when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the 
duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance 
survives, for instance

instr Bla
  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
endin
schedule("Bla",0,-1)
schedule("Bla",0,-1)

is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?

thanks -
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As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that 
it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the 
next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument 
number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't 
know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can 
always give a very long duration.

eduardo

On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the 
> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance 
> survives, for instance
>
> instr Bla
>  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
> endin
> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>
> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
>
> thanks -
>     joachim
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thanks to you both.  you are right; actually the p3=-1 feature is meant 
to deal with tied notes, so should be used with caution in other cases.

i think we should mention this in the manual (if not already there) but 
i cannot find the section about tied notes.  anyone?

	joachim



On 15/02/19 12:34, Eduardo Moguillansky wrote:
> As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that
> it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the
> next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument
> number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't
> know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can
> always give a very long duration.
>
> eduardo
>
> On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
>> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the
>> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance
>> survives, for instance
>>
>> instr Bla
>>  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
>> endin
>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>>
>> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
>>
>> thanks -
>>     joachim
>>
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Btw, it’s discussed in 5.3.5 in the Book, for what’s worth.
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> On 15 Feb 2019, at 11:56, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> thanks to you both.  you are right; actually the p3=-1 feature is meant to deal with tied notes, so should be used with caution in other cases.
> 
> i think we should mention this in the manual (if not already there) but i cannot find the section about tied notes.  anyone?
> 
> 	joachim
> 
> 
> 
> On 15/02/19 12:34, Eduardo Moguillansky wrote:
>> As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that
>> it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the
>> next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument
>> number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't
>> know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can
>> always give a very long duration.
>> 
>> eduardo
>> 
>> On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
>>> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the
>>> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance
>>> survives, for instance
>>> 
>>> instr Bla
>>> out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
>>> endin
>>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>>> 
>>> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
>>> 
>>> thanks -
>>>    joachim
>>> 
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The manual seems to point multiple places to:

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM joachim heintz  wrote:
>
> thanks to you both.  you are right; actually the p3=-1 feature is meant
> to deal with tied notes, so should be used with caution in other cases.
>
> i think we should mention this in the manual (if not already there) but
> i cannot find the section about tied notes.  anyone?
>
>         joachim
>
>
>
> On 15/02/19 12:34, Eduardo Moguillansky wrote:
> > As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that
> > it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the
> > next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument
> > number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't
> > know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can
> > always give a very long duration.
> >
> > eduardo
> >
> > On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
> >> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the
> >> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance
> >> survives, for instance
> >>
> >> instr Bla
> >>  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
> >> endin
> >> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
> >> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
> >>
> >> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
> >>
> >> thanks -
> >>     joachim
> >>
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(Sorry, hit send accidentally)

points places to:

https://csound.com/docs/manual/i.html

I wrote an article ages ago in the Csound Journal about tied notes:

http://csoundjournal.com/2005fall/tiedNotes.html

that could be reused for any manual updates.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:57 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> The manual seems to point multiple places to:
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM joachim heintz  wrote:
> >
> > thanks to you both.  you are right; actually the p3=-1 feature is meant
> > to deal with tied notes, so should be used with caution in other cases.
> >
> > i think we should mention this in the manual (if not already there) but
> > i cannot find the section about tied notes.  anyone?
> >
> >         joachim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15/02/19 12:34, Eduardo Moguillansky wrote:
> > > As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that
> > > it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the
> > > next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument
> > > number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't
> > > know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can
> > > always give a very long duration.
> > >
> > > eduardo
> > >
> > > On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
> > >> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the
> > >> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance
> > >> survives, for instance
> > >>
> > >> instr Bla
> > >>  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
> > >> endin
> > >> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
> > >> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
> > >>
> > >> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
> > >>
> > >> thanks -
> > >>     joachim
> > >>
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thanks.  it is described clearly in 
https://csound.com/docs/manual/i.html ; not necessary to add something. 
i simply used it in a wrong way.

	j



On 15/02/19 13:58, Steven Yi wrote:
> (Sorry, hit send accidentally)
>
> points places to:
>
> https://csound.com/docs/manual/i.html
>
> I wrote an article ages ago in the Csound Journal about tied notes:
>
> http://csoundjournal.com/2005fall/tiedNotes.html
>
> that could be reused for any manual updates.
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:57 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> The manual seems to point multiple places to:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:56 AM joachim heintz  wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks to you both.  you are right; actually the p3=-1 feature is meant
>>> to deal with tied notes, so should be used with caution in other cases.
>>>
>>> i think we should mention this in the manual (if not already there) but
>>> i cannot find the section about tied notes.  anyone?
>>>
>>>         joachim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/02/19 12:34, Eduardo Moguillansky wrote:
>>>> As I understand it, the -1 duration means a "tied" note. The fact that
>>>> it lasts indefinitely is a consequence of this (it should last until the
>>>> next note of the same instrument). You can use fractional instrument
>>>> number to differentiate the instances and they will coexist. I don't
>>>> know a way of achieving the same with named instrs. Of course you can
>>>> always give a very long duration.
>>>>
>>>> eduardo
>>>>
>>>> On 15.02.19 10:57, joachim heintz wrote:
>>>>> when i want to run more than one instance of an instrument with the
>>>>> duration -1 (in user's intention: forever), only the last instance
>>>>> survives, for instance
>>>>>
>>>>> instr Bla
>>>>>  out poscil:a(.2,mtof(random:i(60,70)))
>>>>> endin
>>>>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>>>>> schedule("Bla",0,-1)
>>>>>
>>>>> is this expected and anywhere documented?  or is it a bug?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks -
>>>>>     joachim
>>>>>
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