I'm working data entry from midnight to 8:30 am (love the hours), and my coworkers listen to the radio all night every night. It's great! I just graduated with a degree in music, and yet I had stopped enjoying listening to music. I've never been a pop fan, but I'm finding it pretty stimulating. Because in just about every song currently on the charts, there is a healthy portion of either granular synthesis or (more likely) spectral manipulation. Either someone's vocal ornamentation is made to sound digital, or the vocals are made to sound like baby-voice, or there's granular synthesis over top of everything. The urban music crowd is eating it up, and I know how to do it! What makes "cutting-edge" (as they see it) computer techniques so popular in these styles? It used to be hip to be low-tech, to have the cheapest gear (808), or even just two guys taking turns making mouth percussion and rapping. Then again, it used to be hip to rap about social injustice and fighting the establishment, rather than owning lots of stuff. Supply and demand, I guess. On the other hand, there's a lot about regular, gimmickless audio production that I don't know. At any rate, I'm glad I have Csound to guide me. I'm moving to Romania soon, and I have a feeling my knowledge of these things will be rare there. Whether there'll be a demand for it, I don't know. I guess the only thing is to learn more and more and more. -Chuckk -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com