarpst with some midification. The question about AI and human composers of music with strong aleatoric aspects is an interesting one, but I think at some point the "human genius" or character/style/inventiveness will apply again. The question might be when and where in music based so strongly on generative means. I suppose "generative" itself is such a "big term". Sorry, just my short speculation, thinking out aloud. Best wishes, Jeanette -- * Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g * Audiobombs: https://www.audiobombs.com/users/jeanette_c * GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c All I need is time A moment that is mine While I'm in between <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |
| Date | 2023-01-07 13:57 |
| From | "Dr. Richard Boulanger" |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst |
Scott, A very nice piece. Thanks for composing and sharing. Please consider sharing your .csd too. I have been showing your generative music in my classes at Berklee. They have been inspired. Later this semester, I would like to show this one too (especially since you do not use tables). Every semester, I do a week on generative/algorithmic music and feature Iain's 'Haiku' masterpiece (a game changer for everyone who hears them), some Gogins (also amazing), some by Yi and many others. Last semester, I started sharing your work too - and the students really enjoyed it. So thanks! Wishing you all the best in 2023. - Dr.B Dr. Richard Boulanger Professor Electronic Production and Design Berklee College of Music Professional Writing & Technology Division On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 2:11 AM Scott Daughtrey <stunes6556@gmail.com> wrote: https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=soundcloud.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS9zdC1jc291bmQvdGhlLXN1c3BlbnNlZnVsLWZsdXRlLWNzb3VuZC1zZWUtc29uZy1kZXNjcmlwdGlvbg==&i=NWYxNzBkMDNiNTVmZGEwZmIyNjczYmRm&t=QThpNloxVDNzUkREUVB3VFdidktNM1kvUWJ4c1FUeWtGdElmMC84RTg3az0=&h=f3512edc4d204d809b049db3d466e119&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYpmKWVU1jKuTPLD5gnaWwAaG5wwcHTpfjKIfFGmt9h9A |
| Date | 2023-01-07 15:43 |
| From | Pablo Frank |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst |
|
To
share the .csd file will be immensely helpful.
From: A discussion list for users of Csound <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> on behalf of Scott Daughtrey <stunes6556@GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 7:13 AM To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> Subject: [Csnd] The Suspenseful Flute, generative atonal example using sndwarpst https://soundcloud.com/st-csound/the-suspenseful-flute-csound-see-song-description
Nothing too exciting here, a basic generative suspense piece. It is interesting though (for me as a relative Csound novice anyways) to hear Csound generate arguably better soundscapes than I've heard in some Netflix B movies, with a single flute sample and a few minor tweaks. No tables or arrays used, no notes in the score, just random generation rounded off chromatically. With a few better samples and some effort one could probably create, if nothing else, some good bed tracks that could be used as layers in more complete pieces. As I'm sure others have already done (feel free to post links if you like). As an aside, given much of the recent talk in forums and YouTube about OpenAI, I ponder how much difference there really is between AI generated and "composed" generative (aleatoric, algorithmic) music? It would be an interesting discussion. Thanks to Iain McCurdy for the original example and of course all the developers who make Csound possible. Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |