Hi,

I was wondering if there’s a way to save sorted score as a txt or an sco file. 

The point is that I want to see all the pfield values. Especially the one I have score shortcut on as numbered values. 

Thank you! 
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There's this following command line flag (from the manual):

"
-t0, --keep-sorted-score

Prevents Csound from deleting the sorted score file, score.srt, upon exit.
"

The generated format is using %a (hexfloat) for formatting of p2,
newp2, p3, and newp3 values. Those values may be a bit cryptic on
their own, so might need to further process the file to make it a bit
more human readable.



On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:38 PM Marvin Kim  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if there’s a way to save sorted score as a txt or an sco file.
>
> The point is that I want to see all the pfield values. Especially the one I have score shortcut on as numbered values.
>
> Thank you!
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Steve, John, Victor,

We really need these values in a much clearer format!  It's cool that we have them, but what we are trying to see in my classes is the random or interpolated ramp values that we are often generating in the toots, etc.  

Could there be a much simpler (and student and dr.b. readable) output format of the sorted score?  Maybe a new command-line flag.  "Simple Sorted Score"????  Hope so.

-dB

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> There's this following command line flag (from the manual):
> 
> "
> -t0, --keep-sorted-score
> 
> Prevents Csound from deleting the sorted score file, score.srt, upon exit.
> "
> 
> The generated format is using %a (hexfloat) for formatting of p2,
> newp2, p3, and newp3 values. Those values may be a bit cryptic on
> their own, so might need to further process the file to make it a bit
> more human readable.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:38 PM Marvin Kim  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was wondering if there’s a way to save sorted score as a txt or an sco file.
>> 
>> The point is that I want to see all the pfield values. Especially the one I have score shortcut on as numbered values.
>> 
>> Thank you!
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The format of score.srt was changed to fix a bug on accuracy.  It would be possible to give an option to have iaccate numbers or it is "easy" to write utility to decide.  Given the pace in the release of 6.13 I think the second is a more satisfactory solution.

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On Jul 12, 2019, 01:27, at 01:27, "Dr. Richard Boulanger"  wrote:
>Steve, John, Victor,
>
>We really need these values in a much clearer format!  It's cool that
>we have them, but what we are trying to see in my classes is the random
>or interpolated ramp values that we are often generating in the toots,
>etc.  
>
>Could there be a much simpler (and student and dr.b. readable) output
>format of the sorted score?  Maybe a new command-line flag.  "Simple
>Sorted Score"????  Hope so.
>
>-dB
>
>Dr. Richard Boulanger
>Professor
>Electronic Production and Design
>Berklee College of Music
>
>> On Jul 11, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> 
>> There's this following command line flag (from the manual):
>> 
>> "
>> -t0, --keep-sorted-score
>> 
>> Prevents Csound from deleting the sorted score file, score.srt, upon
>exit.
>> "
>> 
>> The generated format is using %a (hexfloat) for formatting of p2,
>> newp2, p3, and newp3 values. Those values may be a bit cryptic on
>> their own, so might need to further process the file to make it a bit
>> more human readable.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:38 PM Marvin Kim 
>wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if there’s a way to save sorted score as a txt or an
>sco file.
>>> 
>>> The point is that I want to see all the pfield values. Especially
>the one I have score shortcut on as numbered values.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
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I seem to remember, and now John ffitch has confirmed, that there used to be a .txt output in a much more readable/friendly format.  I was surprised in class this week, when we used the command line flags from the manual, as Steven recommended, and got a file that was almost impossible to decipher and that did not, in a quick, intuitive, readable, and useful way, show us the ramped and carried p-fields (from note to note).  We should not need an extra program or utility for this.  The precision of the saved and sorted score was awesome, just not particularly useful, obvious or informative.  Maybe someday Csound can offer both output options?

-dB

PS.  There are many wonderful examples, that I share with students, of .csd files and web apps and C code that generate score files or translate MIDI files to note list files.  We love and appreciate and use them.  It just  seems to me that Csound itself should generate a sorted score that still reads like a traditional score.

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:36 AM, John ff  wrote:
> 
> The format of score.srt was changed to fix a bug on accuracy.  It would be possible to give an option to have iaccate numbers or it is "easy" to write utility to decide.  Given the pace in the release of 6.13 I think the second is a more satisfactory solution.
> 
> ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2019, 01:27, at 01:27, "Dr. Richard Boulanger"  wrote:
>> Steve, John, Victor,
>> 
>> We really need these values in a much clearer format!  It's cool that
>> we have them, but what we are trying to see in my classes is the random
>> or interpolated ramp values that we are often generating in the toots,
>> etc.  
>> 
>> Could there be a much simpler (and student and dr.b. readable) output
>> format of the sorted score?  Maybe a new command-line flag.  "Simple
>> Sorted Score"????  Hope so.
>> 
>> -dB
>> 
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> Professor
>> Electronic Production and Design
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's this following command line flag (from the manual):
>>> 
>>> "
>>> -t0, --keep-sorted-score
>>> 
>>> Prevents Csound from deleting the sorted score file, score.srt, upon
>> exit.
>>> "
>>> 
>>> The generated format is using %a (hexfloat) for formatting of p2,
>>> newp2, p3, and newp3 values. Those values may be a bit cryptic on
>>> their own, so might need to further process the file to make it a bit
>>> more human readable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:38 PM Marvin Kim 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I was wondering if there’s a way to save sorted score as a txt or an
>> sco file.
>>>> 
>>>> The point is that I want to see all the pfield values. Especially
>> the one I have score shortcut on as numbered values.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you!
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