Josep M Comajuncosas wrote: >>> I personally think that Xenaquis was more succesful applying stochastic procedures to higher level composition/orchestration than to pure sound synthesis. One cannon forget the spectra. <<< I sometime (only) think the same thing. Although spectra cannot be forgotten, there are lots of other representations ( view, analysis (=?)) of the sound. Spectrum is relatively close to our way of hearing and it is now used widely. But Fourier analysis is only the Fourier's vision of the signal world. There can be plenty other useful representations. These analysis are not obliged to be 100% scientific (natural?) in order to be usable by composers (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT). They simply need one way of analysis of the outside world in order to use it. In the last or the previous Computer Music Journal, there is an article about the representation of sounds that has given me lots of ideas about "again" an other synthesis controller. Is synthesis a controller because the sound is still power at the end? I am not sure. Xenakis has used the Gendy to create sounds from a relatively new view of the sound for his time. This is why we sometime prefer sounds from Fourrier's idea tools. That's a bit similar to the atonal and tonal music. Sorry for the length and I give a Mac Donald's milkshake to the ones who have understood!!!! I'm not very clear. Olivier Pasquet. -------------------- Olivier PASQUET -- APU -- Music Faculty OP101@mercury.anglia.ac.uk www.sinclair.anglia.ac.uk/~op101.student.cambridge.anglia --------------------