Hi All,

I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
some nice texture between the two layers.

I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.

Code was written using live.csound.com.

Enjoy!
steven



instr S1
  asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
.0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
  asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
* lfo(1, 3, 3))

  asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)

  out(asig, asig)
endin


schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))

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Hi Steven,

I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded 
patch once.
There are some errors in the console:

service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at 
'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but 
requested an insecure resource 
'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been 
blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
(anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
Promise.then (async)
(anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch 
https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc

Richard

On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> some nice texture between the two layers.
>
> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
>
> Code was written using live.csound.com.
>
> Enjoy!
> steven
>
>
>
> instr S1
>    asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
>    asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
>
>    asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
>
>    out(asig, asig)
> endin
>
>
> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>
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Great, but can we call this "code share", it's not really a patch...

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> some nice texture between the two layers.
> 
> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> 
> Code was written using live.csound.com.
> 
> Enjoy!
> steven
> 
> 
> 
> instr S1
>  asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
>  asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> 
>  asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> 
>  out(asig, asig)
> endin
> 
> 
> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> 
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Hi Richard,

Thanks for reporting that. I've fixed that up (may need to start again
in a separate tab and refresh to get the latest service worker). The
sound not producing seems to be from another issue having to do with
the foscili statements being spread out over multiple lines.   I'll
put together CSD example and attach here in a moment.

Steven

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM Richard  wrote:
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded
> patch once.
> There are some errors in the console:
>
> service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at
> 'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but
> requested an insecure resource
> 'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been
> blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
> Promise.then (async)
> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
> service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
> service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch
> https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc
>
> Richard
>
> On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> > Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> > this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> > and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> > Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> > 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> > shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> > layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> > some nice texture between the two layers.
> >
> > I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> > frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> > heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> > octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> >
> > Code was written using live.csound.com.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > steven
> >
> >
> >
> > instr S1
> >    asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> > .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
> >    asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> > * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> >
> >    asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> >
> >    out(asig, asig)
> > endin
> >
> >
> > schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >
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And here's a CSD version with some modifications for amplitudes.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:24 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks for reporting that. I've fixed that up (may need to start again
> in a separate tab and refresh to get the latest service worker). The
> sound not producing seems to be from another issue having to do with
> the foscili statements being spread out over multiple lines.   I'll
> put together CSD example and attach here in a moment.
>
> Steven
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM Richard  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steven,
> >
> > I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded
> > patch once.
> > There are some errors in the console:
> >
> > service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at
> > 'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but
> > requested an insecure resource
> > 'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been
> > blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
> > (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
> > Promise.then (async)
> > (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
> > service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
> > service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch
> > https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> > > Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> > > this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> > > and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> > > Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> > > 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> > > shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> > > layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> > > some nice texture between the two layers.
> > >
> > > I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> > > frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> > > heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> > > octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> > >
> > > Code was written using live.csound.com.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > > steven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > instr S1
> > >    asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> > > .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
> > >    asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> > > * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> > >
> > >    asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> > >
> > >    out(asig, asig)
> > > endin
> > >
> > >
> > > schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > > schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > > schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > > schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > > schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > >
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Happy to send future emails as "Code Share", but I'm curious why you
would say it's not a patch?

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>
> Great, but can we call this "code share", it's not really a patch...
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> > On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> > Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> > this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> > and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> > Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> > 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> > shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> > layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> > some nice texture between the two layers.
> >
> > I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> > frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> > heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> > octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> >
> > Code was written using live.csound.com.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > steven
> >
> >
> >
> > instr S1
> >  asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> > .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
> >  asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> > * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> >
> >  asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> >
> >  out(asig, asig)
> > endin
> >
> >
> > schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> > schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >
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Thanks! Nice and interesting sounds...

Richard

On 13/10/2019 14:31, Steven Yi wrote:
> And here's a CSD version with some modifications for amplitudes.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:24 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Thanks for reporting that. I've fixed that up (may need to start again
>> in a separate tab and refresh to get the latest service worker). The
>> sound not producing seems to be from another issue having to do with
>> the foscili statements being spread out over multiple lines.   I'll
>> put together CSD example and attach here in a moment.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM Richard  wrote:
>>> Hi Steven,
>>>
>>> I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded
>>> patch once.
>>> There are some errors in the console:
>>>
>>> service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at
>>> 'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but
>>> requested an insecure resource
>>> 'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been
>>> blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
>>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
>>> Promise.then (async)
>>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
>>> service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
>>> service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch
>>> https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
>>>> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
>>>> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
>>>> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
>>>> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
>>>> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
>>>> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
>>>> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
>>>> some nice texture between the two layers.
>>>>
>>>> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
>>>> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
>>>> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
>>>> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
>>>>
>>>> Code was written using live.csound.com.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> instr S1
>>>>     asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
>>>> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
>>>>     asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
>>>> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
>>>>
>>>>     asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
>>>>
>>>>     out(asig, asig)
>>>> endin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>
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>>> Csound mailing list
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:)

In case others might want to hear it first before trying out the code,
I posted a rendered audio file and a zip of the mp3 and CSD at:

https://kunstmusik.com/2019/10/13/sound-design-fm-with-modulations/


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:02 AM Richard  wrote:
>
> Thanks! Nice and interesting sounds...
>
> Richard
>
> On 13/10/2019 14:31, Steven Yi wrote:
> > And here's a CSD version with some modifications for amplitudes.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:24 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
> >> Hi Richard,
> >>
> >> Thanks for reporting that. I've fixed that up (may need to start again
> >> in a separate tab and refresh to get the latest service worker). The
> >> sound not producing seems to be from another issue having to do with
> >> the foscili statements being spread out over multiple lines.   I'll
> >> put together CSD example and attach here in a moment.
> >>
> >> Steven
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM Richard  wrote:
> >>> Hi Steven,
> >>>
> >>> I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded
> >>> patch once.
> >>> There are some errors in the console:
> >>>
> >>> service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at
> >>> 'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but
> >>> requested an insecure resource
> >>> 'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been
> >>> blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
> >>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
> >>> Promise.then (async)
> >>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
> >>> service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
> >>> service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch
> >>> https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> >>>> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> >>>> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> >>>> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> >>>> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> >>>> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> >>>> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> >>>> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> >>>> some nice texture between the two layers.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> >>>> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> >>>> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> >>>> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Code was written using live.csound.com.
> >>>>
> >>>> Enjoy!
> >>>> steven
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> instr S1
> >>>>     asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> >>>> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
> >>>>     asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> >>>> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> >>>>
> >>>>     asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> >>>>
> >>>>     out(asig, asig)
> >>>> endin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>>> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>>> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>>> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>>> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
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Well, for one, you're not patching anything.

I know people use to call Csound instruments and code "patches", but I think that's more appropriate to Pd or reaktor, where boxes are plugged together.

I think there's more in Csound code than simply patching boxes. Let's call it what it is,
code (or instruments, but it can be more than that) :)

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 13 Oct 2019, at 13:34, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> Happy to send future emails as "Code Share", but I'm curious why you
> would say it's not a patch?
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> 
>> Great, but can we call this "code share", it's not really a patch...
>> 
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
>>> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
>>> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
>>> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
>>> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
>>> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
>>> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
>>> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
>>> some nice texture between the two layers.
>>> 
>>> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
>>> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
>>> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
>>> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
>>> 
>>> Code was written using live.csound.com.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> steven
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> instr S1
>>> asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
>>> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
>>> asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
>>> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
>>> 
>>> asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
>>> 
>>> out(asig, asig)
>>> endin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>> 
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We could have a public site where these things are shared...

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 13 Oct 2019, at 14:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> :)
> 
> In case others might want to hear it first before trying out the code,
> I posted a rendered audio file and a zip of the mp3 and CSD at:
> 
> https://kunstmusik.com/2019/10/13/sound-design-fm-with-modulations/
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:02 AM Richard  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks! Nice and interesting sounds...
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>> On 13/10/2019 14:31, Steven Yi wrote:
>>> And here's a CSD version with some modifications for amplitudes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:24 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for reporting that. I've fixed that up (may need to start again
>>>> in a separate tab and refresh to get the latest service worker). The
>>>> sound not producing seems to be from another issue having to do with
>>>> the foscili statements being spread out over multiple lines.   I'll
>>>> put together CSD example and attach here in a moment.
>>>> 
>>>> Steven
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 7:53 AM Richard  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't get this to run and make sound. I only heard the initial loaded
>>>>> patch once.
>>>>> There are some errors in the console:
>>>>> 
>>>>> service-worker.js:37 Mixed Content: The page at
>>>>> 'https://live.csound.com/service-worker.js' was loaded over HTTPS, but
>>>>> requested an insecure resource
>>>>> 'http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js'. This request has been
>>>>> blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
>>>>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:37
>>>>> Promise.then (async)
>>>>> (anonymous) @ service-worker.js:35
>>>>> service-worker.js:1 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Failed to fetch
>>>>> service-worker.js:54 [ServiceWorker] Fetch
>>>>> https://live.csound.com/livecode.orc
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/10/2019 13:13, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
>>>>>> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
>>>>>> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
>>>>>> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
>>>>>> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
>>>>>> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
>>>>>> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
>>>>>> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
>>>>>> some nice texture between the two layers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
>>>>>> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
>>>>>> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
>>>>>> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Code was written using live.csound.com.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> steven
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> instr S1
>>>>>>    asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
>>>>>> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
>>>>>>    asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
>>>>>> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    out(asig, asig)
>>>>>> endin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>>> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
>>>>>> 
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I guess I have no issues thinking of these as patches since we're
connecting up unit generators, whether we using a cord, line, or a
variable (or expression) it's the same in my mind.  Then again, with
that framework in mind, I kind of find it odd to see modular synth
patching with cables being called live coding, so I guess there's
that. ;)  I suppose I'm also used to read/hearing of "synth patches"
often as a kind of preset or configuration for an existing topology of
generators (e.g.,
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/brass-synthesis-minimoog).

Anyways, let's go with "Code Share". It's not ambiguous here. :D

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:54 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>
> Well, for one, you're not patching anything.
>
> I know people use to call Csound instruments and code "patches", but I think that's more appropriate to Pd or reaktor, where boxes are plugged together.
>
> I think there's more in Csound code than simply patching boxes. Let's call it what it is,
> code (or instruments, but it can be more than that) :)
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> > On 13 Oct 2019, at 13:34, Steven Yi  wrote:
> >
> > Happy to send future emails as "Code Share", but I'm curious why you
> > would say it's not a patch?
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 8:15 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> >>
> >> Great, but can we call this "code share", it's not really a patch...
> >>
> >> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> >> Maynooth University
> >> Ireland
> >>
> >>> On 13 Oct 2019, at 12:14, Steven Yi  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I thought I'd share a patch (and perhaps encourage other "Patch
> >>> Sharing" emails... :) ) that came up from sound design exploration
> >>> this morning.  The following is complex FM (4 operator, what Chowning
> >>> and Bristow calls Parallel Carrier, Independent Modulator in "FM
> >>> Theory and Applications"). The two operator stacks are using 4:2 and
> >>> 1:1 C:M ratios. expseg envelopes are used to modulate the overall
> >>> shape of indices and unipolar square lfo's are used for an additional
> >>> layer of modulation. I thought the 12 and 3 Hertz for the lfo's gave
> >>> some nice texture between the two layers.
> >>>
> >>> I think it probably works best in the low end to middle of the
> >>> frequency range. The result using pch of 5.00 reminded me of things
> >>> heard in some progressive house tracks. I experimented with various
> >>> octaves, individually and together, and left the schedule calls below.
> >>>
> >>> Code was written using live.csound.com.
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy!
> >>> steven
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> instr S1
> >>> asig = foscili(p5 * 0.5, p4, 4, 2,  8 *  expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1,
> >>> .0001)  * lfo(1, 12, 3))
> >>> asig += foscili(p5, p4, 1,1, 16 * expseg(.001, 1, 1, p3 - 1, .0001)
> >>> * lfo(1, 3, 3))
> >>>
> >>> asig *= expseg:a(.001, 1, 1,  p3 - 1, .001)
> >>>
> >>> out(asig, asig)
> >>> endin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> schedule("S1", 0, 10, cpspch(5.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>> schedule("S1", 0, 8, cpspch(6.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>> schedule("S1", 0, 6, cpspch(7.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>> schedule("S1", 0, 4, cpspch(8.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>> schedule("S1", 0, 2, cpspch(9.00), ampdbfs(-12))
> >>>
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