ok -- if there is a strong case for not wanting to break old things -- BUT with rand it will just be a different algorthm -- still be "random"-- so if anything things just might sound "different" and if you have specific sound you want you have ability to revert back to old.. the optional flag will only be used to revert back to old so for most people/ orcs it will be not noticable change --- rcb wrote: You would break a ton of stuff to require that the old stuff needs to have a new parameter set. If you like using the same name, then the new version should require the extra parameter.