I tried the same thing with butterlp opcode last week and it appeared to have the same problem. --Jonathan >>> 02/09 12:28 AM >>> Message written at 8 Feb 1999 21:52:02 +0000 --- Copy of mail to jdrexler@support.ucla.edu --- Are you really asking that tonex have a 'skip initialisation' option? I implemented that for biquad the other night. Any others we have missed? ==John ffitch !   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26234; 9 Feb 99 15:55 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AFVh-0007Ll-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:55:37 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA03234); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:39 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:21 GMT Received: from caracal.noc.ucla.edu [169.232.10.11] by hermes via ESMTP (PAA12437); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:19 GMT Received: from smtp ([164.67.88.7]) by caracal.noc.ucla.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA25372 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from UCLA-Message_Server by smtp with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Feb 1999 07:15:57 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 07:27:12 -0800 From: Jonathan Drexler To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk, csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Filter clicks: further comment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I tried the same thing with butterlp opcode last week and it appeared to have the same problem. --Jonathan >>> 02/09 12:28 AM >>> Message written at 8 Feb 1999 21:52:02 +0000 --- Copy of mail to jdrexler@support.ucla.edu --- Are you really asking that tonex have a 'skip initialisation' option? I implemented that for biquad the other night. Any others we have missed? ==John ffitch !   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26276; 9 Feb 99 16:05 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AFfA-0007N7-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:05:24 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA04231); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:33:58 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:33:44 GMT Received: from neptune.lyrick.com [38.227.100.46] by hermes via ESMTP (PAA12274); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:33:41 GMT Received: by neptune.lyrick.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1MN9C2KW>; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:31:12 -0600 Message-ID: <283AABB8FD0DD21187C200A0C995F5DE0ECE40@neptune.lyrick.com> From: David Boothe To: 'Sergey Batov' , csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: RE: WaveIn in DirectCsound Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:31:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sergey- Maybe I'm missing your point, but have you tried the printk or printks opcodes? print runs at i-rate, printk and printks at k-rate. To print value of 'k_in' on every k-rate cycle use: printk 1, k_in Or to print 'k_in' value every 'itime' seconds: printks "k_in = %f ", itime, k_in, 0, 0, 0 You can format the 'k_in' value with C-style printf() syntax, except it doesn't like "\n" for some reason. (Anybody know why that is?) Hope this helps. -David. Sergey wrote: > If to add "midi in" flag -+K to this command line I can get > renewed meanings of k_in but only pressing keys on midi keaboard. > It's understood too. > > Now it seems the entailment of my idea is near. > I'd like to control k_in (to print, at least) every 't' seconds or, > say, with kr rate. >   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26680; 9 Feb 99 18:38 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AI2x-0004XQ-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:38:07 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA18004); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:31:50 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:31:37 GMT Received: from gudrun.passagen.se [195.163.107.4] by hermes via ESMTP (SAA04407); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:31:36 GMT Received: from dumburk (dialup242-4-58.swipnet.se [130.244.242.250]) by gudrun.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07434 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:31:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C07F46.3E95@hem.passagen.se> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:32:38 +0100 From: rasmus ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list Subject: \\n, \\t etc in printks strings (Re: WaveIn in DirectCsound) References: <283AABB8FD0DD21187C200A0C995F5DE0ECE40@neptune.lyrick.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk David Boothe wrote: > > You can format the 'k_in' value with C-style printf() syntax, except it > doesn't like "\n" for some reason. (Anybody know why that is?) On the PC, the new line and tab characters must be preceded by two backslashes, not one. - eg, \\t, \\n. (not sure about other systems) re   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26755; 9 Feb 99 19:07 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AIUw-0004Yi-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:07:02 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA14848); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:02:12 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:02:00 GMT Received: from gudrun.passagen.se [195.163.107.4] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA04665); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:01:59 GMT Received: from dumburk (dialup180-3-58.swipnet.se [130.244.180.186]) by gudrun.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14159 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:01:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C08660.6D5A@hem.passagen.se> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:02:56 +0100 From: rasmus ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list Subject: Re: Optimizing tips? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anders Andersson wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can give me some tips about how to optimize instruments! Use lower k-rate. If you need higher resolution for better sound quality, *still* try to use lower k-rate and upsample to a-rate with interp. I know there are people on the list who will jump to any opportunity of setting kr=sr, and if that's what someone needs to be happy, he could consider fiddling with k-variable optimisation - else the time will be better spent just rendering the thing. > Take this very simple example: /.../ > Would it be faster to insert a k-rate variable There is very little that you can do at k-rate which makes a big difference in performance. The time-consuming work for Csound is (i) inside maths-intensive a-rate opcodes (filters, FFT-based), and (ii) the k-rate instrument/variable/everything management. There is often not much you can do about the a-rate stuff, since the signal after all has to be generated somewhere, but you can do something about (ii). Eg set kr=50 through 200, which should be plenty for most cases. cheers, re   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26818; 9 Feb 99 19:38 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AIzY-0007eX-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:38:40 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA00522); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:29:11 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:28:58 GMT Received: from root@iguacu.cce.ufpr.br [200.17.210.65] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA15948); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:28:35 GMT Received: from araguaia.cce.ufpr.br (chr-lyra@araguaia.cce.ufpr.br [200.17.210.90]) by iguacu.cce.ufpr.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04036 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:26:11 -0200 (EDT) Received: by araguaia.cce.ufpr.br id QAA09021; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:24:23 -0300 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:24:23 -0300 (GRNLNDST) From: Christian Lyra To: Csound list Subject: Csound e-zine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry... I just lost the mail... where's the csound e-zine? Thanks, Christian Lyra   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27045; 9 Feb 99 21:58 GMT Received: from [139.130.53.38] (helo=toad.ilogic.com.au ident=postfix) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ALAl-0004hU-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:58:24 +0000 Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev-list@ilogic.com.au Received: by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix, from userid 91) id B90C43846; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:07 +1100 (EST) Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Received: from ax-nicb.axnet.it (ax-nicb.axnet.it [194.184.60.149]) by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP for id 6FCE63845; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:57:40 +1100 (EST) Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02203; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:56:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:56:02 +0100 (ROM ) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , Csound mailing list , Linux Audio Development Mailing list Subject: [CUD] [ANNOUNCE] unofficial linux csound 3.51.1.0b available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Precedence: bulk The unofficial 3.51.1.0b distribution of linux csound is available from the AIMI server ftp://musart.dist.unige.it/pub/CSOUND/csound-3.51.1.0b-*.tar.gz in binary form (dynamically linked), binary form w/o X11 support (dynamically linked) and source form. *THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTION* The official distribution can be found at ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/newest. The official 3.511 sources are maintained by J.P.Fitch (jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk). This distribution features a merged port of the official 3.511 sources, a diskin fix, and some re-ordering of the entry.c file (which condemned Maldonado's iwrap opcode, clashing with 'iwrap'-named variables - this opcode was already replaced in the canonical sources with the 'wrap' opcode). Enjoy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures.   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27051; 9 Feb 99 21:59 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ALBO-0007lV-00; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:59:02 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (VAA00447); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:57:48 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:57:35 GMT Received: from nicb@ax-nicb.axnet.it [194.184.60.149] by hermes via ESMTP (VAA16383); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:57:25 GMT Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02203; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:56:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:56:02 +0100 (ROM ) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , Csound mailing list , Linux Audio Development Mailing list Subject: [ANNOUNCE] unofficial linux csound 3.51.1.0b available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The unofficial 3.51.1.0b distribution of linux csound is available from the AIMI server ftp://musart.dist.unige.it/pub/CSOUND/csound-3.51.1.0b-*.tar.gz in binary form (dynamically linked), binary form w/o X11 support (dynamically linked) and source form. *THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTION* The official distribution can be found at ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/newest. The official 3.511 sources are maintained by J.P.Fitch (jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk). This distribution features a merged port of the official 3.511 sources, a diskin fix, and some re-ordering of the entry.c file (which condemned Maldonado's iwrap opcode, clashing with 'iwrap'-named variables - this opcode was already replaced in the canonical sources with the 'wrap' opcode). Enjoy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures.   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27298; 10 Feb 99 0:32 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ANZd-00008E-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:32:13 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA13817); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:37 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:22 GMT Received: from angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112] by hermes via SMTP (XAA06173); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:21 GMT Received: (qmail 7156 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 00:48:20 +0100 Received: from du79-91.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.91.79) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 00:48:20 +0100 From: Anders Andersson Reply-To: pipe@algonet.se To: CSound list Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:44:54 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Nature Subject: Linux - realtime output MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hajo! I wonder how to use realtime-output under Linux? I haven't found anything about it in the dox, and i don't know much about Linux (though I do know a whole lot about computers in general..) It would be nice not having to use "-o /dev/dsp", becaus what I have understand, you can't change the playback-rate of this device? .--- -- - - | Anders "Pipe/Nature" Andersson, pipe@algonet.se | Proud member of the Amiga community, Nature and Mensa Sweden. :   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27302; 10 Feb 99 0:32 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ANZd-00008D-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:32:13 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA03041); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:57 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:34 GMT Received: from angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112] by hermes via SMTP (XAA06838); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:33 GMT Received: (qmail 7777 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 00:48:32 +0100 Received: from du79-91.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.91.79) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 00:48:32 +0100 From: Anders Andersson Reply-To: pipe@algonet.se To: CSound list Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Nature Subject: Cecilia vs CSound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello! Iv'e recently started to try out CSound for Linux, and thus stumbled upon Cecilia. My first thought was "Ueck! Windows and buttons!". :) So my question is: What do I as a coder gain by using Cecilia instead of coding orc's and scores from scratch? To me, it was just confusing, but that's probably because i'm pretty used to coding from scratch. .--- -- - - | Anders "Pipe/Nature" Andersson, pipe@algonet.se | Proud member of the Amiga community, Nature and Mensa Sweden. :   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27309; 10 Feb 99 0:32 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ANZd-00008F-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:32:13 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA08136); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:58 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:36 GMT Received: from angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112] by hermes via SMTP (XAA11532); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:48:35 GMT Received: (qmail 7890 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 00:48:34 +0100 Received: from du79-91.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.91.79) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 00:48:34 +0100 From: Anders Andersson Reply-To: pipe@algonet.se To: CSound list Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:42:33 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Nature Subject: PWM - Old thread MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks! For a few days ago i stumbled upon this tip.. If you want to have a sweeping band-limited pulse-width modulation, then it's just to take 2 buzz's with different pitch, instead of using deltapi.. (And then subtract and integrate, as Josep M Comajuncosa suggested) This simple thing might be of interest to someone..? .--- -- - - | Anders "Pipe/Nature" Andersson, pipe@algonet.se | Proud member of the Amiga community, Nature and Mensa Sweden. :   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27806; 10 Feb 99 7:16 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ATsW-0000RH-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:16:08 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA13124); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:14:44 GMT Received: from sunny.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:58 GMT Received: from root@tempest.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.120] by sunny via ESMTP (HAA19957); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:54 GMT Received: from localhost (kgallagh@localhost) by tempest.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14571 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:57:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:57:33 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Gallagher X-Sender: kgallagh@tempest.ocis.temple.edu To: Csound Discussion List Subject: OPEN callback Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm using DirectSound 2.6 on a Pentium II 300Mhz, with my Roland GR30 as a MIDI device. When I run my scripts, sometimes Csound won't work. It's sort of sporadic as to when it will work and when it will not, but when it fails, one of two things happens: 1) I get as far as "WARNING: All console text messages are disabled!" and then it just freezes until I close the window or 2) After the warning about text messages, it says "Error opening MIDI IN port: MMSYSTEM020 The driver did not generate a valid OPEN callback." in the window and also in an Alert window. This happened in previous versions of DirectSound, but I usually just closed the window and started over. But now it fails a dozen times in a row, and the only way to fix it is to open up something else and come back to Csound or in some extreme cases to restart my computer. I'm not sure, but I think there is something different about DirectSound 2.6 that doesn't jive with my setup. I've actually been preparing some MIDI/Csound electronic compositions for a school recital in a few weeks, and the stability issue worries me a little (although I still am confident that I can do the recital with it.) So does anybody else know what I can do to keep this "driver did not generate a valid OPEN callback" business from happening so much? Is this a bug? I also would like to mention that aside from this one problem, the version is really great. Thanks. Kevin Gallager, kgallagh@astro.temple.edu Web - http://astro.temple.edu/~kgallagh   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27824; 10 Feb 99 7:16 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ATtB-0000RL-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:16:50 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA15778); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:14:48 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:14:01 GMT Received: from falcon.glas.apc.org [193.124.5.54] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA12692); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:59 GMT Received: from mail.glas.apc.org([193.124.5.37]) (1766 bytes) by falcon.glas.apc.org via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:inet_zone_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:08:45 +0300 (WSU) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #2 built 1998-Nov-27) Received: from default(src addr [195.218.251.63]) (1387 bytes) by mail.glas.apc.org via sendmail with P\:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:08:19 +0300 (WSU) (Smail-3.2.0.96 1997-Jun-2 #11 built DST-Aug-25) Message-Id: From: Sergey Batov To: rasmus ekman Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: Re: \\n, \\t etc in printks strings (Re: WaveIn in DirectCsound) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:26:07 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id HAA12692 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I wrote: printks "k_in=3D%6.2f\\n", 0.5, k_in, 0,0,0 and got: orchname: wavein.orc scorename: wavein.sco sorting score ... ... done orch compiler: ERROR in orc: char '\' after '\' in line 8! press to terminate program... Regards, Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru ---------- > =CE=F2: rasmus ekman > =CA=EE=EC=F3: Csound list > =D2=E5=EC=E0: \\n, \\t etc in printks strings (Re: WaveIn in DirectCsou= nd) > =C4=E0=F2=E0: 9 =F4=E5=E2=F0=E0=EB=FF 1999 =E3. 21:32 >=20 > David Boothe wrote: > >=20 > > You can format the 'k_in' value with C-style printf() syntax, except it > > doesn't like "\n" for some reason. (Anybody know why that is?) >=20 > On the PC, the new line and tab characters must be preceded by > two backslashes, not one. - eg, \\t, \\n. > (not sure about other systems) >=20 > re   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27832; 10 Feb 99 7:17 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ATtW-0000RP-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:17:10 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA17537); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:14:29 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:52 GMT Received: from root@kubrick.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.243.232] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA16894); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:51 GMT Received: from eisner.nwe.ufl.edu (eisner.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.243.230]) by nwe.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/zhadum) with ESMTP id UAA08919 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:05:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:05:48 -0500 (EST) From: Shamus McConney To: Csound mailing list Subject: csound 3.5 for Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there a Mac perf for the 3.5 version of csound out yet? (if so where?) Thanks, Shamus McConney mcconney@nwe.ufl.edu http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/ http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/Pd+.html   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27846; 10 Feb 99 7:18 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ATuJ-0005AY-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:17:59 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA12748); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:14:24 GMT Received: from sunny.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:49 GMT Received: from college.antioch-college.edu [192.131.123.11] by sunny via ESMTP (HAA19944); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:13:48 GMT Received: (from jsteiner@localhost) by antioch-college.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00659; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:38:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:38:31 -0500 (EST) From: Josh Steiner To: Csound Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] unofficial linux csound 3.51.1.0b available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone point me to information about why there is this code fork and what is diferent about them? If this is a combustable topic info could be sent to me privately. Also, what is up with the list archive at: http://www.maths.ex.ac.uk/~james/csound_list/ It is blank when I visit it. Are there other list archives? Thanks a lot! --- Joshua W. H. Steiner - joschi@eds.org - http://eds.org/~joschi "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentyful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27979; 10 Feb 99 7:21 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10ATy8-0005Az-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:21:56 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA01651); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:19:28 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:19:07 GMT Received: from howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA08661); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:19:05 GMT Received: from default (dial49.werewolf.net [12.23.153.49]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA10756 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:02:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01be548a$063f8a00$3199170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Csound list Subject: Re: Csound e-zine Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:12:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://www.werewolf.net/~hljmm/Ezine/ Hans Mikelson   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28033; 10 Feb 99 7:28 GMT Received: from [128.240.226.12] (helo=mailout2.mailbase.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AU46-0005Bc-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:28:06 +0000 Received: from naga.mailbase.ac.uk (naga.mailbase.ac.uk [128.240.226.3]) by mailout2.mailbase.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12659; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:27:54 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by naga.mailbase.ac.uk (8.8.x/Mailbase) id HAA13730; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:27:43 GMT Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by naga.mailbase.ac.uk (8.8.x/Mailbase) with ESMTP id HAA13625; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:27:17 GMT Received: from Dreammac@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id NBJEa20555; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:36:32 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <3145c9d3.36c0f0b0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:36:32 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 Subject: Classical Music From: Dreammac@aol.com To: frichard@ascap.com Cc: shpaulus@ibm.net, JLoFrumento@ascap.com, PPerry@ascap.com, RSobel@ascap.com, Michael.Stack@ascap-uk.ascap.sprint.com, MBergman@ascap.com, Areles@aol.com, DeonPrice@aol.com, mnortham@cinematrax.com, rmaprez@rmaweb.org, deussen@ix.netcom.com, Dreammac@aol.com, gompper@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, RobFrank@aol.com, CelliOO5@aol.com, tommyboy@mail.utexas.edu, BSchrader@compuserve.com, STRANGE@sjsuvm1.sjsu.edu, sggibb@csupomona.edu, weidenaa@email.njin.net, lefko@ucla.edu, FLIGHT007@aol.com, canary burton , acoustic-ecology@sfu.ca, algo-comp@serial.music.uiowa.edu, alumni@ccrma.stanford.edu, brit-comp-music@mailbase.ac.uk, calendar@emf.org, csound@noether.ex.AC.UK, compfrm@maroon.tc.umn.edu, composers-desktop-project@mailbase.ac.uk, distribution-2@ccrma.stanford.edu, emusic-l@american.edu, euromusicology@mailbase.ac.uk, forum@ircam.fr, icma@umich.edu, icmlelioc@risc.idg.fi.cnr.it, liveart@mailbase.ac.uk, msimoni@umich.edu, music@ucsd.edu, music@watson.ibm.com, musica-l@kit.bdtf.hu, music-research@comlab.oxford.ac.ukmusic-researchoxford.prg.musicwebmailbase.ac.uk, notmus-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, oz-computer-music@latrobe.edu.au, post-classical@cs.uwp.edu, raw@rhizome.com, seamus-l@luigi.music.lsu.edu, scimembers-owner@serial.music.uiowa.edu, scimembers@raven.dartmouth.edu, smallmusic@xcf.berkeley.edu, SOUND@acm.org, synth-l@american.edu, wfae@sfu.ca, owner-scimembers@raven.dartmouth.edu, sdb@luigi.music.lsu.edu, jkenned@calstatela.edu, sci@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, sci@uiowa.edu X-List: composers-desktop-project@mailbase.ac.uk X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave composers-desktop-project' to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk X-List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: Dreammac@aol.com Sender: composers-desktop-project-request@mailbase.ac.uk Errors-To: composers-desktop-project-request@mailbase.ac.uk Precedence: list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Fran Richard: Thank you for your kind birthday wishes and celebratory aspirations. They are most appreciated and welcome. Classical music and its practitioners are indeed in need of the latter as well as some practical equanimical consideration at home in terms of economic recompense. The fact of the matter is that American classical composers and their music are all but completely out of the loop as far as are the barest consideration for broadcast or live performance money. Our stature in the performance royalty feeding chain of the various genres of music who are garnering income from broadcast or live performance consists of the humiliating condition of begging for alms like a street mendicant. An occasional donation to the blind man's cup of a fastly diminishing human charity. That's no way to treat a proverbial enemy--- much less a friend. This analysis is not in any way directed at you but constitutes a melancholy assessment of the pitiful economic and cultural standing that our beloved music has descended to in our republic. Indeed, every informed classical composer is very much aware of your long standing valiant attempts to maintain the present flow of donations to the lowly classical composer's cup, as well as add to same whenever possible. Of course from the economic standpoint this has been more and more an historically thankless task. I do believe that it is now time for our domestic societies, with ASCAP in the lead to focus on implementing to what amounts to a minimum gesture of economic reform and thus meaningful financial support for the classical writer. This would be in the form of a guaranteed minimum percentage of the gross income from live performance. For example, let me demonstrate a couple of the most interesting and important precedents for this proposal. SACEM currently collects and distributes 8.9% of the gross income from a live performance to the music being performed on that venue. They do this for all genres of music across the board. PRS likewise collects and distributes 3% of the gross revenue. I hearby propose that ASCAP at the very least adopt this 3% minimum as a standard for live performance for its classical community. The consequences would be that a classical composer would then receive somewhere in the neighborhood of $1500 for a featured work by the New York Philharmonic, (according to the piece's length), for one evening's performance. The usual three or four performances would thusly earn him $6,000 for the week. Compare this to the current domestic absurdity of $100 to $400 for four performances over the same time period. This latter payment standard only encourages an ivory-tower, academic, dilettante, culture which has no professional viability to be by default, the last bastion of the classical heritage. This music of the elite dilettante is the very reason that the audience for contemporary music has almost zero tolerance for its music. For they are unable to produce a vital, living and breathing classical music that resonates within the hearts of a vital, living and breathing classical audience who are culturally conservative by nature. If there is not even the most meager of performance funds for the classical composer to survive on, in other words in which to pursue writing as a profession----------than quite frankly, there is no profession. That is why almost all the potential classical talent have abandoned same and had to pursue by default the only realistic alternatives for having a viable professional career in music composition. And those areas are of course songwriting, underscoring and musical theater. And to a lesser degree "jingle" music which however suffers many of the same problems of classical music, only less so. It doesn't take a visionary to comprehend that if there is a potential for earning a performance royalty of $6000 in one week, there is also a chance for a viable professional career in its own right and the chance to produce a dynamic between creator and audience that has not existed for over fifty years in this country-------- not since the era of Koussevitsky, Bernstein, Harris, Copland, Barber and Gershwin. Let me point out a relevant fact. In the top one hundred earners at SACEM, 14 of them are classical composers, the second highest contingent behind the songwriters. Ironically the film composers placed last with 12 practitioners. I daresay that in America today we wouldn't have one living classical composer in the top 2,000 highest earners. In the down and dirty "bottom line" culture of Darwinian economics that is the prevalent model for contemporary America today, it is mandatory that we seed and nourish this rich legacy of classical musical culture with deserved performance money for composers. And not by the meager handouts to the cups of classical composers and their organizations which only contribute to the ubiquitous moribundity and disgrace of a "kept" music in all its odoriferous state of decay. Let us seriously endeavor to reestablish this once noble profession not by the maintenance of same on life support systems by alms donations, but by the instituting of a minimum live performance royalty that offers a decent honorable compensation and a viable prospect for the profession of creating this highly expressive and nourishing music with dignity Most sincerely, la paix, David MacMurray   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28108; 10 Feb 99 7:39 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AUFS-0005CX-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:39:50 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA02572); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:38:23 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:38:11 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA12334); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:38:09 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it (ppp01-12.dial-access.stm.it [195.62.37.12]) by agora.stm.it (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05559 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:38:06 +0100 (ITA) Message-ID: <36C136B1.EBFE4E6C@agora.stm.it> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:35:13 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list Subject: Re: Optimizing tips? References: <36C08660.6D5A@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I noticed that, for amplitude envelopes or other amplitude-related things, it is better to use a-rate opcodes or to upsamp the k-rate signals before sending them to the audio modules. Otherwise a certain degree of audible distorsion is always present when kr != sr (more distorsion for fast transients). Also it is indispensable to use a kr quite lower than sr when using csound in realtime (I use 1/100 ratio for realtime task) to increase processing speed. -- Gabriel Maldonado http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm rasmus ekman wrote: > Use lower k-rate. > If you need higher resolution for better sound quality, *still* > try to use lower k-rate and upsample to a-rate with interp. > > I know there are people on the list who will jump to any opportunity > of setting kr=sr, and if that's what someone needs to be happy, he > could consider fiddling with k-variable optimisation - else the time > will be better spent just rendering the thing. > There is very little that you can do at k-rate which makes a big > difference in performance. The time-consuming work for Csound is > (i) inside maths-intensive a-rate opcodes (filters, FFT-based), and > (ii) the k-rate instrument/variable/everything management. > There is often not much you can do about the a-rate stuff, since > the signal after all has to be generated somewhere, but you can do > something about (ii). Eg set kr=50 through 200, which should be > plenty for most cases.   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28114; 10 Feb 99 7:39 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AUFY-0000Tq-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:39:56 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA06097); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:39:04 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:38:53 GMT Received: from root@mail.pclink.com [204.72.134.12] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA07531); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:38:51 GMT Received: from robertsc (pm5-32 [206.11.2.40]) by pclink.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA20361 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:38:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990210014101.007a63d0@pclink.com> X-Sender: schrepel@pclink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:41:01 -0600 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: Robert Schrepel Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] unofficial linux csound 3.51.1.0b available In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/Csound_List_Archive It's up to date, but it's not searchable. It appears that a gzipped text file of the day's traffic is dumped to the directory each day. It goes back two years. I haven't seen a searchable, HTML-based archive in quite a while. At 06:38 PM 2/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >Also, what is up with the list archive at: > >http://www.maths.ex.ac.uk/~james/csound_list/ > >It is blank when I visit it. Are there other list archives?   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28203; 10 Feb 99 7:54 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AUTq-0005DJ-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:54:42 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA07635); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:49:11 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:48:59 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA03119); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:48:56 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it (ppp01-12.dial-access.stm.it [195.62.37.12]) by agora.stm.it (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07878; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:48:48 +0100 (ITA) Message-ID: <36C13933.18D6F36B@agora.stm.it> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:45:55 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Gallagher CC: Csound Discussion List Subject: Re: OPEN callback References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I suppose that the message is generated by the midi port driver. I'm using currently version 2.6 of DirectCsound, but I never had that problem. Are you sure that in the 2.1 version these errors were less frequent? If you aren't, maybe this is a problem of computer configuration or midi driver fault. Try to install an updated version of midi drivers for your card. P.S. Are you using MIDI LOOPBACK? If you aren't, try to install it and to pipe the virtual midi port to csound and your card midi port, maybe this will help. Cheers Gabriel Kevin Gallagher wrote: > > I'm using DirectSound 2.6 on a Pentium II 300Mhz, with my Roland GR30 as a > MIDI device. When I run my scripts, sometimes Csound won't work. It's > sort of sporadic as to when it will work and when it will not, but when it > fails, one of two things happens: > > 1) I get as far as "WARNING: All console text messages are disabled!" > and then it just freezes until I close the window > > or > > 2) After the warning about text messages, it says "Error opening MIDI IN > port: MMSYSTEM020 The driver did not generate a valid OPEN callback." in > the window and also in an Alert window. > > This happened in previous versions of DirectSound, but I usually just > closed the window and started over. But now it fails a dozen times in a > row, and the only way to fix it is to open up something else and come back > to Csound or in some extreme cases to restart my computer. I'm not sure, > but I think there is something different about DirectSound 2.6 that > doesn't jive with my setup. > > I've actually been preparing some MIDI/Csound electronic compositions for > a school recital in a few weeks, and the stability issue worries me a > little (although I still am confident that I can do the recital with it.) > So does anybody else know what I can do to keep this "driver did not > generate a valid OPEN callback" business from happening so much? Is this > a bug? I also would like to mention that aside from this one problem, the > version is really great. Thanks. > > Kevin Gallager, kgallagh@astro.temple.edu > Web - http://astro.temple.edu/~kgallagh -- Gabriel Maldonado http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28468; 10 Feb 99 9:03 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AVYl-0000aU-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:03:51 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA08772); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:22 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:08 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA13155); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:08 GMT Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk id 10AVTJ-0000Zp-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 8:58:12 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Subject: Opcode names To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message written at 10 Feb 1999 07:32:55 +0000 Following e-mail exchanges with Nicola and the "Csund-Unix development" group I though I would seek advice. There are a small(ish) number of opcodes which start with i, k or a, and some with a ga . The list is "instr" "init" "ihold" "int" "i" "interp" "in" "ins" "inh" "ino" "igoto" "icgoto" "itablew" "itablegpw" "itablemix" "itablecopy" "itimek" "itimes" "instimek" "instimes" "ilimit" "ion" "ioff" "iondur" "iondur2" "ioutc" "ioutc14" "ioutat" "ioutpc" "ioutpat" "imidic14" "imidic21" "ictrl7" "ictrl14" "ictrl21" "initc7" "initc14" "initc21" "islider8" "islider16" "islider32" "islider64" "is16b14" "is32b14" "kgoto" "kcgoto" "koutc" "koutc14" "koutpb" "koutat" "koutpc" "koutpat" "abs" "ampdb" "ampmidi" "aftouch" "adsyn" "atone" "areson" "alpass" "atonek" "aresonk" "agogobel" "adsr" "gauss" "gain" There are some advantages in renaming some or all of these, but there are longstanding names here. Does anyone have comments, actual renaming suggestions, or other help to offer? ==John ff   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28468; 10 Feb 99 9:03 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AVYl-0000aU-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:03:51 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA08772); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:22 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:08 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA13155); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:08 GMT Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk id 10AVTJ-0000Zp-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 8:58:12 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Subject: Opcode names To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message written at 10 Feb 1999 07:32:55 +0000 Following e-mail exchanges with Nicola and the "Csund-Unix development" group I though I would seek advice. There are a small(ish) number of opcodes which start with i, k or a, and some with a ga . The list is "instr" "init" "ihold" "int" "i" "interp" "in" "ins" "inh" "ino" "igoto" "icgoto" "itablew" "itablegpw" "itablemix" "itablecopy" "itimek" "itimes" "instimek" "instimes" "ilimit" "ion" "ioff" "iondur" "iondur2" "ioutc" "ioutc14" "ioutat" "ioutpc" "ioutpat" "imidic14" "imidic21" "ictrl7" "ictrl14" "ictrl21" "initc7" "initc14" "initc21" "islider8" "islider16" "islider32" "islider64" "is16b14" "is32b14" "kgoto" "kcgoto" "koutc" "koutc14" "koutpb" "koutat" "koutpc" "koutpat" "abs" "ampdb" "ampmidi" "aftouch" "adsyn" "atone" "areson" "alpass" "atonek" "aresonk" "agogobel" "adsr" "gauss" "gain" There are some advantages in renaming some or all of these, but there are longstanding names here. Does anyone have comments, actual renaming suggestions, or other help to offer? ==John ff   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28537; 10 Feb 99 9:27 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AVw3-0005JU-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:27:55 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (JAA15433); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:52 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:38 GMT Received: from ella.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by hermes via SMTP (JAA05414); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:37 GMT Received: (qmail 4168459 invoked by uid 1964); 10 Feb 1999 01:17:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" To: Shamus McConney cc: Csound mailing list Subject: Re: csound 3.5 for Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/CsoundPPC3.51.sit.hqx or http://www.concentric.net/~Mingalls/software/csound/ -matt On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Shamus McConney wrote: > Is there a Mac perf for the 3.5 version of csound out yet? (if so where?) > > Thanks, > > Shamus McConney > > mcconney@nwe.ufl.edu > http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/ > http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/Pd+.html > > >   Received: from xenakis.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28731; 10 Feb 99 11:10 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: pipe@algonet.se CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Anders Andersson on Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:37:13 +0100) Subject: Re: Optimizing tips? BCC: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk References: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 11:10:54 GMT Sender: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. In fact Csoudn creates internal variabke so the transformations you suggest are how it works. There are some ways to improve performance, but they are all rather odd, like reusing variables in some circumstances. Us of -v can show what is really happening internally, but this output is not for teh faint hearted. ==John ff   Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28855; 10 Feb 99 11:59 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AYJ5-0000sh-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:59:51 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA04260); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:23:46 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:11:13 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA13910); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:11:03 GMT Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) id 10AXXj-0000mX-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:10:55 +0000 From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: pipe@algonet.se CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Anders Andersson on Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:37:13 +0100) Subject: Re: Optimizing tips? References: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 11:10:54 GMT Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In fact Csoudn creates internal variabke so the transformations you suggest are how it works. There are some ways to improve performance, but they are all rather odd, like reusing variables in some circumstances. Us of -v can show what is really happening internally, but this output is not for teh faint hearted. ==John ff   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28952; 10 Feb 99 12:31 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10AYo7-0005XP-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:31:55 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (MAA08923); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:09:05 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:08:50 GMT Received: from gudrun.passagen.se [195.163.107.4] by hermes via ESMTP (MAA12439); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:08:49 GMT Received: from dumburk (dialup241-4-44.swipnet.se [130.244.241.236]) by gudrun.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19279; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:08:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C176BB.20F2@hem.passagen.se> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:08:27 +0100 From: rasmus ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergey Batov CC: Csound list Subject: Re: \\n, \\t etc in printks strings (Re: WaveIn in DirectCsound) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sergey Batov wrote: > > I wrote: > printks "k_in=%6.2f\\n", 0.5, k_in, 0,0,0 > and got: > ERROR in orc: char '\' after '\' in line 8! Oops. Interesting. "It worked for me" the other week. And you're on Win/DOS? - I'll revise the hlp file notice again then. Thanks, re